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Post by s73 on Mar 27, 2019 15:20:21 GMT -6
Is implementing cell phone breaks for the AZ Cardinals players during meeting times b/c he says their attention spans are way too short.
Maybe I'm getting old but this seems like another example of lowering expectations. These dudes are HIGHLY PAID professionals. Seems utterly stupid to me. Curious what take others have on it, b/c I'm sure (like all things) it will filter down.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 27, 2019 15:25:31 GMT -6
Is implementing cell phone breaks for the AZ Cardinals players during meeting times b/c he says their attention spans are way too short. Maybe I'm getting old but this seems like another example of lowering expectations. These dudes are HIGHLY PAID professionals. Seems utterly stupid to me. Curious what take others have on it, b/c I'm sure (like all things) it will filter down. I agree... And, cell phones are making their attention spans shorter. Yes, let them get up, grab a drink, stretch, WHATEVER. But put the cell phones away; they're a distraction.
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Post by bluboy on Mar 27, 2019 15:41:13 GMT -6
IMHO, he should make all the players put their cell phones into a box outside any/all meeting rooms. Players can get thier phones back when they leave.
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Post by coachddwebb on Mar 27, 2019 15:49:31 GMT -6
Unfortunately it is happening in a lot of industries, when there are long meetings or even durning conferences as soon as there is a break everyone pulls out their phones. Heck I see guys at coaching clinic pull out their phones as soon as the walk out of the room. He is just calling it what it is, but I do feel if you can't sit in a meet for at least an hour without looking at or thinking about your phone you do have problem.
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Post by s73 on Mar 27, 2019 15:57:40 GMT -6
Unfortunately it is happening in a lot of industries, when there are long meetings or even durning conferences as soon as there is a break everyone pulls out their phones. Heck I see guys at coaching clinic pull out their phones as soon as the walk out of the room. He is just calling it what it is, but I do feel if you can't sit in a meet for at least an hour without looking at or thinking about your phone you do have problem. Well, according to the article he was breaking every 20-30 minutes. That's crazy. I see a 10-15 min break on the hour & if dudes want to jump on phones, go for it. Those breaks are to take a break period. Take a piss, stretch your legs, etc. These breaks are specifically so dudes can go on their social media. Every 20-30. That's insane.
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Post by agap on Mar 27, 2019 16:05:16 GMT -6
Wasn't he also giving cell phone breaks at Texas Tech?
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 27, 2019 16:58:20 GMT -6
Bro, you got no swag.
#BoomersSuck #ShineWhileWeGrind #Kliffs4Realz
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Post by wolverine55 on Mar 27, 2019 17:35:22 GMT -6
I'll be honest. I think Kingsbury is a lot of style with very little substance. I think this is simply an attempt to sound cool in today's society. The NFL workday is generally 8-10 hours, correct? No way players weren't already having access to their cell phones during meetings and throughout the day anyway.
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Post by KYCoach2331 on Mar 27, 2019 17:40:33 GMT -6
If he called it a break and didn’t label it a cell phone break it wouldn’t be a big deal.
I’m sure his meeting lengths have been research backed.
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Post by fantom on Mar 27, 2019 18:08:18 GMT -6
You coach the players that you have. If this makes the players more attentive then give them cell phone breaks. They're not aschool team and he's not there to teach life lessons.
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Post by CoachJohnsonMN on Mar 27, 2019 18:10:16 GMT -6
I watched Mike Tice grab a high school coach's cell phone out of his hand at a clinic & throw it in the garbage. He told the group he does (did) the same thing to his players if they're on their phones. Hell yeah...then again he didn't last very long with the Vikes.
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Post by oldman61 on Mar 27, 2019 18:13:06 GMT -6
Have had the opportunity to sit in on some DI college position meetings, they all have taken a break around 20 minutes for 5 minutes. Every kid got up, walked into the hall and got on their phone/social media for 5 minutes, and then came back into the meeting room. If the meeting went long enough they did it again 20 minutes later.
As someone mentioned because someone labeled it a phone break instead of a “potty” break everyone is up in arms about it.
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Post by CoachP on Mar 27, 2019 18:15:10 GMT -6
The wider issue (which the article mentioned but didn't expand) is that they/we are addicted to ours phones and social media.
I know it is blowing it out of proportion but we wouldn't give breaks to serve a different addiction (gambling break, smoking break, alcohol consumption break, drug break) etc etc.
What I would have respected is some kind of announcement on how they plan to tackle cell phone/social media addiction.
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 27, 2019 18:16:32 GMT -6
A lot of places had/have smoke breaks.
