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Post by juancsusb on Feb 19, 2007 20:38:13 GMT -6
How many of you meet with your players Saturday AM after friday night games? What do you do? Do you just review film, workout, or both? Please be specific. If you don't what are your reasons. Thanks
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Post by fbdoc on Feb 19, 2007 20:47:02 GMT -6
Most of our games are Saturday afternoon so when we do get a Friday night game we typically give the players Saturday off - the coaches will meet to break down video.
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Post by tkgator on Feb 19, 2007 20:50:18 GMT -6
This past season was the first year that we had our team workout at 10 AM on Saturday. We found it to be extremely beneficial and helped us get a head start on Monday. We had our players there at 10 AM and split up offense and defense. One group would get a 30 minute lift then go outside and run. The other group would reveiw the film from the night before. After an hour, the groups would rotate. Having the players at the school on Saturday also helped ensure we had all injury situations addressed then instead of waiting till Monday. We had almost perfect attendance and it proved to be a good use of time. I'm sure we will make some minor tweaks before this season, but overall it went really well. I know that some teams meet on Sunday afternoon and actually have a light practice. I would love to hear from anyone that does this and how they work around church obligations, etc.?
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Post by phantom on Feb 19, 2007 21:09:21 GMT -6
How many of you meet with your players Saturday AM after friday night games? What do you do? Do you just review film, workout, or both? Please be specific. If you don't what are your reasons. Thanks We don't. It's a long season and we like to give the coaches and players some time off when possible. I'm the DC and I and the HC/OC will get video to watch over the weekend before our Sunday night meeting but we will not meet as a staff. In addition, we have some Saturday AM JV games and often have to scout on both Saturday afternoons and evenings. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2007 21:27:08 GMT -6
Been with programs that have done both. To be honest, I found not meeting on Saturday to be very beneficial--our kids seemed refreshed and more energetic on the Monday practices, more ready to go. With my current program, we co-op and one school has about a 20-25 minute drive just to get home on a Friday night, then they have to be back by 9 on Saturday morning. I think it's asking a lot of HS kids, but I believe the majority do meet.
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Post by smu92 on Feb 19, 2007 21:51:07 GMT -6
This past season was the first year that we had our team workout at 10 AM on Saturday. We found it to be extremely beneficial and helped us get a head start on Monday. We had our players there at 10 AM and split up offense and defense. One group would get a 30 minute lift then go outside and run. The other group would reveiw the film from the night before. After an hour, the groups would rotate. Having the players at the school on Saturday also helped ensure we had all injury situations addressed then instead of waiting till Monday. We had almost perfect attendance and it proved to be a good use of time... quote] Almost exactly what we do. Aside from taking care of injuries early, the best thing about it is the instant feedback from Friday night, and then we can forget about that game and move on. |
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Post by coachturley on Feb 19, 2007 21:59:41 GMT -6
Tkgator asked a good question about Sunday's. I have know a few coaches that have done this - come to think of it - exactly two, both highly successful. Anyone else do this or have opinions on this?
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Post by coachjr on Feb 20, 2007 8:32:46 GMT -6
We have always brought our varsity players in on Saturdays. We have the captains or seniors take attendance and make calls if anyone is missing. We start out by doing some good stretching and light running to help get the soreness out from the night before. After stretching and running, our players lift with emphasis on light weight but reps in the 8-12 area. This process of stretching, running and lifting takes about 30-45 minutes. This is also a good time for the coaching staff (usually 3 of us, because the others have JV assignments for Saturday games) to check team morale and talk to the players as they stretch, lift,etc. Next we move to a room to watch film. Our Booster Club provides juice and donuts and we watch film for about 45 minutes to an hour and then let them go. If we have a home JV game, we try to catch at least the second half. We do not meet as a staff or with the players on Sundays.
Sunday is a day for the staff and team to spend with their families and to get ready for the next week. That doesn't mean that the staff doesn't do individual things at their homes (breaking down film, developing the scouting report, putting together tentative game plans) but we do it separately where we have a chance to do it on our own schedule allowing time for church, family and anything else we need to do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2007 8:49:12 GMT -6
To add to my above post, players had Sat and Sun off, we met as a staff to watch film and gameplan for the next week Sundays at five. Personally, I loved having Sat off and still had time to attend church on Sunday. My only prob with the Sunday meetings was if the Bears were the 3 o'clock game!!
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Post by wolson on Feb 20, 2007 8:55:22 GMT -6
We do not meet on Saturdays as a staff or a team. We have a lot of family guys on our staff so we feel it is important to have at least one day during the season that is devoted totally to family. It also helps our players, they have two days off. However, our Sunday night meetings can last a while. I'm sure there are pros and cons to both but we feel strongly about keeping Saturday open.
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Post by backercoach on Feb 20, 2007 9:31:44 GMT -6
At the HS I was coaching at 2 years ago we meat every Saturday morning.
