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Post by CS on Sept 13, 2019 7:24:22 GMT -6
I’m seriously considering not letting my kid have a phone. Do the old take the cell phone when you go out routine.
The problem isn’t that kids do more stupid $hit than they used too. It’s that they have a medium to spew that stupid $hit all over the place
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Post by planck on Sept 13, 2019 7:27:12 GMT -6
The problem isn’t that kids do more stupid $hit than they used too. It’s that they have a medium to spew that stupid $hit all over the place Yep. Kids aren't dumber or lazier than they used to be. They've always made stupid choices. Now, their choices just get amplified faster and louder. |
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Post by fantom on Sept 13, 2019 8:11:06 GMT -6
I’m seriously considering not letting my kid have a phone. Do the old take the cell phone when you go out routine. The problem isn’t that kids do more stupid $hit than they used too. It’s that they have a medium to spew that stupid $hit all over the place Whenever I go to a reunion or get together with old friends you can bet that somebody will say how thankful they are that we didn't have cell phones and everybody agrees. That said, I've seen the video and we didn't do THAT. |
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Post by CS on Sept 13, 2019 8:35:15 GMT -6
I’m seriously considering not letting my kid have a phone. Do the old take the cell phone when you go out routine. The problem isn’t that kids do more stupid $hit than they used too. It’s that they have a medium to spew that stupid $hit all over the place Whenever I go to a reunion or get together with old friends you can bet that somebody will say how thankful they are that we didn't have cell phones and everybody agrees. That said, I've seen the video and we didn't do THAT. You may not have. But I bet it was going on somewhere |
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Post by coachcb on Sept 13, 2019 10:36:18 GMT -6
Honestly, we have had more serious discipline issues with cell phones over the years than just about anything else. Honestly, we have had to get law enforcement involved on virtually every cell-phone violation we've had over the past five years. We've put the hammer down hard when it comes to cell phones in locker rooms and at school but yet we still have kids pulling stupid crap with it. We had a kid sneak a second cell phone into a locker room so he could take pics of guys showering and send them to everyone and their dog.
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Post by carookie on Sept 13, 2019 11:05:47 GMT -6
I’m seriously considering not letting my kid have a phone. Do the old take the cell phone when you go out routine. The problem isn’t that kids do more stupid $hit than they used too. It’s that they have a medium to spew that stupid $hit all over the place Any time a student or player asks me if I have social media (facebook, ig, etc) I tell them "No, I'm a grown man so I don't do that stuff." When they point out to me that their parents and grandparents do then I cite Lil' Wayne, "Real G's move in silence like lasagna". Neither tactic works (they don't even know Lil' Wayne), the most important thing is to be known, and there is no such thing as bad publicity. |
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Post by fantom on Sept 13, 2019 12:07:41 GMT -6
Honestly, we have had more serious discipline issues with cell phones over the years than just about anything else. Honestly, we have had to get law enforcement involved on virtually every cell-phone violation we've had over the past five years. We've put the hammer down hard when it comes to cell phones in locker rooms and at school but yet we still have kids pulling stupid crap with it. We had a kid sneak a second cell phone into a locker room so he could take pics of guys showering and send them to everyone and their dog. Your guys shower? |
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Post by coachcb on Sept 13, 2019 12:22:58 GMT -6
Honestly, we have had more serious discipline issues with cell phones over the years than just about anything else. Honestly, we have had to get law enforcement involved on virtually every cell-phone violation we've had over the past five years. We've put the hammer down hard when it comes to cell phones in locker rooms and at school but yet we still have kids pulling stupid crap with it. We had a kid sneak a second cell phone into a locker room so he could take pics of guys showering and send them to everyone and their dog. Your guys shower?
Cleanliness is next to Godliness... And, apparently, so is taking nasty locker room pics. Had a kid go up on felony charges for his cell phone crap.
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Post by klaby on Sept 13, 2019 15:23:46 GMT -6
Ok The COP in me has some questions. What was this "racial" slur? What context was it said? In this day and age where racial and racism is thrown around just because someone doesn't like someone else or someone else's politics I look at these with a colored lens. Having been accused of this 100s of times simply because I wore a Blue uniform, a badge and carried a gun.
I need more info. I also do not subscribe to the punish all for the mistakes of one or the few. Punish the offender(s). You have the video, you know who they are. This isn't a case of not knowing who did it so punish all until someone rats the group out. This is cut and dry. Kick the offender off team, why punish the kids that didn't act like motards?
