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Post by kurtbryan on Apr 3, 2008 20:51:28 GMT -6
Coaches:
When you have the time, do any of you ponder the future and destiny of the game we all so dearly love?
If so, what do you believe the game will be in the year 2050?
1. Will the football field be the same dimensions?
2. Will it have the same rules about it only being legal to have 1 player in motion when the ball is snapped?
3. Will there be Other ways to score a point or points not already included in today's contests?
4. Will the Numbering requirements on Eligibility Still apply?
5. Will Place-Kickers still play such a pivotal role?
6. Will there be more, less or the same number of people allowed on the field for one team (11)?
In the year 2050 at that point - those of us here today will be part of the game's storied past. So what we do today directly impacts the game's future halfway through this century when that landmark is reached.
Since the game is ever-changing, always growing, always adapting and Fluid from year to year, with radical changes happening at regular intervals...HOW will the game look in the year 2050?
KB
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Post by ramsoc on Apr 3, 2008 20:54:59 GMT -6
I gotta answer yes to all the questions cept #3. We will (hopefully) have better equipment though.
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Post by kurtbryan on Apr 3, 2008 20:57:48 GMT -6
If Yes to all of the above, then what other ways to score points might there be???  KB |
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Post by eickst on Apr 3, 2008 21:11:21 GMT -6
You should be able to score points by havign your QB drill the opposing Head Coach in the nuts. Just put a giant bullseye there.
Or we could have a talent show at halftime and also ask the pageant contestants football players questions.
Football won't change much. We may see a few different schemes here and there, but overall it will still be the same game.
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Post by lochness on Apr 3, 2008 21:18:31 GMT -6
Coach, I predict in the year 2050...  1. After the Earth has recovered from the ashes of World War 4, football games will be played in 3 dimensions with players wearing jet packs. Radiation suits replace Riddell equipment. 2. Genetically enhanced humanoids will play against cyborgs for ultimate gridiron supremacy. The losers will be exiled to Uranus for one light-year. 3. Scoring will not occur by the number of times the offense moves the ball across a goal line or kicks the ball through a goal. Ultimately, football will become like cheerleading (others know it as "Spirit") where judges award teams for having the most innovative and fun offenses and defenses. 4. Lightsabers will be optional 5. Football information (both strategic and tactical) will be beamed directly into the brains of the players (Like "The Matrix" you fools!), therefore coaching largely becomes obsolete... 6. Blocking and tackling, because they are dangerous and require violent primitive emotions, will be outlawed. Instead, players will be trained to use the force to knock opponents over. DO NOT FEAR THE FUTURE!!!!  [glow=red,2,300]THERE IS NO SANCTUARY![/glow] |
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Post by coachbdud on Apr 3, 2008 21:57:32 GMT -6
dont think it will have some gigantic changes.
I definetly see a few rule changes.
No cutting at all by the time its 2050
maybe let the person coming in motion be going towards the LOS (like in Arena ball)
dont see too many changes to the "core" of the game
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Post by CVBears on Apr 3, 2008 22:32:41 GMT -6
I hope that it stays exactly the same, except that the entire nation operates under NCAA rules. Sorry, just a purist. NCAA is dang near perfect. No need to mess with it. Just my two cents
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Post by coachbdud on Apr 3, 2008 23:19:32 GMT -6
forgot to add
Placekickers will always be important
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Post by spos21ram on Apr 3, 2008 23:39:43 GMT -6
I predict by the year 2010 the A-11 will be a distant memory of what could have been the future.
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Post by superpower on Apr 4, 2008 5:41:36 GMT -6
forgot to add Placekickers will always be important I once heard an older coach propose a rule change that would state that each player on the team could only kick (any type of kick - punt, place kick, kick off) once per game. I always thought this would make the game very interesting. |
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Post by safetycoach34 on Apr 4, 2008 5:43:56 GMT -6
by 2050 I think the major change in scoring will be on the extra points. I think they will stop kicking extra points and a touchdown will be worth seven points or you will have to go for a 2 point conversion.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Apr 4, 2008 6:37:05 GMT -6
1. Longer (130yds total...+5 in each endzone) and wider
2. 1 player in motion, but allowed to motion toward LOS
3. No change in scoring.
4. They need to change the rules so that EMLOS, regardless of # are eligible.
5. Yes- Kickers will still be important.
6. Same number of players
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Post by tog on Apr 4, 2008 6:44:27 GMT -6
No cutting at all by the time its 2050 that would completely change the game it would basically kill the running game in leagues where there is any kind of talent gap at all, and possibly even in the nfl where the talent gaps are sooooo narrow |
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Post by groundchuck on Apr 4, 2008 7:09:31 GMT -6
I don't know that there will be too many changes in my lifetime......which hopefully includes 2050 and beyond! LOL.
