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Post by wingtol on Dec 8, 2006 9:37:22 GMT -6
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Post by homeoftheo on Dec 8, 2006 9:54:29 GMT -6
I'm like, `Damn, I'm glad I'm Chris Rainey. It's real nice to be me.' ''
And I will bet he still thinks it's cool to be him too.
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Post by fbdoc on Dec 8, 2006 10:31:07 GMT -6
True or not, the kid obviously shot his mouth off without thinking about the consequences. The FHSAA still may find that he violated rules and Lakeland - since they're planning on playing him - might have to forfeit the title. Although it is refreshing to see a public school beat St. Thomas, the best (or at least one of the best in Florida) team money can buy.
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Post by 50Murf on Dec 8, 2006 11:11:10 GMT -6
Has he committed to to Miami yet??
That is the kind of thing that they do at the "U"....
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Post by wingt74 on Dec 8, 2006 13:08:23 GMT -6
What an idiot.
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Post by wolfden12 on Dec 8, 2006 13:21:31 GMT -6
Sad again that this is beginning to happen. Alot harder for kids to say no when they have so little. Need to educate athletes especially the elite ones younger so these things stop happening.
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Post by blb on Dec 8, 2006 13:33:36 GMT -6
His comment "It's great to be (Chris Rainey)," may change to "Sucks to be me" if NCAA rules him ineligible, too!
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Post by bearcat4life on Dec 8, 2006 15:27:29 GMT -6
You know what where is the parents or the authority figures at. Don't put all the weight on the kid because that's all he is . With all the directions that he is probably being pulled in ,he seems to lack some positive direction. Not to mention what the rules are.
And someone is setting him up to fail. Most young guys have trouble dealing with all the hype that surrounds being a big time player like that anyway , and need direction. So if all he has is TV ESPN staring Terrell Owens he's right on track don't you think?
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Post by 50Murf on Dec 8, 2006 16:25:07 GMT -6
BLB -
Hey that is a GREAT point! I kind of wish they would - maybe he would get a clear picture on how to do things.
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Post by blackfly73 on Dec 8, 2006 21:33:46 GMT -6
You know what where is the parents or the authority figures at. Don't put all the weight on the kid because that's all he is . With all the directions that he is probably being pulled in ,he seems to lack some positive direction. Not to mention what the rules are. And someone is setting him up to fail. Most young guys have trouble dealing with all the hype that surrounds being a big time player like that anyway , and need direction. So if all he has is TV ESPN staring Terrell Owens he's right on track don't you think? Ultimately we're all responsible for our own choices in life. There are MANY athletes who grew up in similar situations who DON'T exhibit this behaviour... but have all the 'excuses' to do so. That 'kid' is what, almost 18 now? He ain't a 'kid' any longer... he's a young adult... and responsible for his own behaviour and actions. Yes... he may not have had the best guidance... but he still makes his own choices. If the parents didn't support the behaviour... who do we blame next - TO? Rap? I really feel that it is VERY easy to always place blame someplace else - but it is alot harder to shoulder PERSONAL responsibility. When we make people personally responsible for their choices in life - and accept the consequences without excuse - we truly empower young athletes to become men and succeed in life.
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Post by fbdoc on Dec 8, 2006 22:26:21 GMT -6
Rainey plays and helps Lakeland beat St. Thomas in overtime.
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Post by wildcat on Dec 8, 2006 22:32:45 GMT -6
You know what where is the parents or the authority figures at. Don't put all the weight on the kid because that's all he is . With all the directions that he is probably being pulled in ,he seems to lack some positive direction. Not to mention what the rules are. And someone is setting him up to fail. Most young guys have trouble dealing with all the hype that surrounds being a big time player like that anyway , and need direction. So if all he has is TV ESPN staring Terrell Owens he's right on track don't you think? Ultimately we're all responsible for our own choices in life. There are MANY athletes who grew up in similar situations who DON'T exhibit this behaviour... but have all the 'excuses' to do so. That 'kid' is what, almost 18 now? He ain't a 'kid' any longer... he's a young adult... and responsible for his own behaviour and actions. Yes... he may not have had the best guidance... but he still makes his own choices. If the parents didn't support the behaviour... who do we blame next - TO? Rap? I really feel that it is VERY easy to always place blame someplace else - but it is alot harder to shoulder PERSONAL responsibility. When we make people personally responsible for their choices in life - and accept the consequences without excuse - we truly empower young athletes to become men and succeed in life. That SOUNDS all well and good...problem is, in this kid's case, that has not happened. My guess is that this kid has been told as soon as he started running with a football that he could do no wrong and that the world was his playground. How can you expect a kid, in those circumstances, to know right from wrong? When every adult in your life has looked the other way or even encouraged antisocial behavior because they look at you as a meal ticket rather than as a immature child in a man's body, how can you expect a kid to make the "right" choice? Now, this kid MAY pay the price for his trangressions, but, more likely than not, he won't. Chances are very good that this kid will be rewarded with a college scholarship and will continue to live a charmed life. How is the lesson learned?
