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Post by mattyg2787 on Nov 8, 2012 1:54:24 GMT -6
We play ten games regular season, then 2&3 play semi finals. #1 goes straight through to bowl game. We play semi finals this weekend (wish me luck) then the week after we go to bowl game
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Post by tgun25 on Nov 9, 2012 19:08:26 GMT -6
In Minnesota, state champ games are the Friday/Saturday after Thanksgiving in the Metrodome. The team I help coach was done in the first round of playoffs so I've been done since the 23rd of October. It's always such a strange feeling when a season wraps up. Now I just spend my days as an English teacher and my weekends planning next season in my deer stand. Can't wait for the Glazier clinic in February.
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Post by pirates2012 on Nov 9, 2012 20:20:27 GMT -6
yes, I understand the depression and what not ...
been done since around October 20th.
Seems like such a long ways until the start of the season... I know its not really but its been tough watching other teams move on in the playoffs
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Post by layitontheline on Nov 14, 2012 9:31:18 GMT -6
In West Texas, we are in one of the toughest 5A districts in the state. They used to call it the Little Southwest Conference. The Athletes have changed but the physicality of the game hasn't. Well Friday was our last game and it has been real tough on me, the kids keep on asking why is coach in a bad mood. well It is real simple, we are at home while everybody else is starting their road to the State Championship. We needed to win 1 out of the last 2 games and we just didn't get it done. I usually go watch playoff games but this year I am going to find a fishing show with 2 old men fishing and drink some hot chocolate.
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Post by gdoggwr on Nov 14, 2012 14:38:42 GMT -6
In Kansas if you practice on thanksgiving you're in the state finals. Last year we practiced on thanksgiving, this year we were done Oct. 26th. (didn't make the playoffs). I was really depressed until the next morning when I got to make my 4 year old and 1.5 year old breakfast. My four year old says, "Daddy, I'm so happy that you're home this morning..." I wish we were still playing, but its nice to be a dad again too.
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Post by PIGSKIN11 on Nov 16, 2012 14:34:02 GMT -6
I have end of season EXCITEMENT I can now do months of research and fix things and try to get better... I love this time of year when everything is fresh on the head and I have the time to get problems answered...
I admit I have a problem - an addiction to football ... but I am ok with it because rehab is for quitters...
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Post by CoachCP on Nov 26, 2012 8:34:57 GMT -6
We were one of those teams that played for a championship Thanksgiving weekend. We lost.
Very depressed, considering we had 16 and 12 play drives, as well as getting the ball on the ~15 yard line of our opponent, none of which turned into any points. Potential 21 or 9 points that disappeared in 28-14 loss (and 2 of those ended up as turnovers that led to their points). Just killer.
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Post by dsa0305 on Nov 26, 2012 9:34:56 GMT -6
We lost by four points this weekend and I am in a serious funk. It is one thing to lose a game, but to lose a game the way that we did is gut wrenching. We gave up a touchdown pass on 4th and 18 from their 30. We get the ball back and drive to their 15 and throw an INT in the endzone with 1:40 to go. Stop them on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down, and they convert a 4th and 1 to finish it.
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Post by davishfc on Nov 26, 2012 11:02:28 GMT -6
I'd rather go 5-4 winning Week 9 than make playoffs and get bounced first round. Really?
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Post by blb on Nov 26, 2012 11:17:38 GMT -6
Yes, really!
Getting rolled 36-0 or whatever in 1st round of playoffs is your last memory of the season-stays in your mouth a LONG time.
Having a winning season and winning your last game (often against a geographical rival), not having to spend another week practicing when you have no shot is a lot more satisfying feeling to carry with you the next nine months.
And frankly often kids have had enough Football by then too unless you have a "special" group that is talented AND dedicated that believes they can do some damage in playoffs. Frequently they're ready for a break or to move on to Winter sports
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Post by jlenwood on Nov 26, 2012 11:19:11 GMT -6
I'd rather go 5-4 winning Week 9 than make playoffs and get bounced first round. Really? We made the playoffs this year and got thumped first round. Very unfortunate draw for us, but there is no way I would trade 5-4 and not make the playoffs. Even though we were beat, the atmosphere and support for these kids and what we were able to do for the program was unbelievable and more rewarding than you can imagine if you have never been there. As far as depression goes, nah....I like to unwind for a couple of weeks , recharge and then get back to learning some 'ball.
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Post by blb on Nov 26, 2012 11:48:30 GMT -6
We made the playoffs this year and got thumped first round. Very unfortunate draw for us, but there is no way I would trade 5-4 and not make the playoffs. Even though we were beat, the atmosphere and support for these kids and what we were able to do for the program was unbelievable and more rewarding than you can imagine if you have never been there. When you make playoffs for the first time at a new program it certainly can give a boost especially if you can build on it. But if it happens repeatedly it can have the opposite effect, including added pressure on the head coach. And as I said, kids know when they aren't good enough to win and are ready for it to be over. I've seen it happen.
