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Post by wiscoach on Aug 10, 2016 10:30:25 GMT -6
God {censored} dammit I feel bad. It was a long extended battle and I shoulda called a draw or something. He is a sopohmore, was starting both ways and was our best weight room attendance kid, great attitude, loves football.
we've got no one behind him on both sides of the ball.
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 10, 2016 10:53:07 GMT -6
God {censored} dammit I feel bad. It was a long extended battle and I shoulda called a draw or something. He is a sopohmore, was starting both ways and was our best weight room attendance kid, great attitude, loves football. we've got no one behind him on both sides of the ball. {censored}. Tough one. Best you can really do is carry it with you, have a quicker whistle, and start working on replacing his hole. Lost a terrific RT because she (yeah!) took a funny hit in 1v1s and got a mild concussion which freaked her out and that was that. I've been puzzling over how I could've avoided that, but that's the way it goes. Upside to the whole thing is I've gained a terrific student coach/manager, sounds like you did, too. |
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Post by wiscoach on Aug 10, 2016 11:12:07 GMT -6
[quote source="/post/782741/thread" author=" wiscoach" timestamp="1470846625" [/i]. [/quote]Tough one. Best you can really do is carry it with you, have a quicker whistle, and start working on replacing his hole. Lost a terrific RT because she (yeah!) took a funny hit in 1v1s and got a mild concussion which freaked her out and that was that. I've been puzzling over how I could've avoided that, but that's the way it goes. Upside to the whole thing is I've gained a terrific student coach/manager, sounds like you did, too. [/quote] Thanks coach. Anyone want to chime in on how they run king of the boards? I've always loved the drill because we are very low on contact and I like to tell the guys that the effort they use on the boards is the effort we need on every play. Now I'm scared to run it again. |
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Post by fantom on Aug 10, 2016 11:21:36 GMT -6
Anyone want to chime in on how they run king of the boards? [/quote] We don't. We do it maybe once, early on, to find out which pups are willing to bite them move on. There's limited time and other priorities. |
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Post by 33coach on Aug 10, 2016 11:30:05 GMT -6
God {censored} dammit I feel bad. It was a long extended battle and I shoulda called a draw or something. He is a sopohmore, was starting both ways and was our best weight room attendance kid, great attitude, loves football. we've got no one behind him on both sides of the ball. {censored}. yea that sucks. dont want to pile on but, we dont let our kids go long enough to hurt each other. the moment i sense a stalemate - I have them stop, stand up, and reset again. although this comes from my years of 1 injury means we dont have enough to field a team..... |
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Post by wiscoach on Aug 10, 2016 11:31:28 GMT -6
Anyone want to chime in on how they run king of the boards? We don't. We do it maybe once, early on, to find out which pups are willing to bite them move on. There's limited time and other priorities.[/quote] Do you do any other competitive fun drills coach? The kids get fired up and excited when they hear it's boards or reach the reacher. I love the intensity and fun. Maybe I'll drop boards and keep reach the reacher. It seems like a very low risk drill. |
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 10, 2016 11:33:21 GMT -6
[quote source="/post/782741/thread" author=" wiscoach" timestamp="1470846625" [/i]. [/quote]Tough one. Best you can really do is carry it with you, have a quicker whistle, and start working on replacing his hole. Lost a terrific RT because she (yeah!) took a funny hit in 1v1s and got a mild concussion which freaked her out and that was that. I've been puzzling over how I could've avoided that, but that's the way it goes. Upside to the whole thing is I've gained a terrific student coach/manager, sounds like you did, too. [/quote] Thanks coach. Anyone want to chime in on how they run king of the boards? I've always loved the drill because we are very low on contact and I like to tell the guys that the effort they use on the boards is the effort we need on every play. Now I'm scared to run it again. [/quote] Honestly, we just ditch the boards notion and get after it. Setup: two players of same position/ability roughly two feet apart (the LOS). Linemen types have their hands on the ground, standup types are in 2 pt stances. Start: offensive player starts the drill by moving, same as in game. They try to drive each other off the ball until they hear the whistle. Objective: teach effort, intensity, and footwork. It's not a very technical period and it's only 6-8 minutes, but it's daily and part of our routine. When we block bad guys like we play in 1v1s, doesn't matter who we play or what we run. |
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Post by wiscoach on Aug 10, 2016 11:41:50 GMT -6
God {censored} dammit I feel bad. It was a long extended battle and I shoulda called a draw or something. He is a sopohmore, was starting both ways and was our best weight room attendance kid, great attitude, loves football. we've got no one behind him on both sides of the ball. {censored}. yea that sucks. dont want to pile on but, we dont let our kids go long enough to hurt each other. the moment i sense a stalemate - I have them stop, stand up, and reset again. although this comes from my years of 1 injury means we dont have enough to field a team..... Thanks coach. I'll do it that way if we run the drill again. This is my first year full time and I just ran it how I remember doing it. It wasn't even on the schedule but we had lightning so we were inside for our early practice and I wanted something to get the kids fired up... |
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 10, 2016 12:09:50 GMT -6
yea that sucks. dont want to pile on but, we dont let our kids go long enough to hurt each other. the moment i sense a stalemate - I have them stop, stand up, and reset again. although this comes from my years of 1 injury means we dont have enough to field a team..... Thanks coach. I'll do it that way if we run the drill again. This is my first year full time and I just ran it how I remember doing it. It wasn't even on the schedule but we had lightning so we were inside for our early practice and I wanted something to get the kids fired up... Food for thought: we don't present it as a 'hype' period but rather explain that it's about learning to give an intense effort every time. We do celebrate pancakes and good 'battles', but that's just part of football. |
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Post by dubber on Aug 10, 2016 20:21:21 GMT -6
We use to do it once a week.
