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Post by raiderpirates on Aug 3, 2008 13:59:04 GMT -6
The bubble being used is a great example.
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Aug 3, 2008 14:04:41 GMT -6
Coach, I read a really good article by "spreadattack" I think he's the guy who does the Smartfootball blog. Anyway,in this article he talks about the theory of blocking with 1 more and how the defense can always bring that 1 more than the offense. While everyone knows that this is true in theory, there is a point that the defense will not bring 1 more than you have. He says that when you block with 5,6 or 7 the defense is almost assured of following up with that 1 more. The percentage of bringing that 1 more goes way down the more that the offense keeps in. He said he doesn't really know why, that it might be human nature that causes a defensive coach to rarely blitz 10-11 people. I know I wouldn't send 10, but I'm an old guy.
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Post by raiderpirates on Aug 3, 2008 14:14:36 GMT -6
Unless you face Cisar and he double Bears you so both ends of the OL overload because you play a tight formation and he doesn't see a beater at TE.
In the article by Chris he demonstrates how it is actually better to show one thing and do the opposite. Load up like it's a blitz and peel back, or fake coverage drops and come in with the linemen getting reads haywire.
Screens should work either way, if they get a lot of depth on their drops it simply turns into a long handoff and if they blitz it can really move through vacated zones or assignments.
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Post by coachweigelt on Aug 3, 2008 14:25:49 GMT -6
Arraider, was that comment with no coverage under 5 yards ironic?
Because if not I love to have that defense against me anytime. We are a 2x2 Spread and the only "long" route I have in my playbook is an 18 Yard corner route! Almost everything else is at 5-7 yards. This works well for us and we are taking approx. 10-12 snaps every drive (heck that is even more as some running teams do).
Coach, I would love to see that Offense work. Will you let us know?
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Post by raiderpirates on Aug 3, 2008 14:52:40 GMT -6
Five or six is enough. I'd only blitz more to stop certain runs.
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Post by airraider on Aug 3, 2008 15:14:25 GMT -6
The bubble being used is a great example. Yea, but it doesnt constitute "alot of screens"..
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Post by airraider on Aug 3, 2008 15:25:42 GMT -6
Arraider, was that comment with no coverage under 5 yards ironic? Because if not I love to have that defense against me anytime. We are a 2x2 Spread and the only "long" route I have in my playbook is an 18 Yard corner route! Almost everything else is at 5-7 yards. This works well for us and we are taking approx. 10-12 snaps every drive (heck that is even more as some running teams do). Coach, I would love to see that Offense work. Will you let us know? no.. thats very serious.. well.. if we are in cov 2.. then the corners who are only covering the flats may cover a short route.. but in our base.. cov 3.. we do not cover anything under 5 yards.. if a team wants to throw a 3 yard route all day and can catch it and take the hits over and over again.. then they will just score every drive.. now, we will not stay in cov 3 if they do this.. but still.. we also take this same approach with our offense.. we WILL take the short routes.. we want to be more physical than the other team.. we feel like/hope we can catch the short ball and make a guy miss.. and at the same time.. allow them the short pass and take their head off.. In any zone coverage you cant cover everything.. but you are a lot better covering as much deep as you can.. those being open will go for TD's more than the flats..
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Post by coachweigelt on Aug 4, 2008 3:32:26 GMT -6
Last sentence is very true!
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Post by CoachCP on Aug 4, 2008 11:57:56 GMT -6
I think you need to run the screen and draw because defensive linemen will simply tee off on you. Change the cadence works so much. But they only think one thing then, get the QB. The linebackers think only one thing, get the QB.
Not only does it slow down the pass rush, but it keeps the defense honest in their pass reads. They need to know their drops. Follow rules. Make reads. It slows them down.
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Post by airraider on Aug 4, 2008 13:11:04 GMT -6
I think you need to run the screen and draw because defensive linemen will simply tee off on you. Change the cadence works so much. But they only think one thing then, get the QB. The linebackers think only one thing, get the QB. Not only does it slow down the pass rush, but it keeps the defense honest in their pass reads. They need to know their drops. Follow rules. Make reads. It slows them down. I agree that you need to run screens.. but the post above made it sound like you needed to run an above average amount of screens..
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Post by indian1 on Aug 5, 2008 15:41:19 GMT -6
Love this offense. We run something similar. The most important part of making this work will be your pass pro. If you can protect your QB this will work. Most guys that try this and fail do so because their pass pro scheme is no good or they can't execute it.
Lots of great posts on this by the way.
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Post by raiderpirates on Aug 6, 2008 9:49:29 GMT -6
My preference is to cover early so the big play is nullified. Get depth to see the ball, run to it, hit someone.
Once you slow the other team down like that you can go to other items.
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