SconnieOC
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Just here to learn the facemelter
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Post by SconnieOC on Feb 14, 2018 8:36:01 GMT -6
I'm 30.. played tackle from 7th grade up until 5 years of college. I was an injury magnet in college.. tore my labrum in my left shoulder as a sophomore, had to have a surgery that they botched so I got a freebie 2nd surgery. Tore up everything in my knee except ACL as a junior, the only lingering pain I have from that is when there's a big temp change and it gets stiff.. As a senior I dislocated the same shoulder, but didn't miss more than a couple of plays, and later that year took a stinger on the other side that's caused some lingering nerve damage, which is basically just when I sleep on it wrong..
Had 4 concussions (diagnosed) in all my time.. 1 in baseball when a 1 hopper took a weird bounce of the lip and hit me in the face, also broke my nose.. 1 in hoops in high school when I stupidly tried to go up for a dunk on a fast break vs our rival and the dude undercut me, probably lucky it wasn't worse. 1 my freshman year of college football when our All-American LB caught me just right in a scrimmage and 1 my senior year when I tried to go over a guy into the endzone, got flipped, landed on my head and of course, didn't score. This one wasn't truly diagnosed, but I had all the symptoms.. but I wasn't telling the trainer and missing any of my senior year.
So all in all not too bad.
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Post by silkyice on Feb 14, 2018 8:42:35 GMT -6
47. Fine. Just played two hours of intense full court basketball Monday night. Lift heavy (heavy for me) weights once a week.
Played from 4th grade until 12th minus my 8th grade year when I got cut. Late bloomer. LOL
Probably two concussions in my life. Or what we call them now. Fell off something and blacked out when younger. Got slammed on back of head during a tackling drill. Super flash of colored light and might have blacked out for a sec. Don't remember any short-term problems from either time.
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Let me add that we blocked and tackled with our face. How we were taught. We don't teach it that way anymore and we shouldn't. I played o and d line, so I have to have 10,000 (no real idea) of those sub-concussive hits.
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Post by groundchuck on Feb 14, 2018 8:53:58 GMT -6
I am in my 40s and fine.
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Post by newt21 on Feb 14, 2018 10:23:23 GMT -6
I'm 32 and most of my serious injuries came from basketball (broke each of my feet, different incidents), slow pitch softball (fractured heel), and snowboarding (undiagnosed concussion, head slammed into ice). My wrists get sore from time to time from football, but who's to say it's not also from lifting or snowboarding?
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Post by CanyonCoach on Feb 14, 2018 10:29:04 GMT -6
I am 46 and of my all hospital visits (4) were work related....no issues related to football injuries.
Brother- 42- dislocated knee on freak play-- still plays basketball and slow pitch softball
Brother- 40- dislocated hip in all-star game-- just ran the Army 10 miler in DC
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Post by silkyice on Feb 14, 2018 10:40:12 GMT -6
46 all hospital visits were work related Where in the hell do you work? JK
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Post by CanyonCoach on Feb 14, 2018 10:44:53 GMT -6
46 all hospital visits were work related Where in the hell do you work? JK I used to work in corrections...that was worded poorly.. I am 46 and have been hospitalized 4 times.
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Post by silkyice on Feb 14, 2018 10:51:17 GMT -6
Where in the hell do you work? JK I used to work in corrections...that was worded poorly.. I am 46 and have been hospitalized 4 times. I knew what you meant. Just having fun. Thanks for your time working in corrections.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Feb 14, 2018 10:56:28 GMT -6
I hear guys talk about old football injuries all the time. Sometimes I don't buy it. I think some of these guys are attention seekers or want to look as if they have a badge of honor.
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Post by mahonz on Feb 14, 2018 11:00:18 GMT -6
Played tackle football from 8-20 years old. The usual minor injuries and one known concussion. Was a competitive freestyle skier from 14-24 but started when I was about 10 years old. Many breaks, strains, pulls, twists, punctures, jams, concussions. Im 60 now and am feeling it. The Winter Olympics should be banned from anyone under the age of 30
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Post by coachcb on Feb 14, 2018 11:24:25 GMT -6
I picked up multiple concussions playing football and I still deal with migraines from them off and on. With that being said, we were taught to lead with our face masks when blocking and tackling when I was playing so it's no surprise that I was concussed. I was also an "aggressive" player that had no qualms putting his face-mask through people standing around piles or on unsuspecting LBs or DBs on the back-side. I don't have any ailments other than that.
