mojoben
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Post by mojoben on Oct 31, 2007 10:23:12 GMT -6
As many of you know on here, Smith Center, Kansas has a rich and great tradition lead by the legend of the "Barta Bone", Roger Barta.
Well last night they beat one of their in-league rivals Plainville 83-0 in the first round of the 2A playoffs. They had beaten Plainville earlier this year 72-0 as well. They had to call the state of Kansas to request a continues clock for the 2nd half. Since it is the playoffs, there isn't that rule inforced in Kansas. The state granted there wishes. Basically Smith Center had there WHOLE team played by early to mid 2nd quarter.
They scored 72 points in the first quarter off of 5+ fumbles and at least 1 INT. That isn't counting the extremely quick scoring off those turnovers. Plainville didn't get their first 3 and out until 11 seconds left in the 1st quarter. Smith Center had 10 scores in the first quarter alone.
Smith Center is a GREEAATT team, but that is a lot of pure and simple self inflicted injuries made by Plainville.
The 72-0 score is stated to be a new National record beating some team out in Arizona that scored 66 points in a quarter back in 1925.
Also that moves Smith Center to 632-0 on the season... still NO ONE has scored on them. I'm going to try and make one of their next game or two in the playoffs. I would love to see the likely match-up of Smith Center vs. St. Francis. St. Francis runs the same system as Smith Center (the wishbone) and is coached by a ex-great Smith Center player (Coach Lambert). Last year the Smith Center vs. St. Francis game was something like a 8-6 game with Smith Center winning. Smith Center has won the last 3 2A State Titles and has something like a 50+ winning streak.
Here is their season.... (* playoffs)
Norton 60-0
Hill City 67-0
Phillipsburg 66-0
Ellis 62-0
Stockton 72-0
Plainville 72-0
Lincoln 78-0
Osborne 72-0
Plainville 83-0 *
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Post by eickst on Oct 31, 2007 10:53:11 GMT -6
Sweet bejesus!
That's a lot of points....
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Post by thunder17 on Oct 31, 2007 11:17:26 GMT -6
mojoben, go to cjoline.com and they will talk about the game on the message board. Actually do a good job of covering football all over Kansas. I think you have to register to use the message board. dcohio, I can't stop laughing.
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mojoben
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Post by mojoben on Oct 31, 2007 11:42:35 GMT -6
Aww, yes I do read the PrepZone board.  |
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Post by coachschro on Oct 31, 2007 12:58:26 GMT -6
Norton finished the year 7-2 and is in the 3A playoffs. Norton is always a power in 3A.
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mojoben
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Post by mojoben on Oct 31, 2007 14:08:57 GMT -6
The likes of Norton and Phillipsburg are still very good teams. Smith Center is just another creature right now.
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Post by teachcoachwm on Oct 31, 2007 23:05:25 GMT -6
What does this say about the quality of football in Kansas? In SC, there is no way a public school team could dominate with those numbers.....someone would slow them down...is their conference really weak or what? Can anyone in the state challenge them? Are they nationally ranked?
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Post by burtledog on Oct 31, 2007 23:19:01 GMT -6
Well, they couldn't score so many points so quickly if they didn't use that 4 wide shotgun spread and pass 40 + times a game! Oh...they run 95% of the time using inside and outside belly series and 3 backs, only one SE and a true TE...never mind. Greg |
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Post by thunder17 on Nov 1, 2007 7:51:43 GMT -6
Kansas football is pretty good. They are playing 1A-2A playoffs. The large class in Kansas is 6A. I'm sure they could beat some of the upper class teams but it also sounds like they are senior dominant this year with good talent. They have always been good from what I understand.
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marboo59
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Post by marboo59 on Nov 1, 2007 8:17:52 GMT -6
Here in Kansas Smith Center has always been known for being a power house. They have had a great group of seniors that went through the school and are working on their 4th straight state title. Their league is really not that good this year but even if they were in another league they would still be 10-0. They are really well coached and their coach is a classy guy, always looking to help others. Success breeds success out in the "Pasture of Pain".
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neil
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Post by neil on Nov 1, 2007 11:43:19 GMT -6
d@mn...Norton must have been pretty good. That is the first time I have laughed out loud reading this board! |
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mojoben
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Post by mojoben on Nov 1, 2007 11:50:03 GMT -6
Like mentioned before the league they play in is really down right now. That same league for many years was the cream of the crop of small school football in the state with multiple state champs. Many of these schools are dying and are moving near or to the 8-Man level now. Take in for example Stockton won multiple state titles in the 2A division back in the 90's, but now are moving to 8-Man come next season. It is a very sad situation for those of us that grew up following the MCL league.
None the less, it didn't matter what 2A/3A/4A league they would be in the state... they would still more then likely kill everyone.
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Post by midlineqb on Nov 1, 2007 13:30:07 GMT -6
They are state power in their class year in and year out. They are in the NW part of Kansas where football is about all the boys have to do. They run a power wishbone offense that runs the heck out of the football. The coaches son played at Kansas State and is now the head coach at Horton, KS where he runs a lot of the same stuff his dad runs and has been very successful there also.
