needknowledge
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Post by needknowledge on Mar 3, 2006 9:17:51 GMT -6
This is my one and only poll question. I respect the knowledge and opinions of all on this board, the best football site known to modern human history! A vote would be great, or give a reason as to why you voted for your choice. Or, if there's someone I left off that should be considered. Please vote for your choice! Thank you.
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Post by cqmiller on Mar 3, 2006 10:02:54 GMT -6
hard to choose between all those guys.
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Post by saintrad on Mar 3, 2006 10:41:08 GMT -6
eddie robinson becasue of the on the field AND off the field issues.
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needknowledge
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Post by needknowledge on Mar 3, 2006 10:58:22 GMT -6
Coach Kerehes of Mt. Union and Coach Gag of St.John's are two very good coaches as well. Each dominate their division and have done so for years. Also, I regret leaving Bill Snyder of KSU off the list. What he did at K-State amounts to digging a up a grave, opening the coffin and bringing the body back to life after 50 years of death. Well, maybe thats over-stating it, but it's close. He and Hayden Fry were a heck of a team at Iowa.....
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Post by airman on Mar 3, 2006 11:58:19 GMT -6
my vote is for frosty westering. he coached at pac lutheran for 30 years I believe.
best human being I know. nicest man you would ever want to meet.
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bighit65
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Post by bighit65 on Mar 3, 2006 12:01:49 GMT -6
I KNOW HE TOOK OVER A POWER BUT WHAT ABOUT BARRY SWITZER? 157-29!! HE COACHED 16 YEARS AND THEY WON THE BIG EIGHT 12 TIMES!!AND WENT TO A BOWL GAME 13 OUT OF HIS 16 YEARS. ALSO A GREAT GUY . BUT JUST MY OPINION.
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Post by airman on Mar 3, 2006 12:03:47 GMT -6
I KNOW HE TOOK OVER A POWER BUT WHAT ABOUT BARRY SWITZER? 157-29!! HE COACHED 16 YEARS AND THEY WON THE BIG EIGHT 12 TIMES!!AND WENT TO A BOWL GAME 13 OUT OF HIS 16 YEARS. ALSO A GREAT GUY . BUT JUST MY OPINION. it was too bad his players off the field behavior got him canned. the one guy was caught shooting a ak 47 into the sky. |
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needknowledge
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Post by needknowledge on Mar 3, 2006 12:16:57 GMT -6
Switzer is the very best example of the talent doing the winning. His recruiting was outta this world, for sure. Maybe the best recruiter ever.
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Post by bighit65 on Mar 3, 2006 17:23:25 GMT -6
it wasnt an ak47 haah it was actually a .22 believe it or not it was addressed in his book and boz's.
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Post by blb on Mar 3, 2006 17:25:50 GMT -6
With all due respect, Tom Osborne wasn't even the best coach at Nebraska. Anybody hear of Bob Devaney? Maybe the youth on this board is showing.
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Post by beatdown on Mar 3, 2006 18:55:00 GMT -6
What alot of people don't know about Switzer is that for every turd he had play for him, he had dozens of great young men... There was a safety that played for him who drowned saving a childs life. This is just one such example of what some of his former players have done.
All programs have issues with players. Even Osborne had Peters and Phillips.
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Post by knighter on Mar 3, 2006 19:34:20 GMT -6
woody hayes
love him
the rest are excellent as well
i do not see Hayden Fry on the list...i'd have voted for him.
loved switzer as well (gotta love that bone baby!)
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Post by pegleg on Mar 3, 2006 20:43:35 GMT -6
ok since no one else seems to agree let me chime in on wilkinson.
invinted the 50 and won 54 straight. 3 titles and innumerable big 6/8 titles.
decent resume i guess.
oh yeah, those of you who know me know i hate the gooners. so this post kills me, but he HAS to be the best college coach EVER.
Holla
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Post by tog on Mar 3, 2006 21:30:39 GMT -6
i voted wilkinson too
hard to argue with that record and innovations
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Post by beatdown on Mar 4, 2006 1:25:29 GMT -6
47 straight, not 54
(edited for spelling)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2006 11:16:40 GMT -6
Though i didn't vote for Rockne, he did some impressive things that have been lost in history, most of them off the field.
I picked Joe Paterno because of how he's evolved. When an offensive change was needed he green-lighted the way for his assistants to get the offense they wanted. He was able to keep longtime assistants happy--guys like Sandusky who spent most of their careers with him. He took a longtime independent team and put them into one of the oldest and strongest conferences. He continues to recruit players from home (Pennsylvania) which keeps the locals happy and he goes out and gets the big talent. The uniforms show that he's not out to win public opinion contests and are as much a testament to the history of college football as Oregon's uniforms are a footnote.
He doesn't coach any more and admits it though he lends the philosophy. And most of all, after all these years he still loves it.
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Post by blb on Mar 4, 2006 11:56:02 GMT -6
Bo Schembechler once said, "All modern football began with Bear Bryant."
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Post by phantom on Mar 4, 2006 18:10:19 GMT -6
I voted for Bryant then changed my mind. I'm not a Notre Dame fan but here's the case for Knute Rockne:
13 years as a HC before dying in a plane crash at 43
Record: 105-12-5 That's right. 12 losses in 13 years.
