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Post by wingtol on Sept 12, 2017 13:34:28 GMT -6
So before this gets locked...
What's wrong with having expectations for a kid to be part of a team? What happens when the kid decides to protest your play calling by changing plays? Or just do their own thing when they are out there because they don't agree with what you are teaching? Like I said earlier I find nothing wrong with asking a kid to respect something we do as a team. Where do you draw the line with what you expect them to do and not complain about their actions later?
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Post by RuningOutOfOptions on Sept 12, 2017 13:38:16 GMT -6
So before this gets locked... What's wrong with having expectations for a kid to be part of a team? What happens when the kid decides to protest your play calling by changing plays? Or just do their own thing when they are out there because they don't agree with what you are teaching? Like I said earlier I find nothing wrong with asking a kid to respect something we do as a team. Where do you draw the line with what you expect them to do and not complain about their actions later? That is the reason I believe an open discussion is best and not banning taking a knee, because then it will lead to another way of protesting. Maybe the way you said about changing the plays, or taking a knee during a play. Does it hurt to do what I believe most of them wants us to do, listen to them?
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Post by huddlehut on Sept 12, 2017 13:48:55 GMT -6
I agree! Listen to them. Help them all you can. Be supportive. We've all done those things and will continue to do so. Somebody suggested addressing the grievances in some other way, like a school club or whatever... Just do not take a knee during the playing of our country's national anthem while you are wearing the football uniform of our school.
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Post by PSS on Sept 12, 2017 13:49:21 GMT -6
That's a way bigger issue than just racism though. We have our issues but I don't think we're going backwards as a society. Americans of African decent that lives in a two parent household has a lower chance of living in poverty than white Americans. If you compare Caucasian American that lives in a two parent household to African American from two parent household, is that still true then? tothehouse: So we decide how somebody feeling oppressed protests? Doesn't that take away the meaning of the protest and lead down a pretty slippery slope? Do you believe we also should ban burning of crosses, making Nazi gestures and associating with the KKK? If you do, I respect your point, otherwise I believe in my own opinion that it can be handled better. I also believe that if you try to ban this way of protesting, the people who wants to protest will find another way. They are choosing to kneel because it is getting attention. Kap is never playing in the NFL (I believe he was a mediocre quarterback that would be out of the league on 2 years either way because of the way he plays), but thanks to all the attention he is getting from people getting upset with him, he is achieving his goal. Media danced to his tune and I believe he is as happy as a cucumber. No, they're choosing to kneel because they are selfish. If these pro athletes wanted to make a difference they would use their platform and money to make a difference. But no, that takes to much effort and money from them. They don't want too actually make a difference. Why do they need to call attention to it when it is already known. There taking a knee will not change a thing. However, if they were to use their money and platform it would be much more beneficial to their movement.
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Post by RuningOutOfOptions on Sept 12, 2017 13:54:31 GMT -6
If you compare Caucasian American that lives in a two parent household to African American from two parent household, is that still true then? tothehouse: So we decide how somebody feeling oppressed protests? Doesn't that take away the meaning of the protest and lead down a pretty slippery slope? Do you believe we also should ban burning of crosses, making Nazi gestures and associating with the KKK? If you do, I respect your point, otherwise I believe in my own opinion that it can be handled better. I also believe that if you try to ban this way of protesting, the people who wants to protest will find another way. They are choosing to kneel because it is getting attention. Kap is never playing in the NFL (I believe he was a mediocre quarterback that would be out of the league on 2 years either way because of the way he plays), but thanks to all the attention he is getting from people getting upset with him, he is achieving his goal. Media danced to his tune and I believe he is as happy as a cucumber. No, they're choosing to kneel because they are selfish. If these pro athletes wanted to make a difference they would use their platform and money to make a difference. But no, that takes to much effort and money from them. They don't want too actually make a difference. Why do they need to call attention to it when it is already known. There taking a knee will not change a thing. However, if they were to use their money and platform it would be much more beneficial to their movement. Kap has donated to help the BLM cause. Michael Bennett spends money and time helping low income families from his community by donations, so does his brother. Marshawn Lynch is constantly helping inner city kids in Oakland both by visiting to encourage and donations to their schools.