I think we will see lighter more protective equipment. Look at what Schutt and Riddell have done in the last 5 years with the Revolution and DNA helmets. Not to mention lighter shoulder pads that allow for more body heat to escape.
I think athletes will be bigger, stronger, and faster b/c of better training programs which could I guess force the playing field to become larger.
By 2050 hopefully the Bears have figured out thier QB issues, and are not trying to make Rex Grossman's grandchild thier starter. Maybe D1A (oops I mean FBS) will have a playoffs system.
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Post by coachweigelt on Apr 4, 2008 7:21:48 GMT -6
1. Longer (130yds total...+5 in each endzone) and wider 2. 1 player in motion, but allowed to motion toward LOS 3. No change in scoring. 4. They need to change the rules so that EMLOS, regardless of # are eligible. 5. Yes- Kickers will still be important. 6. Same number of players 2 would be like in the AFL, and I like number 3 that is like in basketball. Winner takes it, so only change of possesion will be on turnover and after a quarter ;D The games will have scores like 149 - 98 like basketball scores!! Maybe the have feawer Lineman because the game gets much faster if you look into 50's games now most lineman are faster than the WR's back then. So if the Lineman "Maschines" start to run 4.4 flat those games will become very interesting... |
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Post by tog on Apr 4, 2008 7:43:48 GMT -6
it wouldn't be football withou the big guys knockin heads
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Post by kurtbryan on Apr 4, 2008 9:29:28 GMT -6
The thoughtful and forward thinking replies get the wheels turning so what about this?
LEATHERHEADS which debuts today set in the 1920's era, so take a look at that style of play 20 years after the Forward Pass was Legalized to use.
Now jump forward to the year 2050 and See what it might look like:
If the game continues to become more and more spread out by a majority of teams, then the Offensive Tackles Position will be more and more spread out across the field of play by Formation, etc.
So - that Evolution will require those particular (OT) athletes to be even better, the requirements for their Job will change, as will their roles...so will the Rules of the game remain unchanged for the next 4 Decades?
Not a chance....take a look back in time 42 years, and the answer becomes self-evident.
Motion and scoring....hmm, some very interesting and provocative thoughts listed above.
Kickers: Not too far off teams will be Kicking Off from their own 20-yard line and by 2050....who knows?
If one does solid historical research about the game and then projects even a modest overall evolution of 15% total change in the type of game over the next 42 years - the Game will be Significantly different than it is today.
KB
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Post by brophy on Apr 4, 2008 10:13:04 GMT -6
2050 is only in 40 years.
40 years ago was 1970 (yikes!) - the game pretty much as stayed the same with the exception of the adapatation to the athletes.
I fear for #2 and look to the liberal use of it in CFL & AFL. I would not bet against this taking place.
I wonder if they place kicking doesn't become more 'rewarded' by offering you more points the further out you get (akin to the '3 point shot'). I would welcome that.
Defenses will continue to get hamstrung in the future, and we'll be lucky if players are still allowed to tackle in the future.
That, and the growing concern over ligament damage & concussion awareness........this game will not resemble the game it was 40 years ago (just ask old timers who played in the 40's & 50's......)
I would really like to see them allow more electronic communication to take place on the sidelines (HS).
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Post by spos21ram on Apr 4, 2008 10:18:13 GMT -6
Rules evolve to make te game better not worse. The reason there were rule changes the past 50 years was because football was still young and ofcourse rules will be tweaked to make the game better. Once something gets pretty colse to perfect it's stupid to mess with it.
If what you're saying is the future, why would I pay to see a football game when I can drive down the street to my local YMCA flag football league and watch/play for free?
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Post by tog on Apr 4, 2008 10:19:12 GMT -6
That, and the growing concern over ligament damage & concussion awareness........this game will not resemble the game it was 40 years ago (just ask old timers who played in the 40's & 50's......) (HS). and by then the wussification of america shall be complete |
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Post by slvcoach on Apr 4, 2008 10:20:27 GMT -6
As I will be still be coaching at 98 years young on my jet-air sideline chair giving game strategies via telecomm (on-field communication and mini-computer screens in the helmet visers) the following have taken place in th game of gridiron:
1) Field dimensions will be enlarged to the size similar to Canadian Football field dimensions. All stadiums housing today's teams wil be obsolete because new stadiums will be built to account for the change in size regulations.
2) Two (2) players will be allowed in motion at the same time with one player allowed to motion back and then toward the LOS like Arena football rules of today.