5 min Run Warm
15 Minute Jog
5 min Stretch
10 Circuit
25 min Film
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Post by redandwhite on Feb 20, 2007 9:54:43 GMT -6
We have "optional' film - basically unless there is a good reason players are there. It is the only opportunity our players have to watch the entire game film - we show a few cut-ups on Monday, then move onto our next opponent. In Minnesota, we are not allowed to have contact with athletes on Sundays.
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Post by raider7342 on Feb 20, 2007 10:07:04 GMT -6
we have always done sundays. i ask the staff every year when they would like to meet. they have always voted on sunday (college football on sat is too hard to miss). we have the players come in from 2:30 - 3:30. we stretch, light running, about 16-20 sprints and then watch film for about 30-45 min. coaches are meeting from after church until 5 or 6. we don't lift on sunday and i would like to but i have a few players who work on sat and it would be harder to get them there on sat. not the best system but works around most schedules with fewest conflicts. by sat i usually want a little time away.
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Post by coachf on Feb 20, 2007 11:18:14 GMT -6
We go on Saturday mornings about 9 AM, although they are optional. I usually exchange film in the morning, so I head there to watch it with the coaches. We give the players the film of Friday's game and let them watch it, rewind it, do whatever they want with it. Meanwhile, we start to break down the next week opponent.
I don't do Saturday's for the kids for the film. We really do it for an injury check. We want to make sure we are on top of all the injuries. So we have our trainer come in and look at every one who needs attention. We had a bad problem a couple of years ago with guys missing practice on Monday because of a doctor's appt. or a doctor's note. I got sick of preparing with half a team, so now we find out what is wrong on Saturday. If they don't get checked out on Saturday and come in with a doctor's note Monday, they don't play on Friday.
I sell it to the parents, as well, to cover my butt. A little added protection from liability.
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Post by wingman on Feb 20, 2007 13:56:36 GMT -6
Players come in at 9. They watch previous games, lift weights and run. Done about 1.
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Post by larrymoe on Feb 20, 2007 19:49:29 GMT -6
coachf- You go with your bad self Bob Karnes!!  |
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Post by coachpoe on Feb 20, 2007 20:21:41 GMT -6
Players come in at 10
30 min lift
30-45 min film
5 min warm-up
10 min run
5 min stretch
out by 11:30 or 11:45
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Post by airman on Feb 20, 2007 21:19:09 GMT -6
I believe in bring kids in saturday morning for two reasons,
1. a strength coach and athletic trainer told me a workout the day after helps to improve the athlete by not letting them get stiff.
2. you get to see who is injured and who is not.
and my personal favorite, it keeps the kids off the streets at midnight. 8 am comes early on saturday. you been to a party, we know it.
I have done several things mainly we use it as a time to work on defense and special teams. look at some film.
kids lift some if they want cause the lift before school on tuesdays and thursdays as well.
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Post by airman on Feb 20, 2007 21:22:15 GMT -6
I believe in bring kids in saturday morning for two reasons, 1. a strength coach and athletic trainer told me a workout the day after helps to improve the athlete by not letting them get stiff. 2. you get to see who is injured and who is not. and my personal favorite, it keeps the kids off the streets at midnight. 8 am comes early on saturday. you been to a party, we know it. I have done several things mainly we use it as a time to work on defense and special teams. look at some film. kids lift some if they want cause the lift before school on tuesdays and thursdays as well. I figure it this way, no one does anything on sundays. coaches do not meet and the players get to rest. my question is for you guys is, how many of you have a walk thru on friday morning before school? I have talked to several coaches who do this and they think it helps. I got it from the guys at stillman valley IL. they have been successful in il. I believe they do it after school. |
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Post by CVBears on Feb 20, 2007 23:45:25 GMT -6
I would love to have saturday film (not the whole game, just specific plays; good and bad) and some sort of quick activity to get blood flowing and bodies moving around. One hour total with the kids.
Instead, we do not meet on saturday, monday is watch film for 1 1/2 hours to 2 hours (all from the friday before) with 1 1/2 hours to 1 hour of helmets only, walkthrough type practice.
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Post by airman on Feb 20, 2007 23:53:44 GMT -6
another question for you guys who do not go on saturday.
so you have film on monday,
tuesday and wednesday on is usually a o day, the other a d day, thursday walk thru. how do you guys do it with such little time?
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Feb 21, 2007 1:57:17 GMT -6
Here is what we do:
Friday- GAME
Sat/Sun- Off for players. We watch the game tape as a staff at my house right after the game... usually goes until 3 or 4 AM (a lot of food/drink too). Coaches get copies of upcoming opponent. Players often come by on Sat. PM to get tapes. We do not practice on Sat... most of our players work (in town or on the farm).
Mon- 5:30 AM Film / walk through practice (mostly running; not on practice field- on JH field (50 yd. field behind school or in the gym). PM-JV game
Tue- D
Wed- O
Thurs. Pre game
We only change this schedule for:
1. Game on Thurs or Sat. (usually once every two years)
2.Playoffs- we play every 5 days here... part of the reason we have days off during the season. We have no days off in November.