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Post by RuningOutOfOptions on Sept 12, 2017 13:56:02 GMT -6
I agree! Listen to them. Help them all you can. Be supportive. We've all done those things and will continue to do so. Somebody suggested addressing the grievances in some other way, like a school club or whatever... Just do not take a knee during the playing of our country's national anthem while you are wearing the football uniform of our school. How do you think they will react when faced with that ultimatum? Will they be open to a dialogue or feel that they are being pressured?
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Post by PSS on Sept 12, 2017 13:59:50 GMT -6
No, they're choosing to kneel because they are selfish. If these pro athletes wanted to make a difference they would use their platform and money to make a difference. But no, that takes to much effort and money from them. They don't want too actually make a difference. Why do they need to call attention to it when it is already known. There taking a knee will not change a thing. However, if they were to use their money and platform it would be much more beneficial to their movement. Kap has donated to help the BLM cause. Michael Bennett spends money and time helping low income families from his community by donations, so does his brother. Marshawn Lynch is constantly helping inner city kids in Oakland both by visiting to encourage and donations to their schools. BLM is not exactly the best way to show support. They will never get anything changed. It has to be done at the legislative level. None of these guys want to do that.
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Post by SconnieOC on Sept 12, 2017 14:20:49 GMT -6
So before this gets locked... What's wrong with having expectations for a kid to be part of a team? What happens when the kid decides to protest your play calling by changing plays? Or just do their own thing when they are out there because they don't agree with what you are teaching? Like I said earlier I find nothing wrong with asking a kid to respect something we do as a team. Where do you draw the line with what you expect them to do and not complain about their actions later? Well in that situation, a player directly hurts the team, therefore giving you a reason to take them off the field. I don't agree with what Kap did, I feel there were different opportunities for him to step on his platform.. but ultimately it worked, not for his professional career, but for his movement. People sure are talking about it, and more people are doing it. If no one would have lost their mind, this would be over, and this wouldn't be a topic. I come from a big military family, I'm one of the few who hasn't served, so I get what it means. I get how this can enrage people, and I don't blame them for being upset. At the same time, as stated in my first post, we didn't even acknowledge our kids doing it, and they stopped. And if they didn't, why does that affect how you play 3 minutes after the anthem.. it shouldn't, and if it does, I doubt your team is very disciplined anyways. Again, I don't really support what they're doing, and there probably are better ways, but if this directly impacts your teams performance, you've got bigger issues on your hands than winning football games... that is if building men is actually your goal.
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Post by SconnieOC on Sept 12, 2017 14:23:40 GMT -6
So before this gets locked... What's wrong with having expectations for a kid to be part of a team? What happens when the kid decides to protest your play calling by changing plays? Or just do their own thing when they are out there because they don't agree with what you are teaching? Like I said earlier I find nothing wrong with asking a kid to respect something we do as a team. Where do you draw the line with what you expect them to do and not complain about their actions later? Well in that situation, a player directly hurts the team, therefore giving you a reason to take them off the field. I don't agree with what Kap did, I feel there were different opportunities for him to step on his platform.. but ultimately it worked, not for his professional career, but for his movement. People sure are talking about it, and more people are doing it. If no one would have lost their mind, this would be over, and this wouldn't be a topic. I come from a big military family, I'm one of the few who hasn't served, so I get what it means. I get how this can enrage people, and I don't blame them for being upset. At the same time, as stated in my first post, we didn't even acknowledge our kids doing it, and they stopped. And if they didn't, why does that affect how you play 3 minutes after the anthem.. it shouldn't, and if it does, I doubt your team is very disciplined anyways. Again, I don't really support what they're doing, and there probably are better ways, but if this directly impacts your teams performance, you've got bigger issues on your hands than winning football games... that is if building men is actually your goal. And after reading this again, wingtol this isn't meant as an attack on your team, just a general statement. Didn't want this to come across confrontational.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 12, 2017 14:42:13 GMT -6
I would bench the kid and tell him exactly why. They are entitled to their beliefs but they are not entitled to use the team or a school function as a soap box for those beliefs. If they fire me, they fire me. The team doesn't need that kind of distraction and I wouldn't tolerate it. This has nothing to do with my own personal beliefs. It has everything to do with being a part of a TEAM and not abusing that privilege. Rookie initiations used to be part of being part of a TEAM as well. Would you have benched a kid who chose not to participate in an initiation? You can't compare "hazing" (i.e. potential assault) to kids using the team, school and community as a soap box for their personal beliefs. Their actions are a distraction from the team and from the program that is unnecessary. They can do what every other "civilized" person does now; get on social media and b-tch.