But, out of the twenty-two starters from my senior year, I'm the only one that has had any on-going issues due to football. I do have friends from high school that didn't play football that have dealt with some medical issues over the years. One is a former tennis player who has had repeated back and knee surgeries. He has is first knee surgery when he was a junior in high school as he blew out his ACL at practice. Another is an all-state wrestler who has had his right hand operated on three times as he broke it during a match. There were issues with the placement of the pin and that hand has become arthritic.
edit: I'm 37 and used to compete in shot, discus and the Highland Games until I completely separated my shoulder playing kick-ball a few summers ago, lol.. I still lift heavy three-four days per week and I might be able to throw shot and discus this summer if my shoulder cooperates. Shot isn't too hard on it but tossing the disc lights it up.
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Post by olcoach53 on Feb 14, 2018 12:54:34 GMT -6
I don't know about your school but I hear more about band kids getting in trouble for sleeping around than anyone else I'm 43 no idea if football is to blame or just hitting the 40 wall but I def feel something every day when I wake up. Seem to be mentally stable, depending on who you ask. Because if your school is anything like mine, Band rules the roost. They get coddled by their teachers and especially their parents and are seen as being the kings of the school. No clue when this started.
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Post by vanden48 on Feb 14, 2018 13:06:19 GMT -6
Played 4 years in high school and 4 years in college. I am in great shape. I teach science so all my concussions can't be limiting my mental capacity that much. I had a few big time concussions in high school that I remember. I couldn't tell you how many concussions I had in college, they only counted then if you got knocked out. Which is why all this data they are collecting is such bull crap. The way they diagnosed head injuries today is vastly different then the way they did it 5, 10, 20, 50 years ago.
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Post by kylem56 on Feb 14, 2018 13:25:59 GMT -6
Played 4 years in high school and had multiple concussions (at least 4 of them but 1 from a car accident). I have had another from a car accident a year or so ago. Every once in awhile I will slip on a word and Ive had seizures but they have never been able to tie them to concussions.
Even though I graduated in 2005, everything is so different now in the way we teach blocking and tackling. Certain drills are not used anymore. Times have changed.
Would I play again if I had the chance? Absolutely . Would I let my son play? Absolutely, as long as he is taught the safer techniques that most of us use today.
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Post by 53 on Feb 14, 2018 13:35:50 GMT -6
Most of the people that bitch about old injuries are also way over weight, and not active at all
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Post by fantom on Feb 14, 2018 14:18:23 GMT -6
I picked up multiple concussions playing football and I still deal with migraines from them off and on. With that being said, we were taught to lead with our face masks when blocking and tackling when I was playing so it's no surprise that I was concussed. I was also an "aggressive" player that had no qualms putting his face-mask through people standing around piles or on unsuspecting LBs or DBs on the back-side. I don't have any ailments other than that. It's funny but I feel that my lack of concussions was because of the way that we were taught.
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Post by coachcb on Feb 14, 2018 14:21:32 GMT -6
I picked up multiple concussions playing football and I still deal with migraines from them off and on. With that being said, we were taught to lead with our face masks when blocking and tackling when I was playing so it's no surprise that I was concussed. I was also an "aggressive" player that had no qualms putting his face-mask through people standing around piles or on unsuspecting LBs or DBs on the back-side. I don't have any ailments other than that. It's funny but I feel that my lack of concussions was because of the way that we were taught. Feet-Hat-Hands! Face-mask on their outside number! Virtually every contact resulted in a blow to the head. lol
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Post by td4tc on Feb 14, 2018 14:27:52 GMT -6
Many concussions, knee surgeries but the advantage of a touch of Alzheimer's is that I wake up with a new set of friends every day.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Feb 14, 2018 14:43:28 GMT -6
Most of the people that bitch about old injuries are also way over weight, and not active at all I'm way overweight but I don't bitch about old injuries. I just really like pizza, burgers, tacos, and especially beer!
