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Post by badtotheflexbone on Mar 25, 2017 23:00:31 GMT -6
Saw this and got me thinking, how many of you guys here put in similar hours per week? How big is the disparity between HC and a position assistant coach?
If yes,
What state? Big or small HS? (Trying to see if it even matters)
If no,
What is your Role and how many hours do you think you put in per week?
Example:
Assistant - hours put in per week? Get back coach - 3 hours put in per week (yell at players to get back during friday night, etc)
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Post by agap on Mar 25, 2017 23:46:52 GMT -6
I am at a small school. I've never really figured out how many hours I put in each week, but it's probably around 40 hours. A lot of that is at home just watching film or doing other things. I don't have a family so it's not like I'm taking time away from them for football.
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Post by karjaw on Mar 26, 2017 5:11:57 GMT -6
Saw this and got me thinking, how many of you guys here put in similar hours per week? How big is the disparity between HC and a position assistant coach? If yes, What state? Big or small HS? (Trying to see if it even matters) If no, What is your Role and how many hours do you think you put in per week? Example: Assistant - hours put in per week? Get back coach - 3 hours put in per week (yell at players to get back during friday night, etc) Coach I also think it depends on whether or not your teaching classes as well. NY HC AA biggest classification Teach 7 classes before football. Use my lunch period for football so hours a week: 42 hours not including home time. Home time is either at 10pm or 5am so it does not effect my family. Their in bed. Coordinators: same as me Assistants: same as me maybe an hour a day less so 36 hours. I have them leave and then I meet with my coordinators after that. REMEMBER They have a saying in football: There are only two types of Coaches wives: "Great ones or ex ones" So that must mean that most coaches are putting in that kind of time. I also live 40 minutes from my school, so that adds to time away from the family as well. Could not do any of this without the support of my wife and family. Good thread Coach Wright
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Post by realdawg on Mar 26, 2017 5:15:34 GMT -6
DC at a 3a school (1050 students) in NC, I figure I put about 40 hours a week in outside of school. Its a little tough to tell bc my school job is teaching FB Wt. Training classes. So in season we spend 20-30 min a day watching film. I get to school at 6 am, and lift and workout. Take a shower and begin to work. I plan practice and sort scout cards first thing in the morning. This takes about an hour. Mon-Wed Practice till about 6. Usually get gone by about 7. Thursday practice is over by 430 or 5. However, we have JV game, and usually after its over I hang out with the boys while the uniforms wash. Leave around 11 I'd say. Friday night there till between 12 and 2 by the time we can leave the wash. Saturday spend 4-6 hours breaking down film depending on how many films we get. Sunday afternoon staff meeting, and I am usually there 6-8 hours.
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Post by dwbish67 on Mar 26, 2017 6:26:34 GMT -6
Wash? Wow...one of the greatest things we do is give free advertising to a local cleaner and we drop uniforms off Sat morning and the deliver back. No cost and they wash and dry according to instructions
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Post by jlenwood on Mar 26, 2017 7:56:36 GMT -6
We have to track hours "with the athletes" for the state retirement plan. With the players, which does not include any on our own time such as film at home or in the coaches office, field duties, game planning, you know the stuff we have to do, and last year I spent 231 hours during the season with the players. That works out to 15 hours a week. The reality is that it was over 40+ during the season as a DC that I put in.
Now, nothing against my brethren in Texas, but man I am sick of hearing about how coaches in Texas are the only ones doing _____ (fill in the blank) and nobody else in the country does. Every coach in the USA is putting in the hours, regardless of being in Texas or NY or Idaho or whatever. Just my little tiny side rant there.
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Post by Coach Vint on Mar 26, 2017 8:35:44 GMT -6
In the winter and spring I put in about 55 to 60 hours a week and during the season about 90 to 95 hours a week. I spent 8 years at the HS level up north and we worked about the same number of hours. We are always trying to be efficient with our time, but the work must get done.