What we noticed was our technique went to crap when we did Kings.
We haven't done it for 3 seasons and haven't missed it.
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Post by coachwoodall on Aug 10, 2016 20:33:14 GMT -6
Not to be trite, but injuries happen. I've had a kid tear up each of his knees in successive years in non contact situations during the spring; just freak things. He was a kid that we were counting on to be a major contributor who never ended up playing a meaningful down for us.
So far as doing a board drill or any drill, only do a drill that will translate to what you want to see show up on film.
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Post by silkyice on Aug 10, 2016 21:35:10 GMT -6
Do you do any other competitive fun drills coach? The kids get fired up and excited when they hear it's boards or reach the reacher. I love the intensity and fun. Maybe I'll drop boards and keep reach the reacher. It seems like a very low risk drill. Reach the reacher? |
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Post by utchuckd on Aug 10, 2016 21:42:11 GMT -6
Do you do any other competitive fun drills coach? The kids get fired up and excited when they hear it's boards or reach the reacher. I love the intensity and fun. Maybe I'll drop boards and keep reach the reacher. It seems like a very low risk drill. Reach the reacher? Line 2 guys up facing each other like on the LOS. They both try to reach each other going the same direction, like it's sweep right for one of them and sweep left for the other one. Good pairs can fight the width of the field. |
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Post by coachklee on Aug 11, 2016 0:36:05 GMT -6
Do you do any other competitive fun drills coach? The kids get fired up and excited when they hear it's boards or reach the reacher. I love the intensity and fun. Maybe I'll drop boards and keep reach the reacher. It seems like a very low risk drill. Reach the reacher? |
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Post by coachklee on Aug 11, 2016 0:37:51 GMT -6
Line 2 guys up facing each other like on the LOS. They both try to reach each other going the same direction, like it's sweep right for one of them and sweep left for the other one. Good pairs can fight the width of the field. We had a sophomore & senior end up 55 some yards into the old guy's yard on the opposite side of the field yesterday!!! |
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Post by realdawg on Aug 11, 2016 4:01:36 GMT -6
yea that sucks, sorry coach. We had a kid who wouldnt play much do the same thing monday, and has a starting strong safety break his leg in an intrasquad scrimmage saturday.
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Post by silkyice on Aug 11, 2016 6:01:35 GMT -6
Line 2 guys up facing each other like on the LOS. They both try to reach each other going the same direction, like it's sweep right for one of them and sweep left for the other one. Good pairs can fight the width of the field. That is what I envisioned. Great drill. Thank you! |
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Post by silkyice on Aug 11, 2016 6:01:48 GMT -6
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Post by raymul313 on Aug 13, 2016 6:49:34 GMT -6
I recently saw a video on twitter where a youth coach did the same King of the Boards with two cones and string looks much harder to hurt yourself
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Post by fantom on Aug 13, 2016 8:39:20 GMT -6
The fact that I don't do the drill regularly doesn't mean that I think that it's intrinsically dangerous. Maybe the OP let it go too long, maybe not. Maybe that contributed to the injury, maybe not. We do everything that we can to make things as safe as possible but people get hurt.
We lost a starting lineman to an ACL injury last year. Total fluke. Unpadded practice, he was pulling for a screen and a bag-holder who wasn't even looking his way brushed into him.
Things happen.
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Post by wiscoach on Aug 13, 2016 16:54:51 GMT -6
Got some good news actually. Our trainer waa sure it was an ACL because they "couldn't feel the ACL" I guess when it's torn you can't feel it or something like that.
He went to doctor next day and they said meniscus and it could be 2 or 3 weeks, or it could be the whole season.
Worst case at least he's gonna get to play bball and run track.
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Post by coachwoodall on Aug 13, 2016 17:27:49 GMT -6
Got some good news actually. Our trainer waa sure it was an ACL because they "couldn't feel the ACL" I guess when it's torn you can't feel it or something like that. He went to doctor next day and they said meniscus and it could be 2 or 3 weeks, or it could be the whole season. Worst case at least he's gonna get to play bball and run track. It will mostly be a pain tolerance thing then |
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Post by **** on Aug 13, 2016 17:53:59 GMT -6
Got some good news actually. Our trainer waa sure it was an ACL because they "couldn't feel the ACL" I guess when it's torn you can't feel it or something like that. He went to doctor next day and they said meniscus and it could be 2 or 3 weeks, or it could be the whole season. Worst case at least he's gonna get to play bball and run track. If he tore his ACL it will feel like his is calf/foot is dangling from his knee by a thread and is about to fall off. Been there, but my knee was completely blown out. |
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Post by footballguy2427 on Aug 13, 2016 19:59:58 GMT -6
Got some good news actually. Our trainer waa sure it was an ACL because they "couldn't feel the ACL" I guess when it's torn you can't feel it or something like that. He went to doctor next day and they said meniscus and it could be 2 or 3 weeks, or it could be the whole season. Worst case at least he's gonna get to play bball and run track. It will mostly be a pain tolerance thing then I'm not a coach, OP, but Coach Woodall hit it right on the head. When I injured my meniscus I couldn't do any serious physical activity on it for a month or two. After that the pain seemed to come and go for me, and till this day there's certain things I'm not able to do (I never had the surgery to fix it, guess I should look into that someday). If I run on flat ground I'm fine, along with some cuts and turns. But if the ground is uneven (maybe in a park or something) and I step in a hole, or make a sudden movement, it's a sharp pain for a few seconds. I hope your kid turns out alright, no knee injury is fun. |
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