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Post by phantom on May 16, 2006 19:07:07 GMT -6
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Post by bulldog on May 17, 2006 0:14:01 GMT -6
I count 15 coaches - including the kicker coach! Unbelieveable for a HS team. We have four coaches on our Varsity staff and we all coach both ways and share some positions. There are some teams around here that have enough players that they only go one-way. And those programs tend to have separate offensive and defensive staffs. But Camden County has a roster that is double our size and I coach at a school with 2500 kids (I'm only counting their 11th and 12th graders)! I guess California is different than Georgia.
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Post by jake831 on May 17, 2006 1:39:58 GMT -6
wow is that a public school? ive only see facilities looking like that at catholic schools, that weight room looked huge!
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Post by coachjd on May 17, 2006 4:59:22 GMT -6
They don't compare!! That is amazing. I bet there is a little pressure to win at that school.
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Post by knighter on May 17, 2006 5:00:32 GMT -6
would have to say mine are below average.
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Post by tog on May 17, 2006 5:43:53 GMT -6
once our field house is built our coaching offices will be similar to that the grand football hallway is purty nice-ours just looks like, ummmmm a hallway
our weightroom will be about that size, just more square lookin
our locker room is about the same
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Post by baraboo99 on May 17, 2006 6:48:15 GMT -6
My office- The corner of my apartment with my computer Our locker room- We only get locker rooms for games, most of the time we change in the corner of the stands. Weightroom- A small room in the basement of the hockey arena that we have to share with 3 hockey teams, a power lifting team, 2 wrestling teams, a boxing club, a thai kick boxing club, a brazilian ju jitsu club and a finnish baseball team.
Count your blessings that you get all the nice stuff you have! I'm not complaining at all about what we have to deal with, its one of the things that make my players better.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2006 6:54:57 GMT -6
We have a great weight room, top of the line, state of the art, custom weights and our logo on clean platforms, etc.
But after all the money put into that we have little else.
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Post by moose18 on May 17, 2006 7:04:31 GMT -6
My weightroom is a closet with no windows and no ventilation. Most of the equipment is older than dirt and really not up to standards, but if I pregnant dog to the admins about it they would just tell me that its unsafe in there so no more lifting.
I have two offices, my apartment and my car. But I only have one paid assistant coach, so there isn't much need for a staff room or anything. We hold our team meetings in the art room because they won't allow us in the academic wing.
Seeing websites like that are depressing to me, I'm ready to move to where football is important. Starting to work on the teaching degree (I'm not certified) and then in a year or two I'll be begging you southern boys for a job! That is of course unless someone will hire me without teaching credentials!
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Post by wingtol on May 17, 2006 7:46:27 GMT -6
That is one of the greatest examples of overkill I have ever seen. I have been at major D-1 schools that would be jelous of that place. I understand people want the best for their players but you need to keep it in perspective, they are high school kids! It's like those idots on MTV who spen 3 or 4 hundered thousand dollars on their kids 16th birthday parites. What happens when those kids goto college and their facilities are worse than their high school, just seems to send the wrong message to kids now a days when you are spending multi millons of dollars on a football facility. Complete overkill!
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Post by tog on May 17, 2006 8:04:21 GMT -6
doesn't even compare to wasting money on a birthday party
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Post by wingtol on May 17, 2006 9:00:54 GMT -6
Yes it does. Totally throws things out of perspective for kids they don't learn to value stuff they think they are entitled to stuff instead of appreciating what they have.
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Post by knighter on May 17, 2006 9:10:59 GMT -6
no, this is totally different. my daughter's 16th bithday party, and a HS football facility have absolutley nothing in common. if it is a source of pride that this hs has nice facilities for athletics, more power to them. wish i were so lucky to have the same. last time i checked the money spent came from the taxpayers of the community, and they had to approve of it being built. there is no sense of entitlement for the kids, they should be, and probably are, proud of the facilities they have for football. after all football probably pays for nearly every other sport to exist being that the gates are huge by comparison to other sports. i know my football money has paid for several pieces of equipment and uniforms of other teams here.
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Post by tog on May 17, 2006 9:25:18 GMT -6
nothing wrong with spending money on something positive that helps build young leaders good facilities do that
i know, the old "they should be spending money on the school, textbooks, etc" argument is coming, but I have found, places that have nice facilities and win, usually have top notch academics to go with it, athletic success PULLS the whole school forward as the athletes that are the leaders in the school make things work right
blowing money on something fleeting and trivial just to show off the bling bling aspect of your life is kinda stupid, but hey, capitalism has it's silly moments as well
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Post by coachveer on May 17, 2006 9:55:37 GMT -6
Has schools academic needs been met? I mean does the band have it's instrument's, the science class have it's beakers, and does the math class have all it's calculators. If the answer is yes to all those questions then great. The community should be proud of themselves. That is a wonderful facility they built. It is just awesome when communities can provide for all of their students academic and athletic needs. If the answer is no..then who did they really build it for? The kids..or themselves.
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Post by phantom on May 17, 2006 10:19:47 GMT -6
I've been to the school web site and they don't seem to be wanting for much.
