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Post by Coach Klemme on May 15, 2017 20:35:33 GMT -6
I'm a new hire OC who has been on the coaching staff for 14 years. In my history, the middle school has never been on the same page as the high school program. That is now changing with me in this role. I have ms coaches that are on board with helping the program. We will get 25-30 kids out per grade if it's a good year. Many don't have extensive football knowledge. We are a hybrid wing t hs program. Charting out a wish list I have 5 runs, 2 play action, and quick passes for 7th and one more of each for 8th. These kids will not begin to practice until the 2nd day of school and play their first game after 5-7 practices. Thoughts or ideas on what I should go into the meeting with the MS coaches on what is reasonable that the kids should be able to do when they leave for the HS?
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Post by coachcb on May 16, 2017 7:38:31 GMT -6
I'm a new hire OC who has been on the coaching staff for 14 years. In my history, the middle school has never been on the same page as the high school program. That is now changing with me in this role. I have ms coaches that are on board with helping the program. We will get 25-30 kids out per grade if it's a good year. Many don't have extensive football knowledge. We are a hybrid wing t hs program. Charting out a wish list I have 5 runs, 2 play action, and quick passes for 7th and one more of each for 8th. These kids will not begin to practice until the 2nd day of school and play their first game after 5-7 practices. Thoughts or ideas on what I should go into the meeting with the MS coaches on what is reasonable that the kids should be able to do when they leave for the HS? I had a few years under my belt as a MS HC/OC for a program that fed into a single high school. I asked the high school HC what he wanted to see out of our offense and defense. Offensively, he gave us four base runs with PA off of each and a short list of 3-step drops. He gave us a little wiggle room to add in some stuff as long as it followed the base philosophy of the scheme. We added in one more base run and it's PA and then a couple of PA screens. He taught me what I needed to know for this base offense and we were successful. Defensively, he wanted a base 4-4 with C3 and C1 and that was it. I sat down with the staff, passed on everything the HC taught me and we went from there. So, in reality, learning to teach the kids the base high school scheme is more important than what you're actually running.
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Post by YoungDumbCoach on May 16, 2017 11:40:00 GMT -6
For the most part, the scheme that you run isn't nearly as important as the skills and techniques you teach. Make sure that the kids are technically sound and continue to develop as young men and I'm sure that you will be doing a solid job. Scheme can be learned once they get to the high school level.
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Post by jrk5150 on May 16, 2017 15:18:16 GMT -6
I don't mean this in any kind of sarcastic or snarky way:
You should expect them to block and tackle.
Obviously, building on that, you have the opportunity to teach them by using techniques and terminology that they can build on going into HS.
And certainly learning your X&O terminology couldn't hurt.
You might - MIGHT - get an opportunity to get a nice head start on your future QB's with their fundamentals that might be either unique or just tailored to what you do at the HS.
You have an opportunity to indoctrinate into your philosophy, so to speak. If you're a heavy power team, then you can get the backs accustomed to running hard in traffic. If you're heavy misdirection, you can get the backs accustomed to running out their fakes. You can get the linemen pulling. That might make a few things second nature that will allow you some peace of mind as they develop into HS.
I don't know that I'd sweat much more than that. After all, you're going to have to start from scratch with them as freshman if there are new kids coming in. You don't want to risk leaving those kids behind. But generally, the more fundamentals they can learn now, the more you can focus on execution when they get to you.
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Post by tigerscoachbuck on Jun 12, 2017 11:07:43 GMT -6
I'm a new hire OC who has been on the coaching staff for 14 years. In my history, the middle school has never been on the same page as the high school program. That is now changing with me in this role. I have ms coaches that are on board with helping the program. We will get 25-30 kids out per grade if it's a good year. Many don't have extensive football knowledge. We are a hybrid wing t hs program. Charting out a wish list I have 5 runs, 2 play action, and quick passes for 7th and one more of each for 8th. These kids will not begin to practice until the 2nd day of school and play their first game after 5-7 practices. Thoughts or ideas on what I should go into the meeting with the MS coaches on what is reasonable that the kids should be able to do when they leave for the HS? I think the most important thing for the kids to know on the way to the HS is the verbiage. These kids have to learn a new language and if they can understand the concepts of the plays by the end of the year and the offensive a defensive language you should be successful. Other than that it is just the basic fundamentals like ball security, blocking/tackling skills, throwing and catching ect. I wouldn't say be too complex just master the small things.
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