3) Place-kickers will still play a pivotal role in scoring as the kick scoring rules have been adjusted:
Field Goals: 20 yards or less = 1 point
21 yards to 30 yards = 2 points
31 yards to 40 yards = 3 points
41 yards to 50 yards = 4 points
51 yards or more = 5 points
4) An interception by the defensive team = one (1) point; if returned for a TD = 7 points
5) Equipment will advance in technology to where the helmet and shoulder pads will become a one-piece unit built to eliminate cervical neck injuries and with sensory system built-in to evaluate players for concussions. The face guard/mask has been replaced with a shield so facemask penalties will become obsolete as well and the mini-screen can be installed for the QB and Defensive play-callers. Since the helmpads is one unit the horsecollar tackle rule is now obsolete as well.
Knee protection is still be studied to prevent major injuries to the knee joint.
Cutblocking has been prohibited anywhere on the field.
6) Kicks must be returned out of the endzone.
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Post by tog on Apr 4, 2008 10:24:32 GMT -6
what is the issue with cut blocking?
I just don't get it
We as coaches need to get this silly idea squashed right now and even get it going the other way. The FED rules need to be changed to allow it.
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Post by spos21ram on Apr 4, 2008 10:27:55 GMT -6
what is the issue with cut blocking? I just don't get it We as coaches need to get this silly idea squashed right now and even get it going the other way. The FED rules need to be changed to allow it. I agree. In all my years playing college, I never once saw a player get injured by a cut block. I don't understand why people think this is bad. The only way someone will get hurt if it's a high/low and thats already illegal. |
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Post by brophy on Apr 4, 2008 10:29:23 GMT -6
I will bet $1,000 that by the year 2050, PortaPhones will STILL not be able to make a set of phones that doesn't crap out mid-season......
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Post by phantom on Apr 4, 2008 10:32:12 GMT -6
Why would they want to change the dimensions of the field? Changing the motion rules would make the game more like Arena football or the CFL. How many people watched the BCS Championship? The Super Bowl? How many even know when the Grey Cup and AFL championships are held?
I'd be surprised if the started awarding more points for longer FGs because that would encourage attempting longer FGs instead of going for it in an effort to score a TD.
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Post by tog on Apr 4, 2008 10:35:31 GMT -6
i think the game has evolved rule wise to where it needs to just stay
I don't anticipate attendance or tv ratings to go down any time soon
it should always remain about physical blocking and tackling
otherwise
let's just go ahead and play soccer
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Post by superpower on Apr 4, 2008 10:41:41 GMT -6
Exactly! Why are people in such a hurry to change/revolutionize the game of football, which is our national past time? Football is not for everyone. Never has been and never was meant to be. As others have pointed out, there are plenty of other sports (basketball, soccer, flag football, baseball, softball, track, Dancing With the Stars, etc.) that do not require the kind of contact that is inherent to football. If you don't want to deal with that kind of contact, enjoy another sporting adventure. Or be truly creative and start a new sport.
One man's evolution is another man's degeneration.
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Post by brophy on Apr 4, 2008 10:56:10 GMT -6
In the year 2050 at that point - those of us here today will be part of the game's storied past. So what we do today directly impacts the game's future halfway through this century when that landmark is reached. Which is what this board is about, and I think guys like Andrew Coverdale and Darin Slack are doing more to serve as amplified catalysts to the evolution of the game (and how we go about using it / coaching it). The frame work is built, becoming more efficient in our teaching and application (for a more efficient execution) is what the main thrust in the future will be. Re-inventing the computer after it was invented isn't the answer - creating faster processors, bigger memory, expanded storage..... THAT is the "future" of football.  And look at where the Home PC has come in the last 10 years........the same thing is happening in football now. How many ingredients can you add to a recipe before you end up with something that isn't a "CAKE"? Take for example, a pizza. PERFECT definition of a food if there ever was one....but when you go adding fruit, and nuts, and yogurt to it to be fancy and throw all kinds of great flavor to it.......now, you've spoiled what made it PERFECT to begin with. I see that with the increasing number of fines in the NFL, phantom "roughing" calls, routine PI penalties, ridiculous 'late-hit' calls.........these are all "Official" issues, but it is noting the trend of unnecessary tinkering that can well take place in formation and play regulation. |
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Post by silkyice on Apr 4, 2008 11:48:08 GMT -6
I think just the opposite on field goals. They should be worth more the closer you are to the goalline.
What about having one field goal with three widths? High school, College, and Pro all on one FG. Each worth different amounts.
I beleive the game will be just about the same. Watch the first Super Bowl and this year's Super Bowl. Sure the players look different and equipment look different and there are some rule changes, but the game is still the same game.
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Post by kurtbryan on Apr 4, 2008 12:40:20 GMT -6
This is a GREAT thread!  KB |
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