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Post by tothehouse on Sept 12, 2017 15:28:39 GMT -6
I'm saying...Swede...that nobody is seeing what these kids are doing at a HS game.
Their impact can be felt more, imo, if they start a social justice club, etc. Make a Youtube video about how they feel and post it.
What is the end game Swede? In the end...imo, a HS kid kneeling is getting them nowhere. Except everyone saying they are a copycat. Just like everyone trying to catch balls one handed like OBJ.
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Post by bleefb on Sept 12, 2017 16:09:41 GMT -6
This is an honest question. Why is the National Anthem played before ball games anyways? I have zero problem with it. I think it is a good thing. But if we didn't do it, would we miss it or would we only miss it because it is part of the routine that we are accustom to? Where else do you ever hear the national anthem? I mean really, where else? Why would that be something that is only played at ball games? I am sure it is played at other things, but I really can't think of too many. It can't be because it is a place where the public gathers. We don't play it at church, concerts, movies, school (Pledge instead), plays, opera, Broadway, Festivals, Fairs, etc. Surely this just started somewhere and just built into a tradition. Is it like playing Sweet Caroline at every baseball game now? Again, I have no problem with it. But you have to admit, if we never played it and someone suggested that we should start playing it before every single sporting event, we would think that was odd. I love that we honor our country, military, and those who have fought and died for the country. I definitely don't want any one to disrespect the flag or national anthem. But why is it played before sporting events? www.quora.com/How-did-the-National-Anthem-start-playing-at-the-beginning-of-American-pro-sports-events
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Post by coachtuck on Sept 12, 2017 16:22:18 GMT -6
I'm saying...Swede...that nobody is seeing what these kids are doing at a HS game. Their impact can be felt more, imo, if they start a social justice club, etc. Make a Youtube video about how they feel and post it. What is the end game Swede? In the end...imo, a HS kid kneeling is getting them nowhere. Except everyone saying they are a copycat. Just like everyone trying to catch balls one handed like OBJ. So as coaches why not point the kids in that direction so they can start doing those things
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Post by blb on Sept 12, 2017 16:25:23 GMT -6
We always rehearsed Pre-Game (including National Anthem) day before first game.
Told kids where-how-why to stand during Anthem.
Would like to think if there was an issue we would've found out and addressed it then.
Not five minutes before Kick off.
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Post by brophy on Sept 12, 2017 16:54:51 GMT -6
It has to be done at the legislative level. what is "it"? Change, what, exactly? THAT, in itself, highlights how ridiculous this all is
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Post by silkyice on Sept 12, 2017 17:20:39 GMT -6
This is an honest question. Why is the National Anthem played before ball games anyways? I have zero problem with it. I think it is a good thing. But if we didn't do it, would we miss it or would we only miss it because it is part of the routine that we are accustom to? Where else do you ever hear the national anthem? I mean really, where else? Why would that be something that is only played at ball games? I am sure it is played at other things, but I really can't think of too many. It can't be because it is a place where the public gathers. We don't play it at church, concerts, movies, school (Pledge instead), plays, opera, Broadway, Festivals, Fairs, etc. Surely this just started somewhere and just built into a tradition. Is it like playing Sweet Caroline at every baseball game now? Again, I have no problem with it. But you have to admit, if we never played it and someone suggested that we should start playing it before every single sporting event, we would think that was odd. I love that we honor our country, military, and those who have fought and died for the country. I definitely don't want any one to disrespect the flag or national anthem. But why is it played before sporting events? www.quora.com/How-did-the-National-Anthem-start-playing-at-the-beginning-of-American-pro-sports-eventsThank you
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Post by wildcatslbcoach24 on Sept 12, 2017 17:24:14 GMT -6
How I view it is if they want to, it's their constitutional right to do so as long as they don't make it into a circus. If a bunch of neo Nazis and KKK guys can do what they did at UVA and get a legal pass, then a kid kneeling peacefully doesn't bother me. I think saying they are mimicking pros is dismissive of our player's intelligence and emotional needs. Our HS kids are smart enough to know what institutionalized racism is and how it works in America; especially our male athletes of color from urban areas. If we have to respect a kid's right to pray or not pray then we should respect their right to make a stand. I don't encourage it, but would not chastise a player who does it. The National Anthem before a game is a political statement, kneeling is a political statement as a democracy we have to respect non violent protest otherwise we creep into the abyss of authoritarianism. If you're gonna waste pre game or post game time on that and not game planning ok, but I wouldn't.