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Post by coachj12 on Feb 14, 2018 14:45:37 GMT -6
Played from 4 years old to college graduation. I did have 2 ACL surgeries in college and 1 concussion. The concussion was because the hs staff let me pick out my own helmet and I thought the revos were cool when they came out. So I got one too small for my head and paid the price. Other than that I'm far better off than the majority of people I went to high school with health wise right now.
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Post by rsmith627 on Feb 14, 2018 18:06:01 GMT -6
Most of the people that bitch about old injuries are also way over weight, and not active at all I'm way overweight but I don't bitch about old injuries. I just really like pizza, burgers, tacos, and especially beer! Can we find a way to make these things healthy, but still taste good? I'm pushing 250 again though. Time to get back to working on me.
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Post by Defcord on Feb 14, 2018 20:00:59 GMT -6
I'm way overweight but I don't bitch about old injuries. I just really like pizza, burgers, tacos, and especially beer! Can we find a way to make these things healthy, but still taste good? I'm pushing 250 again though. Time to get back to working on me. No...the facemelter of food, the “fat melter,” hasn’t been invented yet. Probably because cooks wear chef hats and not visors.
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Post by 53 on Feb 14, 2018 20:10:01 GMT -6
Can we find a way to make these things healthy, but still taste good? I'm pushing 250 again though. Time to get back to working on me. No...the facemelter of food, the “fat melter,” hasn’t been invented yet. Probably because cooks wear chef hats and not visors. It’s invented but you might {censored} your pants.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Feb 14, 2018 22:05:00 GMT -6
Can we find a way to make these things healthy, but still taste good? I'm pushing 250 again though. Time to get back to working on me. No...the facemelter of food, the “fat melter,” hasn’t been invented yet. Probably because cooks wear chef hats and not visors. Well that’s about to change. I can see it now. Want to eat pizza, drink beer, nor work out, AND get those washboard abs you always wanted? Well you’ve tried the facemelter, now try the fatmelter!!!!
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 15, 2018 7:14:05 GMT -6
I think something being lost (or at least not brought up) in this thread is that it underscores the very debate. It is easy for everyone to identify the acute injuries and causes. My knee is jacked up because ______ my shoulder gives me problems because ________. However when it comes to the mental faculties, it is simply "ah..that is just old age.." or even worse unaware.
I played ball for just 4 years...had a few "stingers" (that pain in the trap where you can't move your neck) and a few concussions in my life (caught a flyball with my forehead when I was 8, slammed into a park truck riding a bike looking at the speedometer when I was like 12, and maybe a couple during football) No lasting injuries from any of that, BUT:
I do find myself forgetting names more regularly. They just kind of flitter away in the head. Students who I have taught for 3 and 4 years, and more alarmingly the other day. Teacher who I have worked with for 5 years. Just couldn't pull the name. And that is the issue. No clue if any of that is related to any head trauma or not.
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Post by fantom on Feb 15, 2018 10:05:27 GMT -6
I think something being lost (or at least not brought up) in this thread is that it underscores the very debate. It is easy for everyone to identify the acute injuries and causes. My knee is jacked up because ______ my shoulder gives me problems because ________. However when it comes to the mental faculties, it is simply "ah..that is just old age.." or even worse unaware. I played ball for just 4 years...had a few "stingers" (that pain in the trap where you can't move your neck) and a few concussions in my life (caught a flyball with my forehead when I was 8, slammed into a park truck riding a bike looking at the speedometer when I was like 12, and maybe a couple during football) No lasting injuries from any of that, BUT: I do find myself forgetting names more regularly. They just kind of flitter away in the head. Students who I have taught for 3 and 4 years, and more alarmingly the other day. Teacher who I have worked with for 5 years. Just couldn't pull the name. And that is the issue. No clue if any of that is related to any head trauma or not. The problem is that there's no way of knowing if we forget things because of football or because of old age.