I agree I try to keep my kids off social media, but its hard.
What doesn't make it any better is when a pro athlete like Antonio Brown calls his Boss a racial slur and instead of punishment he gets 20 million dollars...kids see this...
Also rappers and other entertainers can throw around the "N" word all day and they get a pass, because of the color of their skin. Isn't that the definition of racism?
This is poor leadership!
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Post by wildcatslbcoach24 on Sept 13, 2019 18:00:26 GMT -6
Ok The COP in me has some questions. What was this "racial" slur? What context was it said? In this day and age where racial and racism is thrown around just because someone doesn't like someone else or someone else's politics I look at these with a colored lens. Having been accused of this 100s of times simply because I wore a Blue uniform, a badge and carried a gun. I need more info. I also do not subscribe to the punish all for the mistakes of one or the few. Punish the offender(s). You have the video, you know who they are. This isn't a case of not knowing who did it so punish all until someone rats the group out. This is cut and dry. Kick the offender off team, why punish the kids that didn't act like motards? I agree I try to keep my kids off social media, but its hard. What doesn't make it any better is when a pro athlete like Antonio Brown calls his Boss a racial slur and instead of punishment he gets 20 million dollars...kids see this... Also rappers and other entertainers can throw around the "N" word all day and they get a pass, because of the color of their skin. Isn't that the definition of racism? This is poor leadership! What in the covefefe apologist type of excuse is this? A district wouldn’t go to this extreme unless there was serious racist, religiously intolerant, and/or homophobic language used by multiple players; most likely using contextual clues for the area this happened, the N word and other slurs were used. Stop apologizing for “casual” racism and normalizing with boys will say stupid s$&& excuse! Those “stupid” boys grow up to be men who exercise this prejudice and racist outlook on life that affects them, their families and people of color around them. They grow up and rally on college campuses with tiki torches yelling “blood and soil”; more insidiously they often gain positions of power where they have the fate of people of color in their hands. All this technology has done is forcing people to see the ugly underbelly of America’s race problems. I don’t think they would forfeit the gate ticket for a few bigots/ racists making comments; most likely it was enough guys to be suspended that they decided to forfeit. Whether you realize it or not you are creating an excuse for abhorrent behavior. The use of racial slurs has been used to oppress ethnic and racial minority groups in America for centuries. You might say I am a “snowflake” about this, but we live in a day in age where we still have lynchings and the murder of people of color in America daily. Racism in America is not a symptom of something wrong in America, but rather that the system was created to oppress large swaths of the population. It was engrained in our national identity as far back as 1619 and is still deeply entrenched under our cultural veneer of a “color blind” society. The use of the N-word by rappers and black / Afro-Latino people is following a long line of re-appropriation of racial slurs in America it’s similar to how Polish, Irish, and Italian communities turned racial slurs, back when these ethnic groups were not considered “white”. For historical context this only happened as recently the late 70s / early 80s when WASPS vested white privilege to these ethnic groups in return for fighting against bussing and the next wave of Deseg. I would love for us to unpack this in a civilized discussion and could provide anyone interested in learning more with tons of academic resources, books, and other articles. |
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Post by wildcatslbcoach24 on Sept 13, 2019 19:33:42 GMT -6
Cleanliness is next to Godliness... And, apparently, so is taking nasty locker room pics. Had a kid go up on felony charges for his cell phone crap.