To respond to your Texas comment, I moved to Texas about 10 years ago. There are great coaches everywhere. There are also bad coaches everywhere. The coach in the video is actually from Massachusetts I believe, and moved to Texas.
The difference in Texas is support of programs and how they are valued. In Texas the facilities at the vast majority of places are top-notch. The programs have sustainable budgets that allow you to purchase a lot of new equipment every year. All coaches work in the building, and there are a lot of them. I am at a school of 700 right now and we have 13 football coaches. Nearly everyone has an athletic period with all of your kids, everyday. It isn't weight training, it is football and your entire team is in there. With all of his support comes a price. That price is job security. Every school expects to win. If you don't win you can be fired, and the new coach can often let coaches go if he has someone else he wants to bring in. Our contracts are dual contracts, so if we get non-renewed as a coach, we are on-renewed as a teacher.
The game is the same, the kids are the same. There are great coaches everywhere and great programs everywhere. The big difference is support and importance within the school and community. There are schools up north that have that support, but down here that support is nearly everywhere.
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Post by theycallitpower on Mar 26, 2017 10:06:33 GMT -6
OC, Asst head coach - Texas- 5a school - 1800 students
Including the time I get to school, time in the school day and after school...game nights and weekends...
I average in total about 82 hours per week...I also spend a few hours late Saturday night on hudl when the wife is asleep and in early morning hours of Sunday on hudl before I go to the office at 12 pm...our staff comes in at 2 pm...but, I get there earlier and stay later on Sunday night.
If you include those hours...I'm over 90 per week in total time either game planning, scripting, teaching, lesson plans, film, athletic period, practice time, or BS time in the office.
I was a GA at the D1 level for 2 years and it's still WAY less time than college coaches put in. You have no life at that level...at least in my college staff experience
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Post by fantom on Mar 26, 2017 10:31:19 GMT -6
I'm not sure exactly how many hours I put in but it's more than 25. I know that because the nincompoops at the central office make non-faculty coaches fill out time sheets. We get paid an hourly rate up to our contract amount. I made the mistake once of filling the sheet in truthfully and they kicked it back saying that they couldn't pay me that much. It turned out that 25 is the magic number.
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Post by wolverine55 on Mar 26, 2017 10:56:01 GMT -6
I'm a varsity assistant and special teams coordinator at a school of about 600. I will count teaching time in my schedule as I do have time to watch film during the school day more often than not. During the season, my workday is essentially 7 a.m.-7p.m. Monday through Thursday and then 7 a.m. to midnight on Friday nights as all of our games are on Fridays here in Iowa. We do not formally meet as a staff on Saturdays but depending on opponent, I'll watch anywhere between 2 and 5 hours of film on my own and then we meet as a staff for 2-3 hours on Sunday. So, I guess that adds up to roughly 70 hours, depending on the Saturday load. ' I am a single guy with no family, but at the risk of sounding like a softie, I'm not a "grinder." I genuinely hate film study although obviously regard it as a necessity. I pretty much have to be done with football activities at 7 on weeknights and try to do very little Sunday afternoon. I've noticed I really need those mental break times.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Mar 26, 2017 10:56:18 GMT -6
Don't want to completely change the topic but didn't want to start a totally different thread either and my question seems to be somewhat related to the topic.
My wife is wondering if there are any kind of Huey-like blogs for coaches wives. Do you guys know of anything like this?
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Post by blb on Mar 26, 2017 11:44:02 GMT -6
With teaching I put in about 80 hours a week during the season including weekends.
Nice thing about being HC is you can set the schedule.
If I had to put in 16 hours a day to teach and coach HS Football I would have had to quit coaching.
Ironic thing is more successful we were less money we made on a per hour basis because we did not get paid extra for making the playoffs. So the further we advanced the less our hourly rate was (although we were not paid on that basis).