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 15, 2018 10:21:37 GMT -6
I think something being lost (or at least not brought up) in this thread is that it underscores the very debate. It is easy for everyone to identify the acute injuries and causes. My knee is jacked up because ______ my shoulder gives me problems because ________. However when it comes to the mental faculties, it is simply "ah..that is just old age.." or even worse unaware. I played ball for just 4 years...had a few "stingers" (that pain in the trap where you can't move your neck) and a few concussions in my life (caught a flyball with my forehead when I was 8, slammed into a park truck riding a bike looking at the speedometer when I was like 12, and maybe a couple during football) No lasting injuries from any of that, BUT: I do find myself forgetting names more regularly. They just kind of flitter away in the head. Students who I have taught for 3 and 4 years, and more alarmingly the other day. Teacher who I have worked with for 5 years. Just couldn't pull the name. And that is the issue. No clue if any of that is related to any head trauma or not. The problem is that there's no way of knowing if we forget things because of football or because of old age. And that is the biggest problem. Trying to make educated decisions and have informed discussions about a potentially hidden issue. You don't know if you would forget those things if you hadn't played football, or if the issue is exacerbated or primed because of early head trauma. That is the problem with brain injury/trauma/disease. It isn't usually an acute issue. It isn't like "Oh, I just twisted my knee. I heard it pop. Now I can't put weight on it" It is more like cancer/heart disease with regards to lifestyle choices. Was it the cigarette you smoked on April 3rd, 2008 that gave you lung cancer? Was it the last of the 4 donuts you ate on March 15th 2012 that created provided the cholesterol to build the plaque that created the blockage or the first? Which hour on your trip to the beach was the catalyst for that skin cancer? Just so much unknown. Why did George Burns live to 100 and my Aunt who was the only non smoker in her family (but owned a bar, so inhaled second hand smoke) die of lung cancer at the age of like 60? Why did this guys brain crap out after playing football, but this guy and this guy are doing just fine? Certainly isn't an easy discussion. I just wanted to point out that it doesn't seem to do anyone any favors when a faction of football coaches reply to situations by essentially saying "OH THIS IS THE WUSSIFCIATION OF AMERICA!!! WE NEED FOOTBALL OR THE COUNTRY IS DOOMED"
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Post by silkyice on Feb 15, 2018 10:22:41 GMT -6
I think something being lost (or at least not brought up) in this thread is that it underscores the very debate. It is easy for everyone to identify the acute injuries and causes. My knee is jacked up because ______ my shoulder gives me problems because ________. However when it comes to the mental faculties, it is simply "ah..that is just old age.." or even worse unaware. I played ball for just 4 years...had a few "stingers" (that pain in the trap where you can't move your neck) and a few concussions in my life (caught a flyball with my forehead when I was 8, slammed into a park truck riding a bike looking at the speedometer when I was like 12, and maybe a couple during football) No lasting injuries from any of that, BUT: I do find myself forgetting names more regularly. They just kind of flitter away in the head. Students who I have taught for 3 and 4 years, and more alarmingly the other day. Teacher who I have worked with for 5 years. Just couldn't pull the name. And that is the issue. No clue if any of that is related to any head trauma or not. The problem is that there's no way of knowing if we forget things because of football or because of old age. Agreed. I believe there was a study recently comparing 60 (70?) year olds who played football and didn't in Iowa (?). Found no difference. My grandmother had dementia. She never played football. But wait, her four sons did. Maybe it isn't playing football that causes problems. I think it is watching it. And two of them played college football which is even rougher when you watch it. Sounds like a great lawsuit.
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Post by fshamrock on Feb 15, 2018 10:29:38 GMT -6
my lower back kills me at times and I'm convinced it's from doing power cleans...I know I know blah blah blah blah proper technique but when I did them pretty much every coach just spit chew in my face and yelled "git that gawdam bar up on that chest boy!!" so we just rocked that sucker up there any old way we could and I swear it's the reason I can't sit indian style for longer than 13 seconds without searing pain.
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Post by pistolwhipped on Feb 15, 2018 10:34:04 GMT -6
36yrs 6'8" 300 OL from 7th - 5th Year College
1 ACL reconstruction 1 Major concussion (vomiting on team bus to airport but finished the game)
I feel pretty good. I used to play basketball quite a bit and now don't because it seems like I pull a calf, Achilles or something every time.
Golf is my go to sport now and I'll occasionally run scout team vs my Varsity guys to get them a decent look if the scouts are having a tough go at it.
Feel pretty lucky to be as unscathed as I am at the moment. That may change when I need knee/hip/shoulder replacement some years down the road.
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