It is a mind bending and mind numbing experience. Dealt with a situation a few years back with student-athletes sending dirty pics. The kids don’t getvthey could get slammed with child pornography and dissemination of child porn. What a brave new world we’ve been living in last 10-15 years... |
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Post by 54695469 on Sept 14, 2019 18:48:06 GMT -6
Ok The COP in me has some questions. What was this "racial" slur? What context was it said? In this day and age where racial and racism is thrown around just because someone doesn't like someone else or someone else's politics I look at these with a colored lens. Having been accused of this 100s of times simply because I wore a Blue uniform, a badge and carried a gun. I need more info. I also do not subscribe to the punish all for the mistakes of one or the few. Punish the offender(s). You have the video, you know who they are. This isn't a case of not knowing who did it so punish all until someone rats the group out. This is cut and dry. Kick the offender off team, why punish the kids that didn't act like motards? I agree I try to keep my kids off social media, but its hard. What doesn't make it any better is when a pro athlete like Antonio Brown calls his Boss a racial slur and instead of punishment he gets 20 million dollars...kids see this... Also rappers and other entertainers can throw around the "N" word all day and they get a pass, because of the color of their skin. Isn't that the definition of racism? This is poor leadership! What in the covefefe apologist type of excuse is this? A district wouldn’t go to this extreme unless there was serious racist, religiously intolerant, and/or homophobic language used by multiple players; most likely using contextual clues for the area this happened, the N word and other slurs were used. Stop apologizing for “casual” racism and normalizing with boys will say stupid s$&& excuse! Those “stupid” boys grow up to be men who exercise this prejudice and racist outlook on life that affects them, their families and people of color around them. They grow up and rally on college campuses with tiki torches yelling “blood and soil”; more insidiously they often gain positions of power where they have the fate of people of color in their hands. All this technology has done is forcing people to see the ugly underbelly of America’s race problems. I don’t think they would forfeit the gate ticket for a few bigots/ racists making comments; most likely it was enough guys to be suspended that they decided to forfeit. Whether you realize it or not you are creating an excuse for abhorrent behavior. The use of racial slurs has been used to oppress ethnic and racial minority groups in America for centuries. You might say I am a “snowflake” about this, but we live in a day in age where we still have lynchings and the murder of people of color in America daily. Racism in America is not a symptom of something wrong in America, but rather that the system was created to oppress large swaths of the population. It was engrained in our national identity as far back as 1619 and is still deeply entrenched under our cultural veneer of a “color blind” society. The use of the N-word by rappers and black / Afro-Latino people is following a long line of re-appropriation of racial slurs in America it’s similar to how Polish, Irish, and Italian communities turned racial slurs, back when these ethnic groups were not considered “white”. For historical context this only happened as recently the late 70s / early 80s when WASPS vested white privilege to these ethnic groups in return for fighting against bussing and the next wave of Deseg. I would love for us to unpack this in a civilized discussion and could provide anyone interested in learning more with tons of academic resources, books, and other articles. You're right. You sound like a snowflake. |
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Post by wildcatslbcoach24 on Sept 14, 2019 19:06:14 GMT -6
What in the covefefe apologist type of excuse is this? A district wouldn’t go to this extreme unless there was serious racist, religiously intolerant, and/or homophobic language used by multiple players; most likely using contextual clues for the area this happened, the N word and other slurs were used. Stop apologizing for “casual” racism and normalizing with boys will say stupid s$&& excuse! Those “stupid” boys grow up to be men who exercise this prejudice and racist outlook on life that affects them, their families and people of color around them. They grow up and rally on college campuses with tiki torches yelling “blood and soil”; more insidiously they often gain positions of power where they have the fate of people of color in their hands. All this technology has done is forcing people to see the ugly underbelly of America’s race problems. I don’t think they would forfeit the gate ticket for a few bigots/ racists making comments; most likely it was enough guys to be suspended that they decided to forfeit. Whether you realize it or not you are creating an excuse for abhorrent behavior. The use of racial slurs has been used to oppress ethnic and racial minority groups in America for centuries. You might say I am a “snowflake” about this, but we live in a day in age where we still have lynchings and the murder of people of color in America daily. Racism in America is not a symptom of something wrong in America, but rather that the system was created to oppress large swaths of the population. It was engrained in our national identity as far back as 1619 and is still deeply entrenched under our cultural veneer of a “color blind” society. The use of the N-word by rappers and black / Afro-Latino people is following a long line of re-appropriation of racial slurs in America it’s similar to how Polish, Irish, and Italian communities turned racial slurs, back when these ethnic groups were not considered “white”. For historical context this only happened as recently the late 70s / early 80s when WASPS vested white privilege to these ethnic groups in return for fighting against bussing and the next wave of Deseg. I would love for us to unpack this in a civilized discussion and could provide anyone interested in learning more with tons of academic resources, books, and other articles. You're right. You sound like a snowflake. Nope sound like someone who has grown up on the US-Mexico border in a law-enforcement and military family, who will openly talk about how our system is specifically created to target and oppress minority groups. I have very basic understanding in race and power dynamics in the Western Hemisphere. It’s funny how easily people will talk about the opression and discrimination their ethnic European ancestors face yet can’t have the same understanding for people of color in America. |
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Post by wildcatslbcoach24 on Sept 14, 2019 19:31:35 GMT -6
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Post by 54695469 on Sept 15, 2019 9:37:57 GMT -6
Hey, I was just agreeing with you, Beto. You do sound like a snowflake.