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Post by carookie on Mar 26, 2017 12:02:35 GMT -6
Including teaching I put in about 80 hours a week during the season including weekends. Nice thing about being HC is you can set the schedule. If I had to put in 16 hours a day to teach and coach HS Football I would have had to quit coaching.Ironic thing is more successful we were less money we made on a per hour basis because we did not get paid extra for making the playoffs. So the further we advanced the less our hourly rate was (although we were not paid on that basis). If I had to put in 16 hours a day to teach and coach HS football I'd be embarrassed (same as Landry said). But then again how else could you keep up with the Joneses or brag about how many hours you put in.
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Post by badtotheflexbone on Mar 26, 2017 12:07:44 GMT -6
Don't want to completely change the topic but didn't want to start a totally different thread either and my question seems to be somewhat related to the topic. My wife is wondering if there are any kind of Huey-like blogs for coaches wives. Do you guys know of anything like this? Yes, it goes by a peculiar name Facebook. Strange I know!
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Post by badtotheflexbone on Mar 26, 2017 12:15:52 GMT -6
I'm a varsity assistant and special teams coordinator at a school of about 600. I will count teaching time in my schedule as I do have time to watch film during the school day more often than not. During the season, my workday is essentially 7 a.m.-7p.m. Monday through Thursday and then 7 a.m. to midnight on Friday nights as all of our games are on Fridays here in Iowa. We do not formally meet as a staff on Saturdays but depending on opponent, I'll watch anywhere between 2 and 5 hours of film on my own and then we meet as a staff for 2-3 hours on Sunday. So, I guess that adds up to roughly 70 hours, depending on the Saturday load. ' I am a single guy with no family, but at the risk of sounding like a softie, I'm not a "grinder." I genuinely hate film study although obviously regard it as a necessity. I pretty much have to be done with football activities at 7 on weeknights and try to do very little Sunday afternoon. I've noticed I really need those mental break times. Follow-up question, how much effect do you think working these hours have in relations to you being single with no family? In other words, do you think it hinders your chances of starting up a family? I understand that you may not want a family at the moment by choice, but if you ever did want one, would these kind of hours be negatively affecting the chances of that from happening? Other coaches feel free to chime in, although this was a "general" post, I asked because for me, there is definitely a deeper meaning behind it for me.
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Post by mrjvi on Mar 26, 2017 13:07:17 GMT -6
I'm retired from teaching and now the head coach of a small school. Right now I put in 10-12 with weights and other stuff. Summer a bit more. Fall @ 40+ counting everything. Poor pay so during the season @ $70 per week. If I count all year it's lucky to be $20 per week.
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Post by 33coach on Mar 26, 2017 14:28:32 GMT -6
Saw this and got me thinking, how many of you guys here put in similar hours per week? How big is the disparity between HC and a position assistant coach? If yes, What state? Big or small HS? (Trying to see if it even matters) If no, What is your Role and how many hours do you think you put in per week? Example: Assistant - hours put in per week? Get back coach - 3 hours put in per week (yell at players to get back during friday night, etc) im a JRHS OC in a competitive area of California (Southern Section, Soon to be Central Section). A regular week for Off Season (1 or 2 days a week -- not counting clinics or the hours spent here ): -- 3ish hours - i cant work with any kids, so mostly its communicating with coaches and watching film... A regular week for Summer Camp all the way till first game (5 days a week): -- 10 hours of practice. -- 2-5 hours of coaches meetings. -- 2-3 hours of meeting with parents, players, and perspective players. A regular week after the first game (4 days a week) -- not counting games -- 8 hours practice. -- 2-5 hours of coaches meetings. -- 2-3 hours of meeting with with parents, and players.
