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Post by coachscdub on Apr 12, 2021 22:01:09 GMT -6
In talking with coaches on here and twitter and facebook i often come away with a tip or a new way of thinking of things. But instead of posting about all those good smaller tips i'm posting this to see if we might all share that one big piece of information or that one big takeaway we've gotten in our careers and post them here for others to see and learn from.
The one piece of advice i got was from a great man Lindsey Robbins (RIP) who told me "Regardless of whether a kid has been playing football his whole life, or has never even seen a football before, coach them fairly, coach them honestly, and tell them 'you guys who know everything right now are gonna dominate the first few weeks and take all the starting spots, but if you get lazy these new guys are gonna come for your jobs, and when that happens dont come crying to me because you got lazy'".
The point he was trying to make, and something i try and remind myself of is dont ever look at a kid who doesnt understand the game and write him off in favor of a kid who might know more. Because if you do that you never give those kids a chance to play, and your team can fall into complacency.
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Post by chi5hi on Apr 12, 2021 23:00:41 GMT -6
My contribution is...Don't chase extra points.
If you miss a PAT just keep playing and don't try for 2 after your next score.
There is a better than good chance that you will end up 2 points down instead of 1.
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Post by CS on Apr 13, 2021 4:54:07 GMT -6
Kids don’t step on the field wanting to do bad
What you can do depends on how good your assistants are
Relationships
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 5:32:54 GMT -6
Build relationships
Progression.
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 13, 2021 6:22:49 GMT -6
Work hard Monday through Thursday, then watch a good game on Friday night.
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Post by kcbazooka on Apr 13, 2021 6:56:01 GMT -6
KYPIYP
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Post by fantom on Apr 13, 2021 8:33:53 GMT -6
Don't get bored calling the same play (Or defense) if it's working.
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Post by stilltryin on Apr 13, 2021 11:24:20 GMT -6
"You have to love 'em ... and they have to know you love 'em.
"And once they know that, you can do anything with them."
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Post by macdiiddy on Apr 13, 2021 12:26:19 GMT -6
What ever you don’t coach you allow. If something is showing up on the field that you are not okay with it is because it is not properly coached or never addressed in the first place.
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Post by moose18 on Apr 13, 2021 12:40:11 GMT -6
It is for the kids. Period. And by "it" I mean everything. Leave your ego at the door and do everything humanly possible to give the kids an amazing experience
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Post by coachcb on Apr 13, 2021 12:41:27 GMT -6
"Be prepared to lose with 'winners' versus winning with 'losers'."
Coaching is so much more rewarding when you start measuring the kids by their work ethic and attitudes and not their innate athletic ability.
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Post by dblwngr on Apr 13, 2021 13:34:12 GMT -6
From the coach that gave me my first coaching gig 22 years ago
"You can learn from anyone (coaches) you're around, try to take something from everyone you work with. It may be something good or even something you know not to ever do but you can always learn something!"
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Post by chi5hi on Apr 13, 2021 14:10:26 GMT -6
In talking with coaches on here and twitter and facebook i often come away with a tip or a new way of thinking of things. But instead of posting about all those good smaller tips i'm posting this to see if we might all share that one big piece of information or that one big takeaway we've gotten in our careers and post them here for others to see and learn from. The one piece of advice i got was from a great man Lindsey Robbins (RIP) who told me "Regardless of whether a kid has been playing football his whole life, or has never even seen a football before, coach them fairly, coach them honestly, and tell them 'you guys who know everything right now are gonna dominate the first few weeks and take all the starting spots, but if you get lazy these new guys are gonna come for your jobs, and when that happens dont come crying to me because you got lazy'". The point he was trying to make, and something i try and remind myself of is dont ever look at a kid who doesnt understand the game and write him off in favor of a kid who might know more. Because if you do that you never give those kids a chance to play, and your team can fall into complacency. Something I learned some time ago is to prepare them for that 1st loss. One year we had an unexpectedly good season with mostly sophomores and juniors. The expectation for the next year was, of course, that those guys would be older and experienced, so everyone was thinking CHAMPIONSHIP...even the local newspapers...which convinced me that the worst thing we could do for high school football players, was to teach them to read. Then, next year's first game we lost. The players didn't expect that. They figured all they had to do was to throw their jock strap out on the 50 yard line and their opponent would crumble. They tensed up and tried too hard, and consequently lost the 2nd game. Now they began getting down on one another. Naturally, the parents chimed in (as always) and the coaches pushed harder. Practice wasn't fun anymore. Ultimately we finished 4 and 5 in a season we could have won 7 or 8...and possibly made a playoff surge. In almost 50 years I've gone undefeated only once. That first loss is out there...right around the corner and they can't avoid it. But as coaches, we can prepare them for it, and keep moving on. A season can always be salvaged.