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Post by davishfc on Nov 26, 2012 11:56:18 GMT -6
Yes, really! Getting rolled 36-0 or whatever in 1st round of playoffs is your last memory of the season-stays in your mouth a LONG time. Yeah, for the seniors I suppose it's a long time. But I believe they will probably also remember that the week after their last win, there were still teams playing but they weren't one of them. Regardless of how bad they got beat, they were still in a position to compete for a championship. The underclassmen could use the loss as motivation of the gap to close if they want to compete at a higher level. For example, we lost in the first round of the playoffs 41-10 to the runner up in our division last year. This year, after they beat us, they advanced to the semifinals and lost to the eventual state champion by 1 point...8-7. We had some young guys on the field for our game. We plan to use the loss as motivation to get them stronger and faster in the weight room. If we want to be able to compete at a championship level with a team of that caliber, then we know the gap in ability we have to close...we were on the field against it. Now if you go in and get beat in the first round 36-0 by a team that gets beat 36-0 in the next round, then I can see where you're coming from. That team didn't have what it took to compete and advance at all at that level. Pretenders basically. Although that doesn't change the fact that I would still want to make it in.
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Post by davishfc on Nov 26, 2012 12:06:52 GMT -6
But if it happens repeatedly it can have the opposite effect, including added pressure on the head coach. I can see where this could eventually become a problem. kids know when they aren't good enough to win and are ready for it to be over. I've seen it happen. But if you compete with teams of that caliber during the regular season you have a chance. That's what the kids will believe, especially if they sense the belief from the coaching staff, particularly the head coach. You just don't know until you play. On any given Friday, anything can happen.
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Post by CoachCP on Nov 26, 2012 12:29:02 GMT -6
... Playoffs are important for the program. 1 extra week of practice for the next years guys in the least. That extra week is enough to say it's better than not making it. And you never know what will happen. We qualified in 2007 at 5-4 by beating our last opponent by less than 10 I think, then beat 3 conference champions on our way to the state finals, where we lost to our own conference champs.
We went 5-4 in 2005 during my senior year. We made the playoffs. We played defending state champs. Lost 28-0. I still loved that season. First year under a new coach and it started something great. I coach there now, and we've been to 4 semi's I believe since then, and been to 2 state finals games (2007 and this year... as I mentioned already in this thread). Our season was the beginning of a turnaround for our program, and I do take pride in that.
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Post by coachbdud on Nov 26, 2012 12:54:02 GMT -6
I understand the post season depression/hangover feeling well
I have ALWAYS wanted to practice Thanksgiving... to me that is the mark of a good team because that means you have won your 1st round playoff game and advanced to the second round
In my 7 years I have coached on a playoff team 3 times, and in all 3 years we lost in the 1st round (including these last 2 seasons)
Now at both schools they have been perennial losers...First ever playoff appearance at my alma mater in school history
and at my current school first back to back playoff trips since the early 80s...
So there is a positive/rebuilding side to look at, but it just sucks to feel like you are close to turning the corner ans not quite get there
We got KILLED in the 1st round, it was ugly, and the other team really ran it up. Starters played the whole game on Defense, they went for 2 in the 4th quarter, and they threw a TD pass with under a minute to go in the game
I was sad for about a day, but it quickly turned to a motivating anger... I have never been more pumped up to get the kids in the weight room and I feel that a lot of our kids coming back are "hungry"
Losing in the 1st round has kind of left a bad taste in all of our mouths and I am hoping it is something we can use for motivation throughout the offseason
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Post by rsmith627 on Nov 26, 2012 13:02:43 GMT -6
We finished in mid October. The first week or 2 of being able to come home after school are fantastic, but now I am going out of my mind, and I think I am driving my wife out of hers. I am obsessed with the game. Football is definitely my vice. I will be happy when we get the team in the weight room in a few weeks. I love being around those kids.
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Post by mrjvi on Nov 26, 2012 15:11:50 GMT -6
Thanks to all who wrote on this thread. It has definitely put things in perspective BUT..... like rsmith, I am obsessed with the game. We just started our morning workouts and I'm excited except that other sports are already getting territorial. They do need to be careful as some kids are already not wanting to be told they can't lift during their seasons. Also I agree above with BLB about playoffs having sometimes the opposite effect. We keep getting eliminated in the semis but the added pressure is probably largely from myself.
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Post by rsmith627 on Nov 26, 2012 15:37:02 GMT -6
We have that problem with our baseball players mrjvl. They compete at the state level pretty regularly, and the coach doesn't want his players bulking up. Basketball ties the kids up as well, in spite of how bad we are out basketball.
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Post by blb on Nov 26, 2012 15:52:31 GMT -6
But if you compete with teams of that caliber during the regular season you have a chance. That's what the kids will believe, especially if they sense the belief from the coaching staff, particularly the head coach. You just don't know until you play. On any given Friday, anything can happen. You're 6-3, finished fourth in your league (whether it's a tough one or not). You're a Four seed playing the One seed in your District who is 9-0, ranked in Top Ten. Maybe it's even a team who already whacked you once earlier. How many of those 6-3 teams won Round One this year? Last year? "Any Given (Year)"? Kids aren't stupid, no matter how much you "Believe" and try to get them too, also. And like I said, despite what we would like to think, sometimes at the end of October some groups are just ready for it to be over. Football is not as important to everybody else, including players, as it is to some of us coaches - no matter how much you try to make it so.
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Post by davishfc on Nov 26, 2012 17:30:56 GMT -6
You're 6-3, finished fourth in your league (whether it's a tough one or not). You're a Four seed playing the One seed in your District who is 9-0, ranked in Top Ten. Maybe it's even a team who already whacked you once earlier. How many of those 6-3 teams won Round One this year? Last year? "Any Given (Year)"? In 2012, in both our Divisions (6 & 7) 4 of the 16 #1 seeds were beat by 4 seeds. So it happens more than one would believe. Do you believe the playoffs should be reduced by a round back to the 16 team tournament? And like I said, despite what we would like to think, sometimes at the end of October some groups are just ready for it to be over. I understand what you mean. I believe what you've proposed is much more likely for teams with losing records. Although it is possible for teams that have winning records to have had their fill on football for the season. Football is not as important to everybody else, including players, as it is to some of us coaches - no matter how much you try to make it so. I completely agree. I feel it everyday even at the new place. There are many more people that football is important to here but it could certainly still improve. And it must if we want to get to the level that everyone has expressed they'd like to see our program. So I understand where you're coming from. You're right. People will never make football as important in their lives as it is to us coaches. So our wisdom keeps us from being surprised when people don't immediately get on board or ever get on board, in some cases. But that doesn't mean we stop trying. Is it a challenging sell? Absolutely. But we're not there to get the ones on board that would fall in line whether we were there or not. It's the ones on the fence that we're after. When we make believers out of those people...well...that's when we earn our keep as coaches.
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Post by lyons on Nov 8, 2015 20:24:06 GMT -6
I am in this Depression mode right now, we lost a close one in round one of the playoffs, fumbled on the one yard line going to score and win. A very bad taste in our mouth.
How do you deal with end of the year depression? What are some things you do?
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Post by 33coach on Nov 8, 2015 20:28:53 GMT -6
I am in this Depression mode right now, we lost a close one in round one of the playoffs, fumbled on the one yard line going to score and win. A very bad taste in our mouth. How do you deal with end of the year depression? What are some things you do? I detox. 4 weeks, no film, no communication with players or coaches about anything football related. Then after a month. Hit the books and the film again. Gotta prep for next year..
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Post by lyons on Nov 8, 2015 20:38:44 GMT -6
I may have to try that, it is so hard because all I think about is that fumble and other plays that hurt us
But it may be nice to relax
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Post by dubber on Nov 8, 2015 20:56:01 GMT -6
33coach detox's......I like to tox
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 8:26:18 GMT -6
I am in this Depression mode right now, we lost a close one in round one of the playoffs, fumbled on the one yard line going to score and win. A very bad taste in our mouth. How do you deal with end of the year depression? What are some things you do? I detox. 4 weeks, no film, no communication with players or coaches about anything football related. Then after a month. Hit the books and the film again. Gotta prep for next year.. I would be suicidal if I tried that!
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Post by coachphillip on Nov 9, 2015 8:36:39 GMT -6
I may have to try that, it is so hard because all I think about is that fumble and other plays that hurt us But it may be nice to relax It does no good to dwell on that stuff. Move on to wrapping up the season and then work on making sure the things that cost you this year are points of emphasis heading into next year. I always need a couple weeks to only do stuff I want to do since I've been doing what the program needs for the past 9 months. Then, back to hardcore program needs.
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Post by mrjvi on Nov 9, 2015 11:17:13 GMT -6
On the northeast going longer. Except for Long Island and NYC who have their own playoffs, NY state plays state final on Thanksgiving weekend. I know Connecticut and Mass play later though.
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Post by ccscoach on Nov 9, 2015 16:49:09 GMT -6
On the northeast going longer. Except for Long Island and NYC who have their own playoffs, NY state plays state final on Thanksgiving weekend. I know Connecticut and Mass play later though. Mrjvi you see they approved a 10th game wonder what that means for next year
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Post by mrjvi on Nov 9, 2015 20:12:38 GMT -6
You could always play a 10th if you got approval-which was easy. Now you don't need approval, you can just do it. For rivalries and such they might be great but our section has trouble getting all the teams to even play a 9th if they are out of playoffs since playoffs start in game # 8.
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