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Post by ttp22 on Mar 26, 2017 14:32:41 GMT -6
I'm a varsity assistant and special teams coordinator at a school of about 600. I will count teaching time in my schedule as I do have time to watch film during the school day more often than not. During the season, my workday is essentially 7 a.m.-7p.m. Monday through Thursday and then 7 a.m. to midnight on Friday nights as all of our games are on Fridays here in Iowa. We do not formally meet as a staff on Saturdays but depending on opponent, I'll watch anywhere between 2 and 5 hours of film on my own and then we meet as a staff for 2-3 hours on Sunday. So, I guess that adds up to roughly 70 hours, depending on the Saturday load. ' I am a single guy with no family, but at the risk of sounding like a softie, I'm not a "grinder." I genuinely hate film study although obviously regard it as a necessity. I pretty much have to be done with football activities at 7 on weeknights and try to do very little Sunday afternoon. I've noticed I really need those mental break times. Follow-up question, how much effect do you think working these hours have in relations to you being single with no family? In other words, do you think it hinders your chances of starting up a family? I understand that you may not want a family at the moment by choice, but if you ever did want one, would these kind of hours be negatively affecting the chances of that from happening? Other coaches feel free to chime in, although this was a "general" post, I asked because for me, there is definitely a deeper meaning behind it for me. This is one of the reasons I'm not sure coaching HS Ball in Texas is my calling. I'd eventually like to start a family but I'm young and single now, and literally have no time to go out. I also have to coach basketball, which is just as many hours as football. So from August-March I'm working 80-90 hour weeks.
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Post by badtotheflexbone on Mar 26, 2017 14:49:12 GMT -6
33coachYou're in my neck of the woods ttp22Just another passenger in the same boat
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Post by 33coach on Mar 26, 2017 14:57:00 GMT -6
33coach You're in my neck of the woods ttp22 Just another passenger in the same boat are you at PV? you should shoot me a PM, always love talking to coaches in this area.
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Post by **** on Mar 26, 2017 15:08:26 GMT -6
Def Cord 270 kids in MO
Time spent doing only football...
Summer = 15 - 25 hours a week. Depends on camp week or just weights.
Fall = 35 - 60 hours a week. The high end is towards the end of the year when I have 10 games on an opponent and I have to tag all the film. Excluding actually being on the field, basically all of my time in the fall is spent tagging film.
Off season = 10 - 15 hours a week. Lifting with kids after school and going to clinics.
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 26, 2017 15:41:49 GMT -6
A regular week for Off Season (1 or 2 days a week -- not counting clinics or the hours spent here ): -- 3ish hours - i cant work with any kids, so mostly its communicating with coaches and watching film... A regular week for Summer Camp all the way till first game (5 days a week): -- 10 hours of practice. -- 2-5 hours of coaches meetings. -- 2-3 hours of meeting with parents, players, and perspective players. A regular week after the first game (4 days a week) -- not counting games -- 8 hours practice. -- 2-5 hours of coaches meetings. -- 2-3 hours of meeting with with parents, and players. All that time at a non school related club youth team that last season you were worried about not having enough interest to field a team? Count me out.
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Post by 33coach on Mar 26, 2017 15:47:55 GMT -6
A regular week for Off Season (1 or 2 days a week -- not counting clinics or the hours spent here ): -- 3ish hours - i cant work with any kids, so mostly its communicating with coaches and watching film... A regular week for Summer Camp all the way till first game (5 days a week): -- 10 hours of practice. -- 2-5 hours of coaches meetings. -- 2-3 hours of meeting with parents, players, and perspective players. A regular week after the first game (4 days a week) -- not counting games -- 8 hours practice. -- 2-5 hours of coaches meetings. -- 2-3 hours of meeting with with parents, and players. All that time at a non school related club youth team that last season you were worried about not having enough interest to field a team? Count me out. I work the same whether the situation is good or not. Gotta work for the kids and parents you have...
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Post by blb on Mar 26, 2017 15:49:52 GMT -6
33coachWhat do you do for 2-3 hours a week meeting with parents and players?