.881 winning percentage (highest among all coaches).
6 National Championships.
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needknowledge
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Post by needknowledge on Mar 5, 2006 9:00:31 GMT -6
Interesting chioces. Bobby Bowden was not my choice, but ELEVEN CONSECUTIVE TOP 4 finishes in the AP poll?!!! I mean, if that alone dosen't make you sit down and put your hands on your head at the very thought of that, I don't know what will. He has not gotten even one vote, so that is shocking.
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Post by meyerspread on Mar 5, 2006 9:31:28 GMT -6
Look... it is easy to name all of the old time coaches with great players which lead to amazing records and programs... but instead, look at the coaches who actually had to COACH... Look at Urban Meyer... he turned a 2-8 team into an 8-3 team in one year!, and he won with players that he didnt recruit! Then, he turned a 5-6 Utah team into a 10-2 team... in ONE YEAR... This is just my input on it... but look for Meyer at Florida to win a national champ. in the next 5 yrs with the spread option... which I personally believe is the best in all of football, but that is for another board... Meyer definitely deserves discussion at the very least.
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needknowledge
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Post by needknowledge on Mar 5, 2006 9:51:00 GMT -6
This discussion is about the greatest of all-time. Not about a guy who has been a head coach for 5 years. Bring up Urban's name in 20 years.
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Post by utchuckd on Mar 5, 2006 10:42:29 GMT -6
Had to vote for Bryant. Even though my personal pick would be General Neyland. Does the fact that half of my clothes are orange, Tennessee orange for you Texas guys  mean I'm biased? |
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Post by blb on Mar 5, 2006 11:03:55 GMT -6
Re Rockne: His accomplishments are immortal. He helped put college football in the collective consciousness of the country. As a a fellow Norwegian, reading his biography in elementary school helped put me on my career path.
HOWEVER - his record is tempered somewhat (ever so slightly) by the fact that ND was one of the few who could (and did) recruit nationally during that era, and that some of his wins came over those noted football powerhouses Beloit, Kalamazoo, etc.
Even though I'm a Big Ten-Midwest guy, I had to vote for Bryant. He won at Kentucky (!), A&M, and at Alabama (which had been losing) throwing with Namath and Stabler, and later running the Wishbone. Nobody has had more double-digit win seasons or national championships.
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needknowledge
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Post by needknowledge on Mar 5, 2006 19:20:08 GMT -6
I admit it, I picked Coach Osborne. I looked at 2 very important aspects. #1. Difficulty of recruiting. Getting a boy with 4.4 speed from Los Angeles(Lawrence Phillips) and an option GOD from Florida(Tommie Frazier)while they took their recruiting visits during freezing ice and snow storms in Lincoln, Nebraska. Bringing talent to a place where there is not much(none, actually) social life was amazing. And we all know how 18 year old boys think!!
#2. I look at how many times he had to go to FLORIDA to lose Orange Bowl games, to FLORIDA teams!!!! If all of those games vs. FSU and Miami were at real neutral sites, he'd have 6 national titles. Coach Osborne would never make excuses, but those are totally legitimate reasons for the bowl losses.
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Post by lacoach on Mar 5, 2006 22:02:45 GMT -6
I voted for Bear Bryant. In my opinion, he is the greatest coach that has ever walked the sideline. He is Alabama Football and will always be. I am a huge Bama fan, but even if I wasn't a Bama fan I still think he was the best coach. 323-85-17, 13 sec champ., 8 time sec coach of the year, 2 time national coach of the year, 24 straight bowl appearances, and 6 National Championships. Roll Tide
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needknowledge
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Post by needknowledge on Mar 6, 2006 18:29:59 GMT -6
Bryant's 24 bowl appearences in a row is amazing. Since they didn't have as many bowls back then like they do today.
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Post by meyerspread on Mar 7, 2006 17:14:45 GMT -6
yes... I know I was certainly going out on a limb... but I believe those 1st few years are the most important... I dont care who has the best players and simply wins on talent. It is easy to name those players... I want to see how they got there, and I think Meyer has changed the game in a dramatic way
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Post by coachdawhip on Mar 7, 2006 18:51:13 GMT -6
Eddie Robinson,
He did what he did in a place that didn't have the funds of Bama and the record speaks for itself.
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needknowledge
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Post by needknowledge on Mar 8, 2006 17:01:23 GMT -6
It seems like the masses are speaking very loudly. Bear's got the lead on the scoreboard again, much like the 50's, 60's and 70's!
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Post by pegleg on Mar 9, 2006 9:10:45 GMT -6
With all due respect, Tom Osborne wasn't even the best coach at Nebraska. Anybody hear of Bob Devaney? Maybe the youth on this board is showing. i can't believe osborne is even on the list, much less in second? if he is on the list, why isn't switzer on the list? they did EXCATLY the same thing. that is take over an established program and continue/improve it. solich and gibbs couldn't, because they weren't great head coaches. for my money the greatest coaches of all time are 2 things #1 winners and #2 inovators. thats why guys like bryant, rockne, wilkinson, robinson, paterno, et al should be included. or how about darrell royal? all he did was invent the wishbone, oklahoma copied it because it was kicking their ass every year. Holla |
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mean I'm biased?
