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Post by drmackey on Dec 10, 2019 13:06:03 GMT -6
As far as lifting goes, every athlete lifts all year. This is a non negotiable. If a kid doesn't want to lift then they get out of athletics. If a coach doesn't want his/her kids lifting then they find a job somewhere else.
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Post by wolverine55 on Dec 10, 2019 15:06:11 GMT -6
2. He does lift. We have all of our players lifting in class all, year round. Ummmmmmm... This changes everything. What are we even talking about? I sort of had the same feeling here. I always thought one of the advantages of having a weight lifting class was that you then didn't have to do it after school...
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Post by rosey65 on Dec 11, 2019 10:32:34 GMT -6
This seems like an excessive amount of rules, as some have mentioned already, and many of them I dont see the point of.
We have a rule regarding quitting, but it just applies to in-season sports. If you quit 1 in-season, you cant be a part of the new sport until the old one ends..... but there is a lot of grey area. It mostly just keeps the football kids from quitting the last 2 games of the season to move onto basketball, or a basketball kid from quitting before a playoff blowout to play baseball.
But seriously, let kids be kids!!! If a kid tries a sport and doesn't like it, why the F*** would you punish him?!
The fewer hard-line rules you have, the more wiggle room you give yourselves. A successful MS wrestler who quits after facing the rigors of HS sports would be more deemed a "retirement." He's not quitting to benefit himself or game the system, he's quitting because he no longer loves the sport and is choosing to never play it again.
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Post by larrymoe on Dec 11, 2019 10:44:57 GMT -6
We had a point system when I was a HC. They got 50pts for completion of playing another sports. Lifting was a day by day deal where if they came every day, they could earn a total of 40pts or something. It was done to encourage multiple sport athletes.
We did have some kids go out for a sport and after 2-3 weeks they realize it just wasn't for them. My approach? That's fine, I get it. If you quit, you won't get the 50pts or the points for showing up to lifting, but you're more than welcome in the weight room with us. If a kid quit after 3 or 4 practices, I generally threw some points his way if he came to lifting regularly.
I did track as a sophomore because one of our football coaches told me I could throw and lift pretty much all practice as he was the throws coach. After two weeks of him running us 1-2.5 miles every practice and never touching a weight, I was done. I didn't quit, but I certainly understand why kids want to quit.
My daughter is currently playing basketball, is the only girl to have not missed a practice (at least half the team skipped because of Black Friday shopping) and never plays. I have no problem if she decides to pull the plug.
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Post by kcbazooka on Dec 11, 2019 10:55:45 GMT -6
One thing that hasn’t been mentioned is how it effects your interaction with the other sports’ coaching staffs. If you’re allowing kids to quit a sport and go directly to weightlifting you may not get support from the sports coaches. Example, I was an assistant football coach who was the head track coach. Another assistant football coach with the backing of the head coach, encouraged one of the track kids to quit and start weightlifting, I was peeved. The kid was not a superstar track athlete but I felt since he came out for track he should stuck with it. Plus, I thought track benefitted him as much as after school weightlifting did.
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Post by silkyice on Dec 11, 2019 11:01:54 GMT -6
One thing that hasn’t been mentioned is how it effects your interaction with the other sports’ coaching staffs. If you’re allowing kids to quit a sport and go directly to weightlifting you may not get support from the sports coaches. Example, I was an assistant football coach who was the head track coach. Another assistant football coach with the backing of the head coach, encouraged one of the track kids to quit and start weightlifting, I was peeved. The kid was not a superstar track athlete but I felt since he came out for track he should stuck with it. Plus, I thought track benefitted him as much as after school weightlifting did. Why wasn't he lifting as a track athlete? College track athletes lift. Olympic track athletes lift. ATHLETES lift! I agree with you that the coach shouldn't have encouraged a kid to quit track. That is wrong. I agree that you should have been peeved. But isn't the solution for all athletes to lift!! It shouldn't be a football lift. It should be an athletic lift.
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Post by kcbazooka on Dec 11, 2019 12:22:23 GMT -6
Our track kids do lift. The football coaches have their kids not out for spring sports in their own afternoon program 3x a week for about an hour.
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Post by rosey65 on Dec 11, 2019 12:28:33 GMT -6
One thing that hasn’t been mentioned is how it effects your interaction with the other sports’ coaching staffs. If you’re allowing kids to quit a sport and go directly to weightlifting you may not get support from the sports coaches. Example, I was an assistant football coach who was the head track coach. Another assistant football coach with the backing of the head coach, encouraged one of the track kids to quit and start weightlifting, I was peeved. The kid was not a superstar track athlete but I felt since he came out for track he should stuck with it. Plus, I thought track benefitted him as much as after school weightlifting did. Any coach who encourages a kid to quit an activity so the kid can start their own activity is selfish @$$clown. We have some winter/spring sports here that are in absolute shambles. The way I counteract those terrible coaches of terrible programs is to work as hard as I can on my program. By the time the kids are sophomores, every single athlete has seen thru the sham of these other programs. Most quit on their own, the few that stay do so almost apologetically. The few seniors who play those sports flat-out say they cant wait for football, they hate the program, but they love playing the game so they gut it out. Again, I dont see how a kid quitting a sport because it isn't for them, the coach sucks, the program is unorganized, or they simply outgrew a love of the game should impact them joining YOUR FREAKING OFFSEASON WORKOUTS
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