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Post by 33coach on Mar 26, 2017 15:52:23 GMT -6
33coachWhat do you do for 2-3 hours a week meeting with parents and players? Think of it like office hours. I give myself an hour or so every couple of days to keep myself available for parents to come talk to me about anything. I started it a few years ago when we had a VERY toxic parent group... And I found that it solved some issues (and kept the toxic behavior from spreading to the parents who were talking to me).
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Post by huddlehut on Mar 26, 2017 17:40:24 GMT -6
Lots of wasted time, fellas! One day you're gonna retire and realize it. I did the same thing that you all are doing... thinking that you will outwork everyone. Can't get those years back, boys!
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Post by badtotheflexbone on Mar 26, 2017 18:00:15 GMT -6
33coach when you said soon to be Central Section, I take it as the central valley which is where I'm at. So we're probably not too close lol huddlehut I get what you're saying, but I really do enjoy/love and have passion for what is a "game" at the end of the day. It would be like never having to work a day in your life, I really do enjoy it that much. Being a young unmarried guy, What I can't predict/expect is what happens when a family comes into the picture and how does that affect things. I spend a lot of "time" thinking/daydreaming about football, I do other things (travel, being active) but then it eventually comes back around to something football related. It is not the game of football per se, but the relationships you build with the kids and the lessons you teach, that's what I preach and truly enjoy. Also seeing a perfectly executed Triple Option Pitch off of a #2 defender that goes to the house also makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
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Post by famar on Mar 26, 2017 18:17:31 GMT -6
Saw this and got me thinking, how many of you guys here put in similar hours per week? How big is the disparity between HC and a position assistant coach? If yes, What state? Big or small HS? (Trying to see if it even matters) If no, What is your Role and how many hours do you think you put in per week? Example: Assistant - hours put in per week? Get back coach - 3 hours put in per week (yell at players to get back during friday night, etc) Position Coach (WR) and scouting coordinator ( a fancy title for doing ODK and breaking down film) at large school (Group 4 of 5 groups) in Southern New Jersey. Thid past season I spent about 40-45 hrs per week on all football related activities (practice, coaches meetings, varsity and jv games, breaking down film). I'm married with no kids and my wife is a "football widow", so the balance between work and family isn't as pronounced for me.
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Post by tabs52 on Mar 26, 2017 19:36:45 GMT -6
OL coach/LB coach AA school in PA about 180 boys Mon-Thurs about 20 at practice I get there about 230 out about 600 Friday-Usually depending on game and where but usually spend about 6-7 hours on game day Saturday-Film in the Am with coaches an additional 3-4 hours
At home about 10-15 hours
This has nothing to do with productivity, this is just the bare minimum.
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Post by theycallitpower on Mar 27, 2017 7:54:55 GMT -6
Lots of wasted time, fellas! One day you're gonna retire and realize it. I did the same thing that you all are doing... thinking that you will outwork everyone. Can't get those years back, boys! I may not get the years back...but, in the State of Texas...where a large majority of the communities live and die by Friday nights...you better be working and you better win or you won't have a job. The pressure is TREMENDOUS to win...just like Coach Vint said. I'm not saying Texas HS football is better. I know there is great football in almost every state. What I am saying is the commitment and the investment from the Community is incredible. We coach in better stadiums than a lot of Universities at the FCS and D2 level play in. I currently work at a school that has a stadium that seats 18k with artificial turf and we have an indoor facility. Our practice fields have turf outside. We just passed a bond to build us a new 8,000 square foot weight room. We have to win. It's a 'win at all costs' mentality. It may be wrong...but, it's the truth. It is what it is. When I left the college level...I worked in a 4a level school (3a back then - 900 students)...pop of the town was around 12,000 people. We came in at 6 am on Sunday mornings to work...we broke for church at 10 am and came back at 2 pm. We had to leave vehicles in the parking lot (instructed by the AD/HC) so people would drive by and think we were still working. If we did not...they would call the principal and the Supt. Not kidding.
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