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Post by homeoftheo on Dec 9, 2006 3:23:03 GMT -6
Simple Question:
Where is the coach during all this?
I know all of you coaches here would take this kid in and guide him down the proper path.
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Post by wildcat on Dec 9, 2006 6:53:43 GMT -6
Simple Question: Where is the coach during all this? I know all of you coaches here would take this kid in and guide him down the proper path. Bingo.
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Post by coachdawhip on Dec 9, 2006 8:19:26 GMT -6
Where is the coach during all this?
Say what you want about coaches being able to stop that but you can't watch them 24/7.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 9, 2006 8:53:23 GMT -6
Hopefully he learns his lesson this time around; it'd be a shame to see this kid piss away a free college education because he's doing the same crap in college.
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Post by wildcat on Dec 9, 2006 13:22:38 GMT -6
Where is the coach during all this? Say what you want about coaches being able to stop that but you can't watch them 24/7. I agree...but I also have a hard time believing that his coaches, teachers, parents, school administraters, teammates, etc, etc, didn't know that something untoward was going on. According to the article, this kid didn't exactly try and hide the fact that he was receiving all of this largesse and "generosity". Just another sad case of a young person SO talented that the adults who stand to gain from that talent are blinded to what their responsibility needs to be...
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Post by coachdawhip on Dec 9, 2006 16:21:59 GMT -6
I also have a hard time believing that his coaches, teachers, parents, school administraters, teammates, etc, etc, didn't know that something untoward was going on. According to the article, this kid didn't exactly try and hide the fact that he was receiving all of this largesse and "generosity".
I agree 2 points, though A) If you are at a school where everyone has money no way of telling where there getting it from B) if the area is inner-city, but all the kids have it, no way to tell where they are all getting it from.
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Post by jman on Dec 9, 2006 18:32:08 GMT -6
We all coach teenagers and we all know how they can "expand" the truth. He may have said some crazy things but I think we should all reserve judgement and let the authorities do their jobs. We all have to be careful about making judgments on a kids character based on one newspaper article. He may be a fine young man by all standards but just made a silly mistake with his mouth. At least I hope so.
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Post by fbdoc on Dec 10, 2006 11:49:01 GMT -6
Another example of South Florida's finest. The MVP for 6-A Miami Northwestern was arrested earlier in the week for Sexual Battery on a 14 year old. Gets released and plays in State Championship game
Quote from the Ft. Lauderdale Sun Sentinel - "Northwestern's standout running back, Antwain Easterling, who was arrested on Thursday on charges of lewd and lascivious battery, was cleared to play by the school's principal. Easterling ran for a game-high 157 yards on 21 carries with one touchdown. "
I'm all for innocent until proven guilty but this stuff is crazy.
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Post by tedseay on Dec 11, 2006 7:41:18 GMT -6
was cleared to play by the school's principal. Easterling ran for a game-high 157 yards on 21 carries with one touchdown. Doc: That principal could not have made his priorities any clearer.
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Post by coachcanuck on Dec 11, 2006 13:16:41 GMT -6
Please keep in mind, I am in Canada and am coming from an entirely different background and environment when it comes to football, or even most sports.
That being said, I am aware of NCAA rules regarding maintaining amateur status, etc. but have to ask one question, why? In particular what is wrong with this kid taking some things people are willing to give him, even if it is just because he plays some HS football? I understand it goes against the rules but what is the basis for these rules that makes them "universally acceptable"?
Part of the reason why all this seems so surprising to me is this, what are the odds this kid will ever make any money off football? As coaches and/or administrators we all know how few will really go somewhere with their respective sport which is why we have to encourage them towards academics, etc. but if during their time in their sport, in that spotlight, someone for whatever reason feels they would like to give the kid a little something where is the harm?
I mean does anyone else see the irony that others are making money off the attributes/time/commitment of these kids but in turn deny them any extras that may help them out in life, especially those kids from impoverished homes.
Finally, does anyone else find it weird that kids playing sports has become such big business? (That may be a topic for another thread)
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Post by coachroberts99 on Dec 13, 2006 6:36:26 GMT -6
Beat me to it. Over here in England it's a million miles apart... but the rule seems to clearly state...
"A student who has accepted remuneration, gift or donation for participation in a sport . . . is thereafter disqualified"
Well in my book he received payment for an autograph and because some old dear likes him he got some money not for participating in sport.... I appreciate most of the responses will be along the lines of "it's a slippery slope" but I think some of the reactions are a little OTT.
Also at 18 he is still a kid.... yes, more mature than a 12 year old, but the fact is I'm sure if we all sat down and wrote a list of all the things we would have done differently it would be pretty frightening, and I reckon we would chalk most of them down to being young and inexperienced.
But again, I could be wildly off the mark; and if so apologies.
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