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 13, 2021 18:14:41 GMT -6
In talking with coaches on here and twitter and facebook i often come away with a tip or a new way of thinking of things. But instead of posting about all those good smaller tips i'm posting this to see if we might all share that one big piece of information or that one big takeaway we've gotten in our careers and post them here for others to see and learn from. The one piece of advice i got was from a great man Lindsey Robbins (RIP) who told me "Regardless of whether a kid has been playing football his whole life, or has never even seen a football before, coach them fairly, coach them honestly, and tell them 'you guys who know everything right now are gonna dominate the first few weeks and take all the starting spots, but if you get lazy these new guys are gonna come for your jobs, and when that happens dont come crying to me because you got lazy'". The point he was trying to make, and something i try and remind myself of is dont ever look at a kid who doesnt understand the game and write him off in favor of a kid who might know more. Because if you do that you never give those kids a chance to play, and your team can fall into complacency. Something I learned some time ago is to prepare them for that 1st loss. One year we had an unexpectedly good season with mostly sophomores and juniors. The expectation for the next year was, of course, that those guys would be older and experienced, so everyone was thinking CHAMPIONSHIP...even the local newspapers...which convinced me that the worst thing we could do for high school football players, was to teach them to read. Then, next year's first game we lost. The players didn't expect that. They figured all they had to do was to throw their jock strap out on the 50 yard line and their opponent would crumble. They tensed up and tried too hard, and consequently lost the 2nd game. Now they began getting down on one another. Naturally, the parents chimed in (as always) and the coaches pushed harder. Practice wasn't fun anymore. Ultimately we finished 4 and 5 in a season we could have won 7 or 8...and possibly made a playoff surge. In almost 50 years I've gone undefeated only once. That first loss is out there...right around the corner and they can't avoid it. But as coaches, we can prepare them for it, and keep moving on. A season can always be salvaged. on a similar note but in the inverse, I made a point to express how HARD it is to go undefeated. BUT that was usually not at the beginning of the season but rather in the midst of winning streak. SOOOOOO many nuanced things that go into good coaching. great point chi5hi
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 13, 2021 18:20:12 GMT -6
"Be prepared to lose with 'winners' versus winning with 'losers'." Coaching is so much more rewarding when you start measuring the kids by their work ethic and attitudes and not their innate athletic ability. So true. Nothing more miserable than having a season where you dread having to go through a practice and coach a player(s).
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Post by tog on Apr 13, 2021 21:33:00 GMT -6
find a mentor to really learn from
and find a "star" to latch onto
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Post by 19delta on Apr 14, 2021 4:59:14 GMT -6
The best pieces of advice I ever got was, "if you aren't going to be any good, play a lot of kids".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 6:12:15 GMT -6
find a mentor to really learn from This times 100000000000000000000000000000000000 and I’ll add to this, mine was a cop. After the fact, I learned how many problems were kept/ buried before they became REAL PROBLEMS, because of my mentor. Have a doctor, a lawyer, even if they have to be absent at times,on staff and make sure they are Dudes, on your staff. Stipen can’t be large enough for work in the dark they will provide.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 6:13:38 GMT -6
and find a "star" to latch onto Clarify please? I think I know what you mean but to be sure... Thanks.
