CoachC
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Post by CoachC on Sept 30, 2019 9:11:43 GMT -6
This is the last week for our JV kids. We will be moving up some, but not all, to the varsity team. Just curious how others handle letting the kids know (logistics) and also how you deal with parents that are disappointed their kid didn't get moved up and the parents that don't want their kid to move up.
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Post by carookie on Sept 30, 2019 10:19:02 GMT -6
When I used to be at giant schools this was sometimes a pain. Let me ask, are you moving up as many as you can (ie as many as you have uniforms for), or just those who may contribute? Are you not moving up some kids because they will be distractions? Would you be willing to move up kids but let them know they won't be getting any indi reps, but it will be good for them to see varsity practice first hand?
The parent thing you should try to know at the start of the season (a JV kid can be just an injury or two away from getting called up), try to find out early whose parents are hesitant about them being called up. As for now, I'd send out an email/remind/whatever is your best way of communicating to all JV parents informing them that there may be some who are called up to varsity, and that if there is any issue to contact you. It may not prevent a last second mom from saying she doesn't want Jimmy to move up, but is a good start.
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Post by CoachC on Sept 30, 2019 10:45:27 GMT -6
Pretty much moving up everyone that won't be a distraction. Small school and with injuries, we dressed 21 last Friday. The plan is to move up 13 and let the other 11 be done for the year. Pretty sure I won't have any problems, was just curious as to how others have dealt with the process.
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Post by carookie on Sept 30, 2019 12:52:44 GMT -6
I would just confirm with parents that they are okay with their son moving up, some parents freak out. And just have a PC answer ready for those parents who are grumpy about their kids not getting called up (have ducks in a row on this).
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Post by blb on Sept 30, 2019 15:15:55 GMT -6
in the future when you have your Pre-Season Parents' Meeting explain your philosophy on moving kids up - why and when.
At this point - tell parents that ask you are only moving kids up that are ready and may actually play in the game.
If that's not true, don't tell them that.
Those who aren't ready, won't have a chance to play, would only be scout team players.
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Post by macdiiddy on Sept 30, 2019 18:24:06 GMT -6
I don't know the logistics of your program but I don't see the benefit of labeling kids, not good enough. With such few numbers it makes a difference to get extra individual reps. You never know when that kid that makes a better water boy then a 3 tech as a freshman will become by his senior year.
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Post by wingtol on Sept 30, 2019 19:29:36 GMT -6
With 45 total in your program why are they even separate in the first place? With 21 dressed for a varsity game we'd have all hands on deck every game. We have about 24 total right now and in years past 9-12 was all together, practiced the same, all dressed for varsity games, and then jvs played in their jv game. If your fighting a numbers problem I wouldn't hesitate to bring them all up.
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Post by freezeoption on Sept 30, 2019 20:35:34 GMT -6
Unless this is a tradition thing I would move them up. Those other kids may be your studs down the road but they may not try to get better if they are considered important.
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Post by fantom on Sept 30, 2019 21:31:58 GMT -6
Unless this is a tradition thing I would move them up. Those other kids may be your studs down the road but they may not try to get better if they are considered important. Yeah, I don't see any reason to cut anybody loose. Now, if a kid or his parents don't want to move up that's their decision. I have to ask- Do your JV's always finish this early?
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Post by 44dlcoach on Sept 30, 2019 23:38:24 GMT -6
The only reasons we ever didn't move kids up were if they were a potential distraction/discipline issue or if we thought it was physically unsafe (rarely) for them to be in a varsity practice situation.
Roster size might be a consideration I suppose, but we were never lucky enough to have that concern and I spent a long time at a pretty big school. Now at a private school with a smaller enrollment we'll take any able bodied non-A-hole we can get.
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Post by fkaboneyard on Oct 1, 2019 6:46:13 GMT -6
I was in a program where the HC wanted to move everybody up because he thought it made the program look bigger. I will admit that seeing 70 kids on the sideline when the other team only has 15-20 is impressive. But most, if not all, of the kids moved up didn't serve any real role on the team. During practice they were expected to do the conditioning and then stand and watch for two hours. Most of the kids weren't really able to do that and ended up screwing around. They ended up being a distraction to both players and coaches. I can't say I really blame the young kids, at 14 I don't think I could have held it together 5 days a week, 2 hours a day. It was worth it in the HC's mind but the opinion of AC's and regular varsity players was that it was not worth it. If I were in charge I would ask them to come up but I would also make it clear what was expected of them.
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Post by realdawg on Oct 1, 2019 6:52:42 GMT -6
We call all the ones we are moving up into the office and speak with them one at a time. We make sure they understand that they are expected to be the scout team and probably will not get in the games. If they don’t understand that or agree to that then we let them go on to b-ball or wrestling.
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Post by CoachC on Oct 1, 2019 7:06:58 GMT -6
With 45 total in your program why are they even separate in the first place? With 21 dressed for a varsity game we'd have all hands on deck every game. We have about 24 total right now and in years past 9-12 was all together, practiced the same, all dressed for varsity games, and then jvs played in their jv game. If your fighting a numbers problem I wouldn't hesitate to bring them all up. We're only separate during team periods and on game days really. We practice all our individual and group periods together. They are only allowed to dress for one game a week, so dressing for varsity games isn't an option until the JV season is over. The only ones we aren't bringing up are the "distractions".
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Post by CoachC on Oct 1, 2019 7:14:12 GMT -6
Unless this is a tradition thing I would move them up. Those other kids may be your studs down the road but they may not try to get better if they are considered important. Yeah, I don't see any reason to cut anybody loose. Now, if a kid or his parents don't want to move up that's their decision. I have to ask- Do your JV's always finish this early? Yes, this is usually about the time they finish. They played 6 games in 7 weeks, which is pretty typical around central Florida. I wasn't happy with the 'bye' week they had and would have preferred they played 7 games, but the schedule was made before I was hired. (I'm going to try and fill that week next season.) We're planning on bringing up any able bodied young man that can help fill a scout team, give the older kids a break on some special teams, and won't be a distraction at practice.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 12:24:42 GMT -6
This is the last week for our JV kids. We will be moving up some, but not all, to the varsity team. Just curious how others handle letting the kids know (logistics) and also how you deal with parents that are disappointed their kid didn't get moved up and the parents that don't want their kid to move up. The kids we specifically want to move up and see making a contribution, we talk to directly and let them know, then talk to their parents. If parents don't agree, the kid doesn't move up. Then we make a blanket invitation to the rest of the JV kids that they're all invited to move up and practice the next day if they want, but they aren't promised any playing time or even practice reps. The kids who want to move up and proudly wear that varsity uniform without any prodding are typically the ones who are most excited about football and will work harder in the offseason after getting a taste of varsity. That addresses both your concerns pretty well. If equipment shortages are an issue, you may want to see how many you've got and say you have X number of spots (set some aside for the kids you want) then make it first-come, first serve for the ones who are moving themselves up.
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