I guess it works because we have opponents/our tapes available to players immediately (once the season is underway), we have very thorough scouting reports, and with such short time, our guys know they have to focus. Really, I would rather get 6 hours of good practice on the field, where 8 where we are still in the "figuring it all out" stage...which would probably happen here.
The biggest problem for me is playoffs. I am comfortable with the game plan by Monday during a typical week- but in the playoffs, our walk through occurs usually about 45 minutes after I have made it back to town with tapes of our next opponent. By offensive day, I still am not comfortable with the "tweaks" we might need... I feel like I am scrambling too much to figure things out. I guess that's why we do not try to be ready on Saturday during the season... I'm thorough, but pretty slow (kind of like I was as a player). I like the ideas of workouts, but our guys are cutting hay, harvesting or working at the pig co-op... so I figure that takes the soreness out of them. Also, Sat. AM is usually when we trade films, so I need that day to get prepared.
To answer Airman- Tuesday is D day, but we do 20 min. of team D on O day... at that point we should begin to be getting sharp. Also, we pad up for pre-game. We have always done this. The tempo is different, but we run through team similar to what we would do on Tue. and Wed. I know a lot of places do not (some go shells even on Wed.), but this works for us.
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Post by sls on Feb 21, 2007 8:57:58 GMT -6
another question for you guys who do not go on saturday. so you have film on monday, tuesday and wednesday on is usually a o day, the other a d day, thursday walk thru. how do you guys do it with such little time? I use to bring kids in on Sat, but I have a number of kids that have to work and got tired of bad attendence and having to call 10 kids. I feel that i made us more fresh on monday. The triner will bring in certain kids. MOnday 1 hour of film O Ind, O walkthrough, D Ind, D Walkthrough, Special Teams. Tuesday & Wednesday O and D We have 90% of the team in weights class and do not have to worry about lifitng on team time. |
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Post by playfast on Feb 21, 2007 9:57:25 GMT -6
We meet on Sat. to watch tape and see if there are any injuries. We will break into groups to run, lift, and watch tape. Some Sat. early in the season we will use this time for JV and Frosh to get organized.
Sat. Schedule
7:00 am Coaches--Review Game
9:00 am Players Attendance
9:05 am Backs Lift/Lineman Watch Tape
9:35 am Switch
10:05 am Defensive Tape
10:30 am Light Running/Activity
11:00 Go Home
11:00 to 12:00 Coaches begin to prepare for upcoming opponent/Lunch
Some coaches have scouting duties while others go home. We have a schedule.
Sunday off but we will all have contact through email (between 7-9pm)
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Post by doubles on Feb 21, 2007 10:03:39 GMT -6
On Saturday morning, the coaches start breaking down / grading film at 8:00. Players come in at 10:00. First thing - run a mile to get out soreness from night before. Then we watch special teams film from previous night as a team. After this, offense watches film with their position (o-line and skill) While offense is watching film, defense is lifting heavy. (About 45 minutes) Then we switch. Kids are out by 1:00. Coaches stay until about 2:30. We then meet from 2:00 to 8:00 on Sundays. It has really worked well for us...
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Post by champ93 on Feb 21, 2007 20:21:39 GMT -6
Fri nite game
Sat 7am Coaches watch previous night game/grade/tackles counted
9am O comes in to watch film
10 am D comes in to watch film (optional for both groups)
Coaches start breaking down opponents film while the opposite side of the ball meets with
their players
Coaches usually done by1
Sunday no meetings
Monday - Scouting report/game plan/full pads w/ emphasis on positional fundamentals
Tuesday/Wednesday--practice O & D each day (shells on Wed)
Thursday - Shells--"game conditions" Script
My coaches wanted to come in Sat and stay until done, and keep Sunday as their day.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Feb 21, 2007 21:27:24 GMT -6
I forgot to mention about lifting- all football players are in a weights class. We have 3 sections 1 with all upper class-men fb players, 1 with all fr-soph and one for other sports- where we have a few fb players who can not fit the others in their schedule.
That is very nice for us... we do not have to worry about getting them in to lift during the season. I've had to do that before... it is tough.
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Post by tfbcoach on Feb 27, 2007 21:49:11 GMT -6
We have the teams, both FS and V, come in a lift. V will lift first and then watch game film. Comments from coaches are hardly spoken. While V is watching film, FS is lifting. Then FS watches film. We will have treats for the players along with juice.
We also use this time to take care of injuries, get ice, etc.
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Post by overload on Mar 2, 2007 21:09:51 GMT -6
Does anyone do anything special to include all the coaches in the film breakdown with the kids? we have issues with trying to get time with the kids and the coaches who do JV in the morning ?
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Post by goldenbull70 on Mar 2, 2007 21:29:10 GMT -6
We don't bring our kids in on Saturday mornings. We meet as a staff on Sunday to review previous game and watch next week opponent's film. We show them the previous game on Monday before practice.
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