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Post by pvogel on Aug 23, 2020 21:12:32 GMT -6
IMO, the most effective way to determine if what you're asking is "simple" or "learnable" is to have each coach make a skill inventory for the positions they coach. Ask them to write down EVERY SKILL that they will be coaching and then ask them if it's "simple" or learnable." They'll figure out, in a hurry, whether or not the offense is going to be feasible to coach. THIS! Man... the amount of times someone has suggested a play they saw an NFL or College team run that would make literally everyone learn a new skill... that ticks me off. "It's not that difficult"... maybe in a vacuum... but we could also use that time for wrinkles on things that we already do!
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Post by coachcb on Aug 24, 2020 14:44:33 GMT -6
IMO, the most effective way to determine if what you're asking is "simple" or "learnable" is to have each coach make a skill inventory for the positions they coach. Ask them to write down EVERY SKILL that they will be coaching and then ask them if it's "simple" or learnable." They'll figure out, in a hurry, whether or not the offense is going to be feasible to coach. THIS! Man... the amount of times someone has suggested a play they saw an NFL or College team run that would make literally everyone learn a new skill... that ticks me off. "It's not that difficult"... maybe in a vacuum... but we could also use that time for wrinkles on things that we already do!
It all looks "simple" on paper until you start adding up the skills that need to be taught for each new installation.
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Post by carookie on Aug 24, 2020 15:48:39 GMT -6
THIS! Man... the amount of times someone has suggested a play they saw an NFL or College team run that would make literally everyone learn a new skill... that ticks me off. "It's not that difficult"... maybe in a vacuum... but we could also use that time for wrinkles on things that we already do!
It all looks "simple" on paper until you start adding up the skills that need to be taught for each new installation.
This is one of the reason I like to map out all our practices and drills before the season, and stick to that. Sure you may have to make some adjustments here or there, but it really keeps you inline in regards to not overdoing it.
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Post by coachcb on Aug 25, 2020 7:25:00 GMT -6
It all looks "simple" on paper until you start adding up the skills that need to be taught for each new installation.
This is one of the reason I like to map out all our practices and drills before the season, and stick to that. Sure you may have to make some adjustments here or there, but it really keeps you inline in regards to not overdoing it.
We do the same after creating the skill inventory. We go through that inventory, identify EVERYTHING that needs to be taught and then prioritize them in terms of practice time. IME, some coaches tend to forget that basic fundamentals need to be addressed continually as well. Ball security is a good example; the backs start losing the ball as soon as we back off on those drills.
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Post by agap on Aug 25, 2020 16:31:55 GMT -6
If we need another front/stunt, blitz, coverage, or whatever else to stop an offense, we’ll add it. I’ve learned over the years that we don’t need to do a lot to stop the offenses we see. I’m sure it’s different around the country, but we see a lot of the same things each week so we don’t need to run many things. However, we’ll add more if we need to.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 17:32:04 GMT -6
When kids are having success, they are having fun. The answer to me is to keep It to a couple of thing, arm your players with all the adjustments within those few things. And let them go.
Keep it stupid simple.
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Post by coachgower on Apr 16, 2021 10:10:13 GMT -6
I'll chime in...
Before I start, please understand WE fortunately have shutout people and I have been unfortunate to give up 50 more than once, including winning records and losing records at the end of the year. *Please notice how prefaced the we & shutout vs. I & 50.* Although there might have been a difference in the score, there was zero difference in the approach to the game and preparation, including offseason work. This is just my .02, but as coach, I have always been under the impression that I/we can install anything and everything. Reasons for this...
1. I believe in my abilities to learn something and decipher, "Does this fit us?" - If the answer is yes, then we will install/implement something, rep it, and make it work. 2. Although I believe football IQ varies from program to program and kid to kid, I believe that if a coach learns and studies the game, he can coach a kid the "same as" approach, which in turn allows for more scheme, even though the player believes he has only been taught one or two "same as" ideas. 3. Kids don't know what is "KISS" and what is "KILL" - Kids can learn what you teach them. No doubt, that it takes a little bit longer for certain kids to grasp the concept, but that is why they call you coach. 4. I never want to go into a game or after a game and say, "I wish we had more bullets in the gun." For me, this goes hand and hand with being able to have enough adjustments throughout the game. In my opinion, a simple game and simple install has few adjustments, and I have never been anywhere, where we can consistently just be better than our opponent. 5. Here comes the "Jimmies & Joes" talk - It's my job to not allow Jimmy & Joe to make plays, it's my job to limit Jimmy & Joe, and make John beat us. I want to make the OC prepare for me and also get in game and completely take away the section of his call that is devoted to Jimmy & Joe. 6. No, I do not have all the answers and never will. However, because of the addiction to this game and the quest for more knowledge, I want to study the newest and latest trends of how to stop someone defensively or score more points offensively. ***Yes, I know some guy on here will say he has run the same defense for the past 30 years and hasn't changed, and that is great.*** Which leads me to... 7. I believe "K.I.S.S." is a cop out a/k/a - Coach saying he doesn't really want to learn, or my favorite, "It's not what I know, it's what the kids know." Again, I understand KISS may work for you, but again, my belief of the KISS principle is merely the, "This looks complicated, so I'm not going to teach it" as opposed to this mindset, "This benefits one program, why can it not benefit us." 8. K.I.S.S. might win you some games, but KISS will also get your ass beat. Once had a night, where I called 13 different 3x1 checks. Yes, 13. Why...We had to! We had to stop two FBS Wide Receivers and also the FBS RB, and yes we won the game. My point, we installed all those coverages in spring ball, summer, and two a days, so when it came game time, our kids were able to execute all 13 coverages that night. If we only had 3 coverages that night, we would have got beat and you can't convince me otherwise. All about how you approach the install and when you will need it!
Again, this is just my .02. Have had some great seasons and have had some bad seasons, but through every season, my approach has always been the same as it relates to install. If I can teach and coach the install at one place, I can teach and coach the install at another place.
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Post by mkuempel on Apr 16, 2021 10:24:40 GMT -6
I once had an old HOF teacher/coach tell me, and I think it fits this discussion well, "Everything is simple once you understand it."
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Apr 16, 2021 13:12:19 GMT -6
I'll chime in... 7. I believe "K.I.S.S." is a cop out a/k/a - Coach saying he doesn't really want to learn, or my favorite, "It's not what I know, it's what the kids know." Again, I understand KISS may work for you, but again, my belief of the KISS principle is merely the, "This looks complicated, so I'm not going to teach it" as opposed to this mindset, "This benefits one program, why can it not benefit us." Amen
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