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Post by fantom on Sept 15, 2019 10:48:07 GMT -6
Ok The COP in me has some questions. What was this "racial" slur? What context was it said? In this day and age where racial and racism is thrown around just because someone doesn't like someone else or someone else's politics I look at these with a colored lens. Having been accused of this 100s of times simply because I wore a Blue uniform, a badge and carried a gun. I need more info. I also do not subscribe to the punish all for the mistakes of one or the few. Punish the offender(s). You have the video, you know who they are. This isn't a case of not knowing who did it so punish all until someone rats the group out. This is cut and dry. Kick the offender off team, why punish the kids that didn't act like motards? I agree I try to keep my kids off social media, but its hard. What doesn't make it any better is when a pro athlete like Antonio Brown calls his Boss a racial slur and instead of punishment he gets 20 million dollars...kids see this... Also rappers and other entertainers can throw around the "N" word all day and they get a pass, because of the color of their skin. Isn't that the definition of racism? This is poor leadership! No it wasn't. I've seen the video. If they'd played that game there was a good chance that there would have been a riot. |
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Post by 19delta on Sept 15, 2019 12:15:34 GMT -6
The video is 9 seconds long and it is almost undecipherable. And it is pretty clear that the kid doing the talking is not a member of Mensa. They cancelled a football game over this?
Is the team that Poquoson was supposed to play (York) predominantly African-American? It looks like Poquoson has quite a few African-American players.
There must be more to the story. Again...I see one dumb-ass kid who can barely form coherent sentences. This resulted in a football game bing cancelled?
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Post by fantom on Sept 15, 2019 13:43:20 GMT -6
The video is 9 seconds long and it is almost undecipherable. And it is pretty clear that the kid doing the talking is not a member of Mensa. They cancelled a football game over this? Is the team that Poquoson was supposed to play (York) predominantly African-American? It looks like Poquoson has quite a few African-American players. There must be more to the story. Again...I see one dumb-ass kid who can barely form coherent sentences. This resulted in a football game bing cancelled? Poquoson is about 97% white. York isn't. Poquoson has a reputation as a "sundown" community going back years. It looks like the school leadership is trying to clean up their reputation but the old school Bubbas aren't interested. I'm not sure that we saw the same video. The one that I saw was longer than 9 seconds and when the kid kept repeating "Phuk n-----s" it came through pretty clearly. |
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Post by 19delta on Sept 15, 2019 13:53:46 GMT -6
The video is 9 seconds long and it is almost undecipherable. And it is pretty clear that the kid doing the talking is not a member of Mensa. They cancelled a football game over this? Is the team that Poquoson was supposed to play (York) predominantly African-American? It looks like Poquoson has quite a few African-American players. There must be more to the story. Again...I see one dumb-ass kid who can barely form coherent sentences. This resulted in a football game bing cancelled? Poquoson is about 97% white. York isn't. Poquoson has a reputation as a "sundown" community going back years. It looks like the school leadership is trying to clean up their reputation but the old school Bubbas aren't interested. I'm not sure that we saw the same video. The one that I saw was longer than 9 seconds and when the kid kept repeating "Phuk n-----s" it came through pretty clearly. There's two videos in the link provided above. The first is a 2-minute news segment. The other is a 9-second video of some white kid dropping the "N"-bomb but I can't really tell what he is yelling about. Again...I'm not trying to minimize what the kid did, but it just seems excessive to cancel an entire game over a couple dumbasses. How about just kicking those kids off the team? |
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Post by wildcatslbcoach24 on Sept 15, 2019 16:34:59 GMT -6
Poquoson is about 97% white. York isn't. Poquoson has a reputation as a "sundown" community going back years. It looks like the school leadership is trying to clean up their reputation but the old school Bubbas aren't interested. I'm not sure that we saw the same video. The one that I saw was longer than 9 seconds and when the kid kept repeating "Phuk n-----s" it came through pretty clearly. There's two videos in the link provided above. The first is a 2-minute news segment. The other is a 9-second video of some white kid dropping the "N"-bomb but I can't really tell what he is yelling about. Again...I'm not trying to minimize what the kid did, but it just seems excessive to cancel an entire game over a couple dumbasses. How about just kicking those kids off the team? Because I have seen school wide knock down, drag out fights/ riots for much less serious offenses than this, and I am talking pre - social media era, too. I have seen parents and adults fight kids at schools over what has been posted on social media. The stuff spreads like wildfire and can lead to fights, racist/ homophobic chants, and violence. I mean you can look at the Elder / St. X basketball game last year to see how this stuff gets outta hand. www.google.com/amp/s/www.wlwt.com/amp/article/elder-students-heard-chanting-racial-homophobic-slurs-during-basketball-game/16651510Was involved in a pre social media game as a player back in the early 2000s where other team was making racist remarks all game and at the end of the game they lined up for a KOR and had their 3 biggest guys jump our kicker while yelling $@@& the dirty (racial Mexican slur). Led into an all out stands and sideline clearing brawl where the other team’s HC actually led what looked like Pickett’s charge on our sideline. |
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Post by klaby on Sept 16, 2019 6:43:24 GMT -6
Ok The COP in me has some questions. What was this "racial" slur? What context was it said? In this day and age where racial and racism is thrown around just because someone doesn't like someone else or someone else's politics I look at these with a colored lens. Having been accused of this 100s of times simply because I wore a Blue uniform, a badge and carried a gun. I need more info. I also do not subscribe to the punish all for the mistakes of one or the few. Punish the offender(s). You have the video, you know who they are. This isn't a case of not knowing who did it so punish all until someone rats the group out. This is cut and dry. Kick the offender off team, why punish the kids that didn't act like motards? I agree I try to keep my kids off social media, but its hard. What doesn't make it any better is when a pro athlete like Antonio Brown calls his Boss a racial slur and instead of punishment he gets 20 million dollars...kids see this... Also rappers and other entertainers can throw around the "N" word all day and they get a pass, because of the color of their skin. Isn't that the definition of racism? This is poor leadership! What in the covefefe apologist type of excuse is this? A district wouldn’t go to this extreme unless there was serious racist, religiously intolerant, and/or homophobic language used by multiple players; most likely using contextual clues for the area this happened, the N word and other slurs were used. Stop apologizing for “casual” racism and normalizing with boys will say stupid s$&& excuse! Those “stupid” boys grow up to be men who exercise this prejudice and racist outlook on life that affects them, their families and people of color around them. They grow up and rally on college campuses with tiki torches yelling “blood and soil”; more insidiously they often gain positions of power where they have the fate of people of color in their hands. All this technology has done is forcing people to see the ugly underbelly of America’s race problems. I don’t think they would forfeit the gate ticket for a few bigots/ racists making comments; most likely it was enough guys to be suspended that they decided to forfeit. Whether you realize it or not you are creating an excuse for abhorrent behavior. The use of racial slurs has been used to oppress ethnic and racial minority groups in America for centuries. You might say I am a “snowflake” about this, but we live in a day in age where we still have lynchings and the murder of people of color in America daily. Racism in America is not a symptom of something wrong in America, but rather that the system was created to oppress large swaths of the population. It was engrained in our national identity as far back as 1619 and is still deeply entrenched under our cultural veneer of a “color blind” society. The use of the N-word by rappers and black / Afro-Latino people is following a long line of re-appropriation of racial slurs in America it’s similar to how Polish, Irish, and Italian communities turned racial slurs, back when these ethnic groups were not considered “white”. For historical context this only happened as recently the late 70s / early 80s when WASPS vested white privilege to these ethnic groups in return for fighting against bussing and the next wave of Deseg. I would love for us to unpack this in a civilized discussion and could provide anyone interested in learning more with tons of academic resources, books, and other articles. Ok clearly you cant read. I said punish the offender. And you are assuming facts not presented, which is the problem. And you are the problem by making excuses for the N word, because its approved by your culture. You don't get it both ways. You are the one excusing abhorrent behavior not me. I prefer to deal with real world evidence, not assumptions, and I consider any use of the N word offensive. You are clearly in the "I am a man of color therefore I cant be racists and I can say whatever I want because it only offends me if someone who doesn't look like me say it". |
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Post by fantom on Sept 16, 2019 6:50:11 GMT -6
I posted this so that coaches could use it as a warning about what can happen because of social media. At this point I can't see this discussion going anywhere good.
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