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Post by s73 on Mar 27, 2019 18:52:54 GMT -6
If he called it a break and didn’t label it a cell phone break it wouldn’t be a big deal. I’m sure his meeting lengths have been research backed. The problem is if you read the article he specifically states, I see them "itching to get at those things". They're grown men, suck it up 'til the meetings done. Let's put it in a different light. Ask your HC / principal / whomever is in authority to you in the middle of a meeting if they can stop the meeting b/c your itching to get to your social media. Or, for those of you who attend church, hold a meeting with the pastoral group to see if they can implement cell phone breaks during services, may twice an hour. Maybe our veterans can negotiate "phone breaks" w/ the Taliban? Obviously I'm being facetious but you get the point. Make it through a friggin meeting man. I have no issue w/ a break, but when KK says the break is BECAUSE I see the TWITCHING TO GET AT THOSE THINGS, well.....that's a problem. JMO.
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Post by oldman61 on Mar 27, 2019 19:12:50 GMT -6
If he called it a break and didn’t label it a cell phone break it wouldn’t be a big deal. I’m sure his meeting lengths have been research backed. The problem is if you read the article he specifically states, I see them "itching to get at those things". They're grown men, suck it up 'til the meetings done. Let's put it in a different light. Ask your HC / principal / whomever is in authority to you in the middle of a meeting if they can stop the meeting b/c your itching to get to your social media. Or, for those of you who attend church, hold a meeting with the pastoral group to see if they can implement cell phone breaks during services, may twice an hour. Maybe our veterans can negotiate "phone breaks" w/ the Taliban? Obviously I'm being facetious but you get the point. Make it through a friggin meeting man. I have no issue w/ a break, but when KK says the break is BECAUSE I see the TWITCHING TO GET AT THOSE THINGS, well.....that's a problem. JMO. We have a professional development meeting once a week. It is between 45 minutes and an hour long. We are a big school so we have many staff members in attendance, and if you look around you see many TEACHERS on their phone as someone is presenting. How many times do you see someone having a conversation with someone and they pull their phone out to tespind to a text while SOMEONE is already speaking to their face, or someone reads their Apple Watch. And it’s not just kids I see adults doing it all the time. As an above poster mentioned, it’s an addiction, I believe what many people are saying is rather than fight it, find a way to be productive while working around it. How many people to you see texting/checking their phone while driving? A quick google search says 1 in 4 car accidents are related to phone usage. www.edgarsnyder.com/car-accident/cause-of-accident/cell-phone/cell-phone-statistics.html This isn’t just a kid problem.
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Post by s73 on Mar 27, 2019 21:21:46 GMT -6
The problem is if you read the article he specifically states, I see them "itching to get at those things". They're grown men, suck it up 'til the meetings done. Let's put it in a different light. Ask your HC / principal / whomever is in authority to you in the middle of a meeting if they can stop the meeting b/c your itching to get to your social media. Or, for those of you who attend church, hold a meeting with the pastoral group to see if they can implement cell phone breaks during services, may twice an hour. Maybe our veterans can negotiate "phone breaks" w/ the Taliban? Obviously I'm being facetious but you get the point. Make it through a friggin meeting man. I have no issue w/ a break, but when KK says the break is BECAUSE I see the TWITCHING TO GET AT THOSE THINGS, well.....that's a problem. JMO. We have a professional development meeting once a week. It is between 45 minutes and an hour long. We are a big school so we have many staff members in attendance, and if you look around you see many TEACHERS on their phone as someone is presenting. How many times do you see someone having a conversation with someone and they pull their phone out to tespind to a text while SOMEONE is already speaking to their face, or someone reads their Apple Watch. And it’s not just kids I see adults doing it all the time. As an above poster mentioned, it’s an addiction, I believe what many people are saying is rather than fight it, find a way to be productive while working around it. How many people to you see texting/checking their phone while driving? A quick google search says 1 in 4 car accidents are related to phone usage. www.edgarsnyder.com/car-accident/cause-of-accident/cell-phone/cell-phone-statistics.html This isn’t just a kid problem. Absolutely agree, not just a kid problem. It's societal. Where I disagree is the whole "let's work around it". I believe you "practice how you play and you play how you practice". They ain't getting phone breaks during games, need to focus for 2 + hours, they need to practice that way to be most effective. JMO.
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Post by bleefb on Mar 27, 2019 22:08:02 GMT -6
They ain't getting phone breaks during games, need to focus for 2 + hours, they need to practice that way to be most effective. JMO.
Are you sure?
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Post by s73 on Mar 27, 2019 22:30:00 GMT -6
They ain't getting phone breaks during games, need to focus for 2 + hours, they need to practice that way to be most effective. JMO.
Are you sure? LOL, as I was typing it I was thinking the exact same thing. Hopefully that's not the next shoe to drop.
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Post by agap on Mar 27, 2019 22:46:30 GMT -6
The problem is if you read the article he specifically states, I see them "itching to get at those things". They're grown men, suck it up 'til the meetings done. Let's put it in a different light. Ask your HC / principal / whomever is in authority to you in the middle of a meeting if they can stop the meeting b/c your itching to get to your social media. Or, for those of you who attend church, hold a meeting with the pastoral group to see if they can implement cell phone breaks during services, may twice an hour. Maybe our veterans can negotiate "phone breaks" w/ the Taliban? Obviously I'm being facetious but you get the point. Make it through a friggin meeting man. I have no issue w/ a break, but when KK says the break is BECAUSE I see the TWITCHING TO GET AT THOSE THINGS, well.....that's a problem. JMO. We have a professional development meeting once a week. It is between 45 minutes and an hour long. We are a big school so we have many staff members in attendance, and if you look around you see many TEACHERS on their phone as someone is presenting. How many times do you see someone having a conversation with someone and they pull their phone out to tespind to a text while SOMEONE is already speaking to their face, or someone reads their Apple Watch. And it’s not just kids I see adults doing it all the time. As an above poster mentioned, it’s an addiction, I believe what many people are saying is rather than fight it, find a way to be productive while working around it. How many people to you see texting/checking their phone while driving? A quick google search says 1 in 4 car accidents are related to phone usage. www.edgarsnyder.com/car-accident/cause-of-accident/cell-phone/cell-phone-statistics.html This isn’t just a kid problem. I see teachers on their phones all the time during meetings. I laugh when they complain about students, yet they do the same thing during staff meetings. The main reason I still have a slider phone is because I don't want to be like everyone else and constantly look at my cell phone.
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Post by fantom on Mar 27, 2019 23:02:56 GMT -6
We have a professional development meeting once a week. It is between 45 minutes and an hour long. We are a big school so we have many staff members in attendance, and if you look around you see many TEACHERS on their phone as someone is presenting. How many times do you see someone having a conversation with someone and they pull their phone out to tespind to a text while SOMEONE is already speaking to their face, or someone reads their Apple Watch. And it’s not just kids I see adults doing it all the time. As an above poster mentioned, it’s an addiction, I believe what many people are saying is rather than fight it, find a way to be productive while working around it. How many people to you see texting/checking their phone while driving? A quick google search says 1 in 4 car accidents are related to phone usage. www.edgarsnyder.com/car-accident/cause-of-accident/cell-phone/cell-phone-statistics.html This isn’t just a kid problem. I see teachers on their phones all the time during meetings. I laugh when they complain about students, yet they do the same thing during staff meetings. The main reason I still have a slider phone is because I don't want to be like everyone else and constantly look at my cell phone. IN fairness there's not a lot of informative or interesting stuff going on during meetings.
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Post by CS on Mar 28, 2019 3:45:14 GMT -6
The wider issue (which the article mentioned but didn't expand) is that they/we are addicted to ours phones and social media. I know it is blowing it out of proportion but we wouldn't give breaks to serve a different addiction (gambling break, smoking break, alcohol consumption break, drug break) etc etc. What I would have respected is some kind of announcement on how they plan to tackle cell phone/social media addiction. So where you are from you have never heard of a smoke break??
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Post by CS on Mar 28, 2019 3:56:26 GMT -6
We have a professional development meeting once a week. It is between 45 minutes and an hour long. We are a big school so we have many staff members in attendance, and if you look around you see many TEACHERS on their phone as someone is presenting. How many times do you see someone having a conversation with someone and they pull their phone out to tespind to a text while SOMEONE is already speaking to their face, or someone reads their Apple Watch. And it’s not just kids I see adults doing it all the time. As an above poster mentioned, it’s an addiction, I believe what many people are saying is rather than fight it, find a way to be productive while working around it. How many people to you see texting/checking their phone while driving? A quick google search says 1 in 4 car accidents are related to phone usage. www.edgarsnyder.com/car-accident/cause-of-accident/cell-phone/cell-phone-statistics.html This isn’t just a kid problem. Absolutely agree, not just a kid problem. It's societal. Where I disagree is the whole "let's work around it". I believe you "practice how you play and you play how you practice". They ain't getting phone breaks during games, need to focus for 2 + hours, they need to practice that way to be most effective. JMO. There is a difference between a game having your attention and sitting in a meeting room for hours on end. As far as the comment about being on phones during pro dev. I do that sh!t all of the time. I’m not sure if it’s the same everywhere but some of that crap they make you sit through is god awful. I’ve sat through multiple sessions where the guy/gal just read the PowerPoint bullets verbatim. There are problems with society and kids are addicted to their phones but this Kingbury thing isn’t a big deal. So he gives them a mental break....so what?
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Post by bulldogsdc on Mar 28, 2019 5:49:50 GMT -6
I check my phone ALL DAY!!!!
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Post by 53 on Mar 28, 2019 6:08:06 GMT -6
25 mins is supposed to be the sweet spot for the length of a meeting anyways.
Seems like this is just click bait.
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Post by CoachSP on Mar 28, 2019 7:26:58 GMT -6
If he called it a break and didn’t label it a cell phone break it wouldn’t be a big deal. I’m sure his meeting lengths have been research backed. The problem is if you read the article he specifically states, I see them "itching to get at those things". They're grown men, suck it up 'til the meetings done. Let's put it in a different light. Ask your HC / principal / whomever is in authority to you in the middle of a meeting if they can stop the meeting b/c your itching to get to your social media. Or, for those of you who attend church, hold a meeting with the pastoral group to see if they can implement cell phone breaks during services, may twice an hour. Maybe our veterans can negotiate "phone breaks" w/ the Taliban? Obviously I'm being facetious but you get the point. Make it through a friggin meeting man. I have no issue w/ a break, but when KK says the break is BECAUSE I see the TWITCHING TO GET AT THOSE THINGS, well.....that's a problem. JMO. Sports media is going downhill. This is a non issue. These players do not have a "regular" job. So the rules of their world are probably much different than any of ours. Facetious or not, comparing a football meeting to war is downright ridiculous.
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Post by spreadattack on Mar 28, 2019 7:28:31 GMT -6
There's nothing wrong with 5 minute breaks every 20-25 minutes (especially for players and their attention spans -- not exactly PhD students). How often do the people posting on an internet coaching message board go 30-40 minutes without checking the internet/their phone/etc.?
That said, his explanation of how he needs to let them get their social media "fix" definitely made it sound ridiculous
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Post by s73 on Mar 28, 2019 7:38:38 GMT -6
The problem is if you read the article he specifically states, I see them "itching to get at those things". They're grown men, suck it up 'til the meetings done. Let's put it in a different light. Ask your HC / principal / whomever is in authority to you in the middle of a meeting if they can stop the meeting b/c your itching to get to your social media. Or, for those of you who attend church, hold a meeting with the pastoral group to see if they can implement cell phone breaks during services, may twice an hour. Maybe our veterans can negotiate "phone breaks" w/ the Taliban? Obviously I'm being facetious but you get the point. Make it through a friggin meeting man. I have no issue w/ a break, but when KK says the break is BECAUSE I see the TWITCHING TO GET AT THOSE THINGS, well.....that's a problem. JMO. Sports media is going downhill. This is a non issue. These players do not have a "regular" job. So the rules of their world are probably much different than any of ours. Facetious or not, comparing a football meeting to war is downright ridiculous. Agreed on final part. However, these guys shelf life for playing FB is an average of 2-3 years. If we can run meetings and practices for longer periods w/ hS kids and prep them for life after FB I would think the NFL could easily do the same. JMO. If it works, great. I just don't agree w/ lowering expectations. Take driving for example. Are we as society going to get to a point where we need to pull over every 20 minutes b/c we can't focus on the road long enough w/o checking SM? Then again, maybe we should I guess w/ all the accidents. Maybe I'm swimming upstream here & the expectation now is the SM addiction is incurable and we just have to adapt to allow for it. Just feels like giving up to me.
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Post by planck on Mar 28, 2019 7:56:12 GMT -6
People like to blame cell phones for shortened attention spans, but people were dozing off and not paying attention in meetings for hundreds of years before the invention of a cell phone. News flash: if you're having a meeting and not engaging people, they probably aren't paying that much attention.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 28, 2019 8:04:18 GMT -6
When we showed game film to team we would stop at halftime and give them five minute break to stretch legs, go to bathroom, get a drink of water, or yes, check their phones if they chose before coming back to watch 2nd Half and some upcoming opponents tape. Hopefully it helped them "focus" knowing they would get a short break after ~45 minutes and they'd be done in another 45 minutes to an hour. Heck I didn't like watching tape all the way through, ours or opponents, took breaks at least every half. Often on Saturday afternoons I'd do a half, watch some CFB, then go back to film. Why would I have kids sit there in the dark for two hours straight? Dark is very conducive to Zs anyway. This is how we handle film sessions; get through a half of film, take a five minute break and then finish it up. And, we're usually looking at around 45 minutes as well. I think we've got an issue on our hands if people can't be expected to pay attention and interact for 45 minutes. We're not just sitting there jawing at them either; we're broken up into positions and continually interacting with the kids throughout that space of time. Kingsbury is a high level coach and knows his players. However, we're not going to stop a film session every 20 minutes so the kids can look at Post Malone's instagram account.
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