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Post by biggroff on May 17, 2006 12:51:36 GMT -6
Quote from Jake831
"wow is that a public school? ive only see facilities looking like that at catholic schools, that weight room looked huge "
You must not coach in Illinois! I coach at a catholic school most of the catholic schools I know in Illinois have a budget that would only pay for the floor in those pictures.
Driscoll Catholic in Addison Illinois is a 5 time state champions (2001-2006) and they don't have poor facilities....They have NO FACILITIES! Joliet Catholic- 12 time state champlion in Illinois has no football field and they lift off campus due to lack of facilities.
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Post by cqmiller on May 17, 2006 13:25:08 GMT -6
They need to get some famous/rich donors to the program. I know at my school, 5 years ago, the HC went deep into the alumni pool, and got a HUGE car dealer that was a graduate, and got him to donate over 70,000 to COMPLETELY renovate the "dungeon" that used to be the weightroom in the basement of the school.
Now it has a 64" Plasma, and a coaches conference/meeting room attached to it. It's really nice. Didn't get enough money to build that Mansion shown above, but with enough work, I'm sure public OR private schools could get upgrades for their facilities.
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Post by utchuckd on May 17, 2006 18:33:10 GMT -6
I would guess a lot of the money came from private donors. It's a beautiful facility, but I would have a hard time justifying building it. Maybe that's cause things are so depressed economically that I have a different perspective.
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Post by toprowguy on May 17, 2006 19:12:45 GMT -6
This is a high School....Oh my God.
The kids must be disappointted when they go to college.
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Post by bigdaddyd on May 17, 2006 19:28:32 GMT -6
This is just a case of a school that cares for their athletics, I applaud the school for the outstanding athletic facilities.
I think it gives the kids a sense of pride. I see nothing wrong with a school spending cash on athletics, as long as the other departments are taken care of...
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Post by bigdaddyd on May 17, 2006 19:33:43 GMT -6
I'm at the JUCO level now, and our facilities where renovated last year. Nothing like this though, in June a ballet is going to be pass for a new 8 million dollar stadium. Until then, we have nothing on this school.
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Post by airman on May 17, 2006 19:46:23 GMT -6
guess we know where the money is spent at that school.
and people wonder why we are falling behind the rest of the world in education.
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Post by paydirt18 on May 17, 2006 21:45:21 GMT -6
Im still relatively young, but I can't remeber the last time I watched MTV. That being said when my kid turns 16 I will not go all crazy for his day.
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Post by goldenbear76 on May 18, 2006 0:31:25 GMT -6
I have to agree, there are more important things in this world than multimillion dollar high school facilities. Am I the only one who likes his weight room kinda grungy? I mean.. I want new equipment, but I want the smell of sweat and stink in my weight room, makes me think that there's some hard work goin on in there. I don't want my weight room lookin TOOO new. Plus, come on guys...they have the school emblems on the bench pads, thats just insane.
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Post by cqmiller on May 18, 2006 5:59:41 GMT -6
we are behind in education for totally different reasons than money. A lot of countries spend less money than the US for education, but still beat us to death in testing. That is more of a discipline issue for another board.
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Post by baraboo99 on May 18, 2006 7:37:53 GMT -6
To see if their academics compare to their athletics, they were 56th in the state of Georgia in SAT scores out of 158 ranked.
The big reason why foreign schools can spend less money and provide a higher level of education is that athletics is not a school sponsored activity. The kids have their gym period, and thats the only athletics that the school provides. I have talked to many teachers while I have been here and they all say the same thing, kids are in school to learn not to play sports. If a kid wants to play sports here, then he has to pay the fee and join a private club. He gets no breaks from teachers because of practice, nor is he allowed to take classes lower then his estimated intelligence level.
I think this is good because only the really disciplined kids will come out for my team because they have to get all their school work done and be able to put in work for football on his own time. Its own of the reasons why I'm proud of the two players I have coached who have gone on to college in the states (Stanford and Valparaiso).
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Post by wingtol on May 18, 2006 7:57:36 GMT -6
Goldenbear, I am glad to see some agree with me. I agree with you I like having it a little grungy and nasty to build that attitude of the old saying we do more with less. Maybe its just my western PA roots or maybe I am just a have-not inner city teacher/catholic school coach who is amazed that some schools spend that much on a sport when I have kids who are moving from homeless shelter to shelter every week. I do want to give my players the best but you can deffintely over do it. I guess when your a have not you keep things in perspective.
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Post by jimbohale on May 18, 2006 11:41:58 GMT -6
Guys,
South Georgia football is as big as D1 football around here. I think Camden may have the best facilities in the state, but there are many other schools here in Georgia with rich tradition who take alot of pride in their football facilities. I don't think this is overkill at all. It installs pride in the athletes and breeds success. Last time I checked, they don't lose to often at Camden County (only 7 losses since 2000 and only 4 of those losses came since 2001).
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Post by brophy on May 18, 2006 12:01:06 GMT -6
It installs pride in the athletes and breeds success. bottom line.period.....Football facilities are no different than a Computer lab.... my (previous) facilities wouldn't have passed as a janitor's closet at Camden....
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