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Post by tog on Apr 14, 2021 7:19:01 GMT -6
and find a "star" to latch onto Clarify please? I think I know what you mean but to be sure... Thanks. assuming most people's goals would be to move up from jr high, freshman, varsity assistant, coordinator, head coach (general route in Texas) find a star to me means--get on at a place that will win--and staff from there will move on to other good jobs opening them for you so the star can be the place, or the hot name that's floating around that you can be attached to (here in Texas, Todd Dodge, Gary Joseph etc) I didn't mention Chad Morris for other reasons, but Allen would be at least a star place
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 7:20:51 GMT -6
Clarify please? I think I know what you mean but to be sure... Thanks. assuming most people's goals would be to move up from jr high, freshman, varsity assistant, coordinator, head coach (general route in Texas) find a star to me means--get on at a place that will win--and staff from there will move on to other good jobs opening them for you so the star can be the place, or the hot name that's floating around that you can be attached to (here in Texas, Todd Dodge, Gary Joseph etc) I didn't mention Chad Morris for other reasons, but Allen would be at least a star place Great! Thanks
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 14, 2021 7:29:08 GMT -6
Clarify please? I think I know what you mean but to be sure... Thanks. assuming most people's goals would be to move up from jr high, freshman, varsity assistant, coordinator, head coach (general route in Texas) find a star to me means--get on at a place that will win--and staff from there will move on to other good jobs opening them for you so the star can be the place, or the hot name that's floating around that you can be attached to (here in Texas, Todd Dodge, Gary Joseph etc) I didn't mention Chad Morris for other reasons, but Allen would be at least a star place I think that should definitely be Texas only advice. Idk that I've ever seen a HC be able to take 1 assistant let alone a whole staff around these parts.
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Post by tog on Apr 14, 2021 7:54:47 GMT -6
assuming most people's goals would be to move up from jr high, freshman, varsity assistant, coordinator, head coach (general route in Texas) find a star to me means--get on at a place that will win--and staff from there will move on to other good jobs opening them for you so the star can be the place, or the hot name that's floating around that you can be attached to (here in Texas, Todd Dodge, Gary Joseph etc) I didn't mention Chad Morris for other reasons, but Allen would be at least a star place I think that should definitely be Texas only advice. Idk that I've ever seen a HC be able to take 1 assistant let alone a whole staff around these parts. I understand Texas may be a little bit of an outlier. Let me clarify a bit. Most head coaches if they move get to bring probably 4 assistants with them to their new school (talking 5a, 6a our highest levels) The 5a/6a coordinator that gets the hc job at some other place can also be what I am referring to as a star---because he will usually siphon off 3-4 of his old place's staff to go with him (usually as a move up--asst to coordinator kind of thing) Even at the smaller levels here, the assistant getting the hc gig, or the hc moving to a new place gets to bring in at least his 2 coordinators if they are able to move. If not both of the coordinators--then one of them and an assistant that he can then promote at the new place.
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Post by Coach.A on Apr 14, 2021 9:23:47 GMT -6
1. Meet with your Captains / Leadership Council every week to reflect on the previous week and plan for the upcoming week
2. Try to have a 1 on 1 meeting with everybody in your Program during the off-season. We do this in our exit interviews.
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Post by CoachSP on Apr 14, 2021 9:27:20 GMT -6
Don't coach a kid who is already on the field (unless it's the CB on your sideline...maybe) because they probably can't hear you. And, if they can hear your voice, they probably can't hear what you are saying.
Love them all, even the one's who cannot help you.
Don't crap where you eat.
Have a plan before walking out of the coaches office. Don't wing it.
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Post by Defcord on Apr 14, 2021 10:39:54 GMT -6
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Post by kcbazooka on Apr 14, 2021 17:56:27 GMT -6
I was taught that in a pe major class. Best advice there is. Sadly, some coaches at all levels don't abide by the lesson...
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Post by 19delta on Apr 14, 2021 19:13:18 GMT -6
I was taught that in a pe major class. Best advice there is. Sadly, some coaches at all levels don't abide by the lesson... True. It seems that there are way too many teachers and coaches who have embarrassingly sloppy personal lives.
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Post by 19delta on Apr 14, 2021 19:15:48 GMT -6
Love them all, even the one's who cannot help you. Yeah. That's a really good one. The way I heard this best explained was "there are a lot of kids who need football a lot more than football needs them".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 19:52:18 GMT -6
Love them all, even the one's who cannot help you. Yeah. That's a really good one. The way I heard this best explained was "there are a lot of kids who need football a lot more than football needs them". they need you more than they need football. They come to you ultimately.
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