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Post by phantom on Feb 3, 2008 9:25:29 GMT -6
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Post by sls on Feb 3, 2008 9:43:53 GMT -6
Parents!!
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Post by tigercoach on Feb 3, 2008 9:51:53 GMT -6
Not having to answer the phone which typically aligns with parents as SLS said.
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Post by ajreaper on Feb 3, 2008 9:53:32 GMT -6
You just coach football for the most part.
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Post by phantom on Feb 3, 2008 9:57:33 GMT -6
You just coach football for the most part. Exactly. Boss: "What jersies should we wear? Me: "I don't care". |
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Post by kylem56 on Feb 3, 2008 10:01:32 GMT -6
more coaching, from a young guys point of view..plenty of opportunity for learning
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Post by Yash on Feb 3, 2008 10:08:17 GMT -6
Never see your name in the news paper!
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Post by coachcalande on Feb 3, 2008 10:10:37 GMT -6
Without a doubt an assistant has a lighter work load, no parents to deal with. When you go home at night, other than looking at film your really with your family...as a HC even at the frosh level I had parents and admin to deal with all day. Parents think nothing of calling your home at 10 or 10:30 at night to make excuses for lil bobby.
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Post by larrymoe on Feb 3, 2008 10:25:03 GMT -6
I don't know what the advantages are.
In my current situation, I'm the one that does most of the stuff you guys listed as the HC doing.
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Post by hchscoachtom on Feb 3, 2008 11:40:33 GMT -6
Not having to deal all the above.
Our first year as a program I was Varsity DC. I didn't sleep much on Thursday nights. The next year we re-aligned the coaching staff and I coached at the sub-varsity level. Consequentially I slept a lot better on Thursday nights, as a matter of fact I slept much better every night. So not having to deal with "Winning" pressure. Just being able to coach, teach and learn more myself.
Also, a lot of the administrative responsibilities I don't mind not having to deal with.
I enjoy all the other duties, ie... film break down, practice planning etc. . . I think those aspects only help to make me better prepared for the opponent, thus becoming a better coach.
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Post by coachveer on Feb 3, 2008 12:31:54 GMT -6
Parents, Administrators, booster clubs, bus schedules, lift -a-thons, 11,000 dollars in debt, and starting QB who come to practice smelling like booze.
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Post by wingtol on Feb 3, 2008 13:53:04 GMT -6
Standing behind the camera guy from the news making faces at the HC as he is interviewed on the news. Knowing I won't have to deal with parents on a constant basis. Calling a play or plays that don;t turn out real good and knowing I won't get bashed by the media/fans/parents after the game LOL  |
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Post by coachorr on Feb 3, 2008 21:34:46 GMT -6
Becoming an expert on one position and forming a bond with one specific group and making that group the best in the area.
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Post by touchdowng on Feb 3, 2008 22:05:44 GMT -6
larrymoe
I can understand some delegation amongst a staff. But from your response, you are probably doing more than your share.
why are you doing the HCs responsibilities?
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Post by coachcalande on Feb 4, 2008 4:32:49 GMT -6
Free team gear
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Post by realdawg on Feb 4, 2008 6:14:00 GMT -6
One thing I dont see mentioned here that is important to me-as an Assistant I think you can spend more time getting to know the kids and mentoring them and teaching them more about life and character. A Head Coach, I know, also tries to do these things, but with so much on his plate, he often has other distractions.
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Post by morris on Feb 4, 2008 8:44:33 GMT -6
Not having to get games, paperwork, making a plan for getting funding/money and dealing with certain people. I honestly do not have much of any desire to be a HC because I do not want to deal with all of that stuff. I just want to coach. I have heard a number of times when you stop coaching when you become a HC. While I know that is not 100% true I do think you coach a good deal less.
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Post by briangilbert on Feb 4, 2008 9:04:09 GMT -6
To each their own I say.
I'd love to be a HC for every reason stated on here.
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Post by coachjoe3 on Feb 4, 2008 9:14:58 GMT -6
I don't know what the advantages are. In my current situation, I'm the one that does most of the stuff you guys listed as the HC doing. Heard a college coach at a clinic once between sessions say that when he was an asst. the HC was the guy who wore the school blazer with the crest on it and kicked back at functions while everyone thought he was running the program, when it was really the assistants back at the office keeping everything going while the HC was pressing the flesh! I would think the best part for me as an assistant runs along the lines of what some guys said here, oppotunity to learn with less pressure (parents, admin., media, etc.). |
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Post by ram7gm on Feb 4, 2008 17:17:53 GMT -6
Agree with what a lot of guys have said - Being an asst is coaching without all the crap the HC has to deal with. No media, no parents, no admin, no salesmen. Just your position/group, your gameplanning responsibilities, etc.
It's coaching in its purest form.
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Post by ramsoc on Feb 5, 2008 11:16:18 GMT -6
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Post by leighty on Feb 8, 2008 3:52:07 GMT -6
To each their own I say. I'd love to be a HC for every reason stated on here. word |
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Post by spartancoach on Feb 8, 2008 13:18:50 GMT -6
I'm with sls, 100% and without hesitation. The best part about being an assistant is "You'll have to talk to the HC about that."
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Post by larrymoe on Feb 9, 2008 23:26:17 GMT -6
larrymoe I can understand some delegation amongst a staff. But from your response, you are probably doing more than your share. why are you doing the HCs responsibilities? Because if I don't, then it just won't get done and we'll continue to suck for all eternity. Our HC is not a real motivated guy to improve anything. |
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Post by coachcalande on Feb 10, 2008 7:43:11 GMT -6
I think if I ever get a hc gig Ill just buy the first round for everyone here...I dunno, it seems like a great thing to me.
Being an assistant is probably fine for some guys but it leaves a hole in me. Just keep chopping wood and winning games.
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Post by ajreaper on Feb 10, 2008 8:13:05 GMT -6
larrymoe I can understand some delegation amongst a staff. But from your response, you are probably doing more than your share. why are you doing the HCs responsibilities? Because if I don't, then it just won't get done and we'll continue to suck for all eternity. Our HC is not a real motivated guy to improve anything. Larry- honestly man move on to a situation where 1) everyone shares the burden 2) you work for and are surrounded by motivated people and 3) You'll be in a better position to advance your own career- a hard working, dedicated HC wants to see his assistants grow professionally and will help them in their quest to be an OC, DC or HC. You'll likely not get any of the credit for your efforts- an HC that lazy certainly will not help you land your next job and he'll sit back and reap the benefits of your efforts. |
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Post by coachcalande on Feb 10, 2008 8:16:15 GMT -6
That is a very accurate post.
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Post by coachcalande on Feb 10, 2008 9:16:31 GMT -6
lol...funny stuff dc. Im with you though. I take it personally if our offense performs poorly because I am the oline coach and to me, thats offense. defensively I coached linebackers and had my hands in the dline and des constantly because I needed them to perform or the lbers couldnt! anyhow, I think the assistants SHOULD try to outwork the HC when it comes to areas that we are permitted to work at...I mean, get to teh school and work with your position kids, get to the wt room, do grade checks....help out!
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Post by larrymoe on Feb 10, 2008 9:31:56 GMT -6
Larry- honestly man move on to a situation where 1) everyone shares the burden 2) you work for and are surrounded by motivated people and 3) You'll be in a better position to advance your own career- a hard working, dedicated HC wants to see his assistants grