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Post by airman on Sept 4, 2007 17:58:44 GMT -6
I keep seeing thse michigan who shirts which app. state is wearing.
now I am not a michigan fan but lets be realistic here, if app st and michigan played for the next 10 years, michigan would win 9 of them.
this notion by the app state fans about michigan who? come on folks, lets win with some class.
was it a great upset? sure it was. was it painful for michigan? why yes it was. I belive michigan was looking past app state adn they paid for it.
now you get poeple asking for lloyd carrs head. I think part of it is these top 10 schools schedule these smaller schools, pay them 500,000 grand and walk away with a win most times. really I think we should be going back to the old school schedules were alabama and penn state would matchup. I think a acc/big ten football challenge would be great just like it is in basketball. however this will not happen without a playoff system. no big time team is going to really risk losing in sept.
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Post by olinecoach61 on Sept 4, 2007 18:20:58 GMT -6
App State won the right to wear any t shirt it wants. Michigan should be ashamed of themselves, take it like a man. #5 losing to a IAA, please.
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Post by shakdaddy3 on Sept 4, 2007 18:24:24 GMT -6
yeah... cuz the muck fichigan or "ann arbor is a {censored}" shirts that ohio state fans wear are much classier... bragging rights in college football is HUGE... app state will now have bragging rights, well, forever or until they play michigan again.
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Post by fort on Sept 4, 2007 18:27:49 GMT -6
It's the biggest win the program will ever see. Let them celebrate. They weren't over rubbing the stuff in Michigan's face after the game. All I've seen and heard from App. State's players and coaches since the win has been very respectful. I'm lost as to where these shirts are showing a 'lack of class' from the school and program.
I'm with you 100% on these 'powerhouses' scheduling supposedly weak opponents, though. If you are in the top-25, you shouldn't be able to even contemplate scheduling a 1-AA team. It's exactly like you said, they are basically paying a half-million for a win. Luckily (maybe not so much for UM) it came back to bite one of them.
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Post by dubber on Sept 4, 2007 18:40:02 GMT -6
I bet 1/2 of app. state's campus is still drunk
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Post by burtledog on Sept 4, 2007 20:56:41 GMT -6
As a IAA and SoCon fan...If The Citadel beats App St does that mean we are better than Michgan and any Big10 teams they beat this year and the team they beat in a BCS bowl? Gotta' like it.
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Post by brophy on Sept 4, 2007 21:09:05 GMT -6
If Michigan wasn't rated #5 and overhyped (along with the rest of the Big 10) for the past decade..........the shirt wouldn't make any sense.
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Post by Coach Bruce on Sept 4, 2007 22:37:42 GMT -6
Mountaineer Power baby!!!! Lack of class? LOL
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Post by carookie on Sept 4, 2007 23:39:51 GMT -6
Every team is going to have FANS that lack class. I would never go to a sporting event and boo the oposition ( I personally think thats classless), but its all a matter of opinion. I doubt anyone associated with the App St. team is wearing those shirts
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Post by wingt74 on Sept 5, 2007 6:07:54 GMT -6
Ahh, c'mon Airman. Michigan Who is pretty tame. I personally would want a shirt that read: "#5 App. State" Or "Fifth Ranked App. St 34 MU 32
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Post by davecisar on Sept 5, 2007 6:12:34 GMT -6
Teams that are used to winning and won big games like that usually dont sport that type of t-shirts etc. Being from NEbraska we saw how K-State and Colorado fans acted after being downtrodden for so long ( Im nearly 50), they just werent used to winning. As to teams not risking losing etc there are many that do that, but there are others that play big time pre-season games, NU plays USC in 2 weeks and has VA TEch on the schedule next year. Va TEch plays LSU this week.
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Post by realdawg on Sept 5, 2007 6:49:20 GMT -6
If its classless call me classless then b/c I ordered one! As an App State alumni I believe that win was bigger for our school than the two back to back championships combined. Our school and community has spent more time on national TV since Saturday than we did for winning back to back championships combined, so I plan on enjoying this win, especially since I despise all Big 10 Teams. I will say that Coach Carr and Coach Moore and their programs handled this game with alot of class both before and after the upset, but as for me as a fan, let me enjoy the win, and have a suvenior to remember it by!
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Post by pantherpride91 on Sept 5, 2007 8:03:50 GMT -6
now you get poeple asking for lloyd carrs head. Not me.....I hope Carr gets a lifetime contract extension ;D
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Post by coachcb on Sept 5, 2007 9:34:51 GMT -6
Hey, the school and community would have looked a WHOLE lot more respectable had they chilled out a little bit.
Was it a great win; of course. Do I like watching Michigan lose; OF COURSE (Wisconsin fan). But, I don't think the t-shirts are necessary. Just keep your mouth shut and let the Ws do the talking for you.
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Post by Yash on Sept 5, 2007 9:40:18 GMT -6
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Post by Coach Bruce on Sept 5, 2007 9:55:09 GMT -6
I LOVVVVE this thread. There has been NO lack of class by ANYONE even remotely close to the Mountaineer program. Just whining by immature losers not yet used to losing. Its funny but I feel a little sad for you in my heart. I guess though you have to concern yourselves with Appy States "program" since you don't have one in Michigan anymore. Anything to take the focus off the excuse for football being played up there huh? I don't blame ya. Divert that attention. Regardless it is, "Meechigan who?"
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Post by knighter on Sept 5, 2007 10:33:09 GMT -6
I forget in a big win, one of the biggest upsets in college football history, the winners should all take into consideration how the losers are feeling. Poor Michigan....we should not celebrate too much because their feelings might be hurt. WHATEVER
I was on the first UNI (Div 1AA) team to beat Iowa State (Div. 1) in 99 years...we had t-shirts made, and celebrated that huge victory. Lack of class...forget it, let the young men and women of App. State be prod and do the same.
What wa slack of class was Hart saying to lose to a team like that...a team like what, Div. 1AA back to back Natl. Champions...maybe it would have helped if they knew who they were playing. This was a case of Michigan getting caught with their pants down...should have been preparing for App. State and not preparing for a future opponent.
Sour grapes is what I am hearing. If Michigan would have beaten tOSU last year I am sure they would have been very considerate not to rub it in at all right?
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Post by Coach Huey on Sept 5, 2007 10:34:04 GMT -6
I LOVVVVE this thread. There has been NO lack of class by ANYONE even remotely close to the Mountaineer program. Just whining by immature losers not yet used to losing. Its funny but I feel a little sad for you in my heart. I guess though you have to concern yourselves with Appy States "program" since you don't have one in Michigan anymore. Anything to take the focus off the excuse for football being played up there huh? I don't blame ya. Divert that attention. Regardless it is, "Meechigan who?" This thread is somewhat silly. One loss or one win does not make (or break) a program. Both universities and athletic programs are obviously top-notch. App. States win was an upset no doubt -- the proportion of that upset is based more on a person's view -- and while I wouldn't classify it as a "fluke" I would dare to say that in the long-term (if this game were played year after year) that Michigan would likely win the greater majority of them. However, last Saturday, it was very apparent that App. State was the better team or, at the very least, played better than Michigan that day. They earned and deserved that victory. Celebrating a victory such as that is great and fun. Most of the "antics" deemed "classless" (again, based on a person's view) are led by those outside the program ... i.e. fans and media. Based on what little I know of Coach Moore he has his players well-grounded and teaches them to keep things in perspective. He said it best when he mentioned that if the team is not careful (focused on their ultimate prize) then they could stumble and then what has this win truly done for them. Without a doubt, the victory over Michigan will have a huge impact on future recruiting for them. Now, I wouldn't go so far as to say that Michigan "doesn't have one [progam] anymore" because they lost to App. State. Honestly, knocking Michigan down (as some App. State 'fans' or the media choose to do) would seem to lessen the victory.. i.e. if Michigan is a 'nobody' then App. State beat a 'nobody'. Obviously, that is not the case. They beat a very good Michigan team (albeit, probably not one capable of being a top 5 team this year) and a program that is very storied and tradition rich. Thus, the victory is of greater impact than if App. State had beaten say, Minnesota. (not knocking the Gophers, jd, just that the recent history of their program not the same as UM). While I have never seen the 'logic' of the "Michigan Who?" or the "whatever who?" slogans that always pop up, I completely understand the euphoria taking place on the App. State campus and with their fan base. But, we need to keep this all in proper perspective... one game does not a season nor a program make.
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Post by knighter on Sept 5, 2007 10:48:14 GMT -6
Good point Huey...not like Michigan will be down forever...may not even be down a week. Coach Carr will have them ready to go this week in my opinion.
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Post by groundchuck on Sept 5, 2007 11:02:08 GMT -6
I don't I would like to be the Oregon Ducks right now, having to play Michigan after that loss. You think the Wolverines are having a hard-core back to the basics week of practice.
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Post by fbdoc on Sept 5, 2007 11:21:30 GMT -6
Whoa, leave my Ducks out of this one. You're right though - timing is everything! Bad time to be traveling to the big house. Anyone want to spot me 10 points?
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Post by groundchuck on Sept 5, 2007 12:21:07 GMT -6
Whoa, leave my Ducks out of this one. You're right though - timing is everything! Bad time to be traveling to the big house. Anyone want to spot me 10 points? I would bet one of two things will happen. A) Michigan's coaches fed the players the proverbial "raw meat" the players respond appriopriately and take out all there frustrations by playing Duck Hunt in front of 100,000 people. B) Despite all thier best efforts Michigan is still hung-over from the loss to App. State and plays a lame-duck of a game.
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Post by captain31 on Sept 5, 2007 13:34:57 GMT -6
Ahh, c'mon Airman. Michigan Who is pretty tame. I personally would want a shirt that read: "#5 App. State" Or "Fifth Ranked App. St 34 MU 32 I'd want one that says "Michigan: 1-AA Runners-Up."
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Post by kboyd on Sept 5, 2007 15:04:23 GMT -6
I'm a big Michigan fan, so believe me when I say I've been geting some solid harrassment from my buddies over this loss. They got beat and as was stated earlier, bragging rights are huge in college football. You suck it up and move on and let App St enjoy this huge win for the program. I love that they have the t-shirts made, that's all part of why I love college ball. That and you play the games for a reason, you just never know what can happen.
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Post by briangilbert on Sept 5, 2007 17:27:06 GMT -6
As an Ohio State fan I would just like to give kudos to the fine program that Lloyd Carr runs... In fact I believe it's such a great program that Carr should have a lifetime contract. He is my hero.
Oh and it's 7:27pm and Michigan still sucks.
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Post by coachmoore42 on Sept 5, 2007 19:00:20 GMT -6
I could be mistaken, but I think that the "Michigan Who?" shirts are more of a shot at them over looking Appy than saying "who is Michigan". Like a Michigan fan on Friday saying "who do we play tomorrow?", another responds "Appalachian State", first one says "Appalachian Who?".
Just a thought. That's what I interpreted the shirts as. Either way, the story will be the same in 20 years, David still beat Goliath. No one other than those who still have their "Michigan Who?" shirt in a shadow box will even remember what it said.
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Post by Coach Bruce on Sept 5, 2007 20:26:18 GMT -6
EXACTLY what Meechigan who is all about. Before the game all ya hear is Appy who...Appy whoooooo??? So afterward its alllllllll Meechigan whooooooo.
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Post by wingt74 on Sept 6, 2007 6:05:40 GMT -6
As an Ohio State fan I would just like to give kudos to the fine program that Lloyd Carr runs... In fact I believe it's such a great program that Carr should have a lifetime contract. He is my hero. Oh and it's 7:27pm and Michigan still sucks. Now...what is Michigan beats Ohio St?
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Post by airman on Sept 6, 2007 18:12:28 GMT -6
be interesting to see what happens this week when oregon comes into the big house. will michigan wilt or will the kick the ever loving crap out of oregon? findout saturday.
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Post by silkyice on Sept 6, 2007 19:14:25 GMT -6
I keep seeing thse michigan who shirts which app. state is wearing. now I am not a michigan fan but lets be realistic here, if app st and michigan played for the next 10 years, michigan would win 9 of them. this notion by the app state fans about michigan who? come on folks, lets win with some class. was it a great upset? sure it was. was it painful for michigan? why yes it was. I belive michigan was looking past app state adn they paid for it. now you get poeple asking for lloyd carrs head. I think part of it is these top 10 schools schedule these smaller schools, pay them 500,000 grand and walk away with a win most times. really I think we should be going back to the old school schedules were alabama and penn state would matchup. I think a acc/big ten football challenge would be great just like it is in basketball. however this will not happen without a playoff system. no big time team is going to really risk losing in sept. Are you serious? No, really? Wait, you have to be kidding. I get it now, you are an Ohio State fan and are trying to make Michigan look even worse. LOL. Airman who?? Sorry, couldn't resist. I know that was being a jerk. Sorry.
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