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Post by 19delta on Sept 12, 2017 17:33:07 GMT -6
This is an honest question. Why is the National Anthem played before ball games anyways? I have zero problem with it. I think it is a good thing. But if we didn't do it, would we miss it or would we only miss it because it is part of the routine that we are accustom to? Where else do you ever hear the national anthem? I mean really, where else? Why would that be something that is only played at ball games? I am sure it is played at other things, but I really can't think of too many. It can't be because it is a place where the public gathers. We don't play it at church, concerts, movies, school (Pledge instead), plays, opera, Broadway, Festivals, Fairs, etc. Surely this just started somewhere and just built into a tradition. Is it like playing Sweet Caroline at every baseball game now? Again, I have no problem with it. But you have to admit, if we never played it and someone suggested that we should start playing it before every single sporting event, we would think that was odd. I love that we honor our country, military, and those who have fought and died for the country. I definitely don't want any one to disrespect the flag or national anthem. But why is it played before sporting events? Every time the National Anthem isn't played, somewhere, a bald eagle dies.
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Post by wingtol on Sept 12, 2017 17:50:20 GMT -6
Well in that situation, a player directly hurts the team, therefore giving you a reason to take them off the field. I don't agree with what Kap did, I feel there were different opportunities for him to step on his platform.. but ultimately it worked, not for his professional career, but for his movement. People sure are talking about it, and more people are doing it. If no one would have lost their mind, this would be over, and this wouldn't be a topic. I come from a big military family, I'm one of the few who hasn't served, so I get what it means. I get how this can enrage people, and I don't blame them for being upset. At the same time, as stated in my first post, we didn't even acknowledge our kids doing it, and they stopped. And if they didn't, why does that affect how you play 3 minutes after the anthem.. it shouldn't, and if it does, I doubt your team is very disciplined anyways. Again, I don't really support what they're doing, and there probably are better ways, but if this directly impacts your teams performance, you've got bigger issues on your hands than winning football games... that is if building men is actually your goal. And after reading this again, wingtol this isn't meant as an attack on your team, just a general statement. Didn't want this to come across confrontational. No worries. Didn't see it as an attack at all since never said we had an issue with it on our team. Just throwing stuff out for discussion sake. This is anthem stuff is starting to get into the Pink Out October territory. Ask kids why they wear pink in October now and half ofmthem probably have no idea why, just that's it's cool and they sell a lot of pink football stuff now.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Sept 12, 2017 18:20:27 GMT -6
I find it interesting that I almost never see the inner city kids, who have every reason to feel oppressed, take a knee during the anthem. We played an all-African American team from a very rough part of KC. Their coach said 1/2 of their team was sick from the pregame meal because it was the first true meal they'd had in months. But when the anthem was played, every single person on their team and their families in the stands stood. They were all in unison, straddling the sideline and everything.
In my limited experience with this, the people that kneel for the anthem are the furthest from oppression. When we played a team from an affluent suburb in STL, they knelt for the anthem. I guess they feel like they need attention because they believe they have more of a platform?
I 100% support the movement to improve racial tension in this country. But I am sick and tired of seeing everybody bash this country. People strive to be as irrational as possible because it'll gain them the attention they crave and that's what's wrong with 2017.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Sept 12, 2017 18:34:33 GMT -6
Rookie initiations used to be part of being part of a TEAM as well. Would you have benched a kid who chose not to participate in an initiation? You can't compare "hazing" (i.e. potential assault) to kids using the team, school and community as a soap box for their personal beliefs. Their actions are a distraction from the team and from the program that is unnecessary. They can do what every other "civilized" person does now; get on social media and b-tch. Exactly. If one of our kids (we're a conservative town and a capitol city) knelt for the anthem, the town would melt. We'd be getting emails saying how "I'll never watch this team again!" or "Boycott the Crusaders!" because we all know how the far right old people love to overreact and boycott things. Our enrollment would shrink and nobody would raise money for our school for a few years. Meanwhile, the player will see how he's getting so much attention and will keep doing it as more and more people join his side (craving the attention and rebellious attitude). Think that sounds nuts? It's not. I watched it happen 10 minutes from my house at Mizzou. It was actually a small little protest that would happen at any other campus in America and be forgotten about after three days, but the media circus (Mizzou's J-School) spread it like wildfire (for clicks and ratings) and there we have it.
