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Post by wingtol on Apr 1, 2007 15:47:06 GMT -6
117 NCAA DI Coaches refuse to run the double wing because they are ego-maniacs trying to prove they are 'geniuses'
but there exists small pockets of 'enlightened' individuals who run the Double Wing at midget-league, Middle School, and a few select high schools. This double wing has no equal, cannot be stopped, and resistance against it is futile. These individuals will be raptured in the final days and be spared the 120 years of torment by the Dragon and Harlet......er....wait........that was sarcasm there, folks, in case you missed it.Dude you owe me a new keybaord since I just spit a whole bottle of watter all over it as I was reading that LMOA. Good to see some people can have a sense of humor and still keep things serious
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Post by coachsky on Apr 1, 2007 16:13:57 GMT -6
117 NCAA DI Coaches refuse to run the double wing because they are ego-maniacs trying to prove they are 'geniuses' but there exists small pockets of 'enlightened' individuals who run the Double Wing at midget-league, Middle School, and a few select high schools. This double wing has no equal, cannot be stopped, and resistance against it is futile. These individuals will be raptured in the final days and be spared the 120 years of torment by the Dragon and Harlet......er....wait........that was sarcasm there, folks, in case you missed it. While i know this post is intended to be funny, and it is, there is a deafening ring of truth to it! There is no football scheme "grassy knoll", no conspiracy, no "dw Area 51". ! If you could win at higher levels with the DW people would be running it! At sometime or another common sense needs to prevail. From what I can tell the only major high school running the DW with any success is Clovis, is very multiple! They run more than 8 plays out of one formation. This is in no way a statement against DW coaches. Those guys know their stuff and are totally committed to their scheme, obviously its working for them or they wouldn't be running it. Calande says it growing, he's probably right. That doesn't mean we are going to see it winnning state championships on a regular basis, next year or in the next 20 years. Call it what it is; a very good youth, middles school, and small high school offense. It's different enough to cause problems for defenses that don't face it regularly. In it's basic form it is too one dimensional to be successful in major high school or college football. What it is!
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Post by coachcalande on Apr 1, 2007 16:55:09 GMT -6
"If you could win at higher levels with the DW people would be running it! At sometime or another common sense needs to prevail."
well, thats the same kind of crap arguement I have heard about the single wing too...and now what? look at all the threads here about the single wing this year...why? Because Florida wins the national championship and runs a few single wing plays. suddenly the swing is reborn. Just because something isnt in style doesnt mean it doesnt work. I would wager that if you pulled over ..say...Andy Reid and said "Andy, can you draw up the core plays of the Markham double wing?"...he couldnt do it. My guess is that most of those guys have never seen nor heard of of a markham style dw...I would wager that most of them have never studied the dw to any extent...single wing maybe, dw, doubtful.
Just my guess and sure, I could be wrong...but dont think that something doesnt work if its not in fashion at the highest level...im sure there was a time when folks said that about empty backfields, ace backfields or any other offense.
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Post by coachcalande on Apr 1, 2007 17:02:21 GMT -6
117 NCAA DI Coaches refuse to run the double wing because they are ego-maniacs trying to prove they are 'geniuses' but there exists small pockets of 'enlightened' individuals who run the Double Wing at midget-league, Middle School, and a few select high schools. This double wing has no equal, cannot be stopped, and resistance against it is futile. These individuals will be raptured in the final days and be spared the 120 years of torment by the Dragon and Harlet......er....wait........that was sarcasm there, folks, in case you missed it. While i know this post is intended to be funny, and it is, there is a deafening ring of truth to it! There is no football scheme "grassy knoll", no conspiracy, no "dw Area 51". ! If you could win at higher levels with the DW people would be running it! At sometime or another common sense needs to prevail. From what I can tell the only major high school running the DW with any success is Clovis, is very multiple! They run more than 8 plays out of one formation. This is in no way a statement against DW coaches. Those guys know their stuff and are totally committed to their scheme, obviously its working for them or they wouldn't be running it. Calande says it growing, he's probably right. That doesn't mean we are going to see it winnning state championships on a regular basis, next year or in the next 20 years. Call it what it is; a very good youth, middles school, and small high school offense. It's different enough to cause problems for defenses that don't face it regularly. In it's basic form it is too one dimensional to be successful in major high school or college football. What it is! Ok, there is no super duper offense...no unbeatable scheme. No arguement from me there...however when posts like this recent one appear on the double wing forums, whats your answer for the schools sudden change in fortunes? " Double Wing Success « Thread Started on Mar 29, 2007, 9:00am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have been a double wing guy for six years taking over a program that was 1-29 before I got there. The last 5 years we have gone 44-16. I am writing my thesis for my master's on the double wing. Part of my thesis on the success of the double wing. Coaches of all levels could you talk about your success you have had running the double wing. What program was like before you took over, your record running the double wing, why you think it has succeeded, anything would be great. If you don't have that much time just your record and points per game would be great. The more data I gather the more convincing paper. Thanks in advance. " do you discount the scheme completely? Do you just chalk it up to some new influx of great athletes? same deal with Bloomington, 1-9 one year, next year they go 14-0 and set the scoring record...did the level of competetion really change? do you discount the scheme? is Don markham a genius? how about Foothills...0-10 one year, 10-0 the next, set the scoring record for a 10 game season in the process...discount the scheme again?... I am sure that clovis East has the fastest rise to playoffs for a new high school program as well...again, double wing offense...should we discount that? obviously its worth looking at.
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Post by Coach Huey on Apr 1, 2007 17:03:53 GMT -6
Locking this thread.
Prefer we keep threads/posts from other forums ON OTHER FORUMS.
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