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mojoben
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Post by mojoben on Nov 1, 2007 14:01:58 GMT -6
St. Francis runs that Barta Bone as well lead by Coach Lambert. I believe Lambert's brothers are the HC and OC at Sterling College (NAIA school in the KCAC conference). Lambert played at Smith Center under Roger and around the same time as Brooks.
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Post by coachschro on Nov 1, 2007 15:06:02 GMT -6
I think his son is HC at Holton not Horton...
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Post by dubber on Nov 1, 2007 16:07:30 GMT -6
They made "around the horn" today
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Post by midlineqb on Nov 1, 2007 16:19:37 GMT -6
I think his son is HC at Holton not Horton... Sorry about that. Was thinking of Holton and Norton and put the 2 together. |
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Post by briangilbert on Nov 1, 2007 22:51:27 GMT -6
Yet another reason why Ohio has the best playoff system around. You won't see a 72-0 beat down in the first round out here!
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mojoben
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Post by mojoben on Nov 1, 2007 22:56:23 GMT -6
To be honest, even if it was Plainville, Smith Center would probably put up the same score on any team in 2A this year outside only a few teams. Sure they wouldn't score 72 in one quarter, but it will NOT be pretty throughout the remainder of the playoffs I have a feeling.
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neil
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Post by neil on Nov 2, 2007 13:36:19 GMT -6
Yet another reason why Ohio has the best playoff system around. You won't see a 72-0 beat down in the first round out here! How is your system set up? |
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mojoben
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Post by mojoben on Nov 4, 2007 0:12:51 GMT -6
Smith Center wins there 2nd round playoff game over a 9-1 St. John team. The score.... 64-0! Smith Center rolls another team and still has NOT been scored on this year. They have a much tougher opponent next game in 10-0 Oakley, but it will still be pretty bad.
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Post by coachorr on Nov 4, 2007 0:30:26 GMT -6
Off topic, but in the vicinity. I talk to locals in the Idaho area about the Barta Bone and the Inverted bone, they just look at me like I am nuts. I am a big fan of the offense and the school.
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Post by airraider on Nov 4, 2007 11:52:47 GMT -6
Might be a dumb questions.. but.. Is it the system, or are they just loaded athletically?
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Post by khalfie on Nov 4, 2007 11:53:52 GMT -6
Might be a dumb questions.. but.. Is it the system, or are they just loaded athletically? When you see them on the field vs their competition... its like men vs boys. |
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Post by briangilbert on Nov 4, 2007 13:52:42 GMT -6
A couple of years ago I think it was "Street and Smith" magazine that produced the best playoff systems in the country (meaning the hardest road to the title). Ohio was #1 and Georgia was #2. The reason for Ohio being #1 is their are 6 levels of enrollment Division 1-6 (1 being the highest). You play 10 games and get Level 1 Points for beating a team based on the enrollment of the school you beat. As a Division 1 team if you beat another division 1 team you get 6.0. 5.5 for D2, 5.0 for D3 and so on and so forth to Division 6. Then you get Level 2 points for every team you beat based on who they beat. So if you beat a Division 1 team that won 8 games by beating 8 other division 1 teams you would get 6.0 for Level 1 and then 48.0 for level 2. They add everything up then and divide it by how many games total your opponents played (commonly the divisor is 100). Then the top 8 out of a 32 team region get into the post season, and in a region with 32 teams of your size you usually get 16 or so quality teams fighting it out for 8 spots! Check out www.joeeitel.com for more information on this. |
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Post by airdemon on Nov 4, 2007 16:46:12 GMT -6
must be nice
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Post by 3ydsandacloud on Nov 5, 2007 7:22:46 GMT -6
Might be a dumb questions.. but.. Is it the system, or are they just loaded athletically? They have a complete program. The kids knock down the door to the weight room, and the system is very good as well. AS much as anything it is an attitude and toughness. They have produced several division 1 athletes. If you look at them, you won't find many overwhelming physical specimens, but they have no weak links. |
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Post by mrigg on Nov 5, 2007 14:31:02 GMT -6
How big of a school is Smith Center. More impressive is the ZERO point they have given up this season. What defense do they run? I know I have seen highlights off of their website and they look pretty impressive.
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Post by 3ydsandacloud on Nov 5, 2007 17:10:18 GMT -6
Smith Center has about 120-150 students in HS. Which makes their ability to sustain a program even more impressive. You'd think they would have a few down years just due to enrollment. They are known for their offense, but as I've posted before, their defense may even be better. They base out of a 4-3, I think they are usually in K-State (5-1-3-9) but think they switch to a Miami front as well. They are usually cover 2 with some 2 trade. Nothing out of the ordinary, just very sound and extremely well coached. They must be when even their JV doesn't let the other team's varsity score. Their JV held opponents scoreless in JV games as well. The defense is helped by the ball control style of Offense. They prefer to drive the ball, and have been known to eat near full quarters in single drives. Obviously there haven't been too many grinder drives this year, I believe that they still haven't punted!  |
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mojoben
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Post by mojoben on Nov 5, 2007 23:32:47 GMT -6
Basically to make a long story short.... they are everything a coach and team strives for. lol
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