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Post by wildcatslbcoach24 on Sept 12, 2017 18:40:38 GMT -6
I find it interesting that I almost never see the inner city kids, who have every reason to feel oppressed, take a knee during the anthem. We played an all-African American team from a very rough part of KC. Their coach said 1/2 of their team was sick from the pregame meal because it was the first true meal they'd had in months. But when the anthem was played, every single person on their team and their families in the stands stood. They were all in unison, straddling the sideline and everything. In my limited experience with this, the people that kneel for the anthem are the furthest from oppression. When we played a team from an affluent suburb in STL, they knelt for the anthem. I guess they feel like they need attention because they believe they have more of a platform? I 100% support the movement to improve racial tension in this country. But I am sick and tired of seeing everybody bash this country. People strive to be as irrational as possible because it'll gain them the attention they crave and that's what's wrong with 2017. Depending on the team they're playing and what part of the country they're playing it could definitely be a safety concern leading to it not being done. I remember playing a game in small town AZ, most of our team was Latino or Mixed and by the looks of it probably a 1/4 of their team was similar. We had rocks thrown as us by a good section of the opposing stands as we walked by, I was spit on by multiple people, called wetback and spic, and (strangely) told to go back to Puerto Rico.๐๐๐ถ๐ค, AZ education isn't the best... this was a reaction to us in a time that wasn't hyper charged with political tension. No one is bashing the country with these statements and protests. It's a call for equity as citizens regardless of race, religion, or creed. If anything they are being more American than anyone, our nation was founded on protesting inequity. I would highly suggest y'all read A Colony in a Nation, it explains clearly how we've created two separate Americas. One is for the mainly white upper middle class and the other for urban minority population centers and rural poor white areas. It makes a strikingly conservative explanation of how we treat minorities and the poor in America now is similar to how the British treated American colonials.
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Post by wildcatslbcoach24 on Sept 12, 2017 18:44:50 GMT -6
I find it interesting that I almost never see the inner city kids, who have every reason to feel oppressed, take a knee during the anthem. We played an all-African American team from a very rough part of KC. Their coach said 1/2 of their team was sick from the pregame meal because it was the first true meal they'd had in months. But when the anthem was played, every single person on their team and their families in the stands stood. They were all in unison, straddling the sideline and everything. In my limited experience with this, the people that kneel for the anthem are the furthest from oppression. When we played a team from an affluent suburb in STL, they knelt for the anthem. I guess they feel like they need attention because they believe they have more of a platform? I 100% support the movement to improve racial tension in this country. But I am sick and tired of seeing everybody bash this country. People strive to be as irrational as possible because it'll gain them the attention they crave and that's what's wrong with 2017. Depending on the team they're playing and what part of the country they're playing it could definitely be a safety concern leading to it not being done. I remember playing a game in small town AZ, most of our team was Latino or Mixed and by the looks of it probably a 1/4 of their team was similar. We had rocks thrown as us by a good section of the opposing stands as we walked by, I was spit on by multiple people, called wetback and spic, and (strangely) told to go back to Puerto Rico.๐๐๐ถ๐ค, AZ education isn't the best... this was a reaction to us in a time that wasn't hyper charged with political tension. No one is bashing the country with these statements and protests. It's a call for equity as citizens regardless of race, religion, or creed. If anything they are being more American than anyone, our nation was founded on protesting inequity. I would highly suggest y'all read A Colony in a Nation, it explains clearly how we've created two separate Americas. One is for the mainly white upper middle class and the other for urban minority population centers and rural poor white areas. It makes a strikingly conservative explanation of how we treat minorities and the poor in America now is similar to how the British treated American colonials. This happened way back in 2002- 2003
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Post by gccwolverine on Sept 12, 2017 21:07:33 GMT -6
Anyone who doesn't stand and honor Old Glory during the playing of the National Anthem is of absolutely no use to me, and has no room on any team I coach, be it player or assistant. If you don't want to display patriotism...do it behind the bleachers where no one can see your stupidity. You know I've stood for the anthem my whole life..... for you though.... I'd {censored} take a knee and dare you to fire me over it.
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 12, 2017 21:25:37 GMT -6
If a young man was to play on Friday nights, he had better not take a knee during the playing of the national anthem. Our players will stand, if for no other reason than to show their respect for those in our community who have served in the armed forces. I cannot believe the passivity and hypocrisy of so many coaches on this board. Furthermore, I cannot believe that any of you support what "Kap" does and says! For those of you worried about a lawsuit, how do you enforce any of the other expectations that you have for your players? That's a cop-out! You just don't want to upset your snowflakes! Be a leader. Teach your athletes to respect the flag. They live in the greatest country in the world! Can you provide examples of hypocrisy in this case? Also, can you explain how our NATIONAL ANTHEM...key word being NATIONAL, has somehow become appropriated to the armed forces? Just because the stadium announcer says so? Does it not represent all citizens, regardless as to armed forces status or not? Your post demonstrates you are so out of touch with the situation and you are completely missing the point. While you are thumping your chest and saying "They live in the greatest country in the world" all that this kneeling protest is saying is "Eh, hold on there kind sir. It might not be as great as you think for guys that don't look like you". It just seems that many who share your sentiments don't want to hear that. That said, I don't necessarily support this particular method of protest because there really is no end game in sight. It differs from the 1968 Tommy Smith and John Carlos Olympic protest because it is a weekly thing, not a one time conversation starter. In the kneeling for anthem situation, how does one determine that an end to the injustice has been achieved? So from that perspective, I don't think it really makes a lot of sense. But the fact that several coaches are essentially saying "HOW DARE anyone not conform to 'our' expectations or symbolically speak poorly of the country that treats me so well" .... that provides a great deal of support to those wishing to protest. That is what it really comes down to here, control and conformity. This past Friday I probably witnessed several hundred white individuals "disrespecting" the Flag and the Anthem.... as they talked and walked waiting to enter the stadium. I bet MILLIONS upon MILLIONS "disrespected" the Flag and the Anthem as they sat in their Lazy-Boy recliners watching the NFL opening weekend. Keep in mind that the citizens of Chicago are never quite, but rather have their own tradition of loudly cheering through the National Anthem when it is sung by Jim Cornelison. Are they being "disrespectful" with their actions?
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Post by RuningOutOfOptions on Sept 12, 2017 21:31:16 GMT -6
Kap has donated to help the BLM cause. Michael Bennett spends money and time helping low income families from his community by donations, so does his brother. Marshawn Lynch is constantly helping inner city kids in Oakland both by visiting to encourage and donations to their schools. BLM is not exactly the best way to show support. ย They will never get anything changed. ย It has to be done at the legislative level. None of these guys want to do that. ย I don't really approve of them either since I believe they are doing to many things to hurt themselves and their cause, but it is what he believes which means he puts his money where his mouth is. Well, I believe I understand your view better, but I don't agree with it. Which is an improvement in my opinion.
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Post by chi5hi on Sept 12, 2017 21:32:34 GMT -6
Anyone who doesn't stand and honor Old Glory during the playing of the National Anthem is of absolutely no use to me, and has no room on any team I coach, be it player or assistant. If you don't want to display patriotism...do it behind the bleachers where no one can see your stupidity. You know I've stood for the anthem my whole life..... for you though.... I'd {censored} take a knee and dare you to fire me over it. I'd take that dare and give you your final check.
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 12, 2017 22:21:11 GMT -6
You know I've stood for the anthem my whole life..... for you though.... I'd {censored} take a knee and dare you to fire me over it. I'd take that dare and give you your final check. Now that this is over, can we focus on the actual...how would you handle it? We get it, some of you guys who have forgotten that the United States of America were formed by white men who were complaining and protesting their government would bench your guys. Any other thoughts or ideas?
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Post by gccwolverine on Sept 12, 2017 23:52:55 GMT -6
You know I've stood for the anthem my whole life..... for you though.... I'd {censored} take a knee and dare you to fire me over it. I'd take that dare and give you your final check. And I'd see you and the district in court...... and I'd own you both.
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Post by huddlehut on Sept 13, 2017 5:54:25 GMT -6
I'd take that dare and give you your final check. Now that this is over, can we focus on the actual...how would you handle it? ย We get it, some of you guys who have forgotten that the United States of America were formed by white men who were complaining and protesting their government would bench your guys. ย ย Any other thoughts or ideas?ย ...and you work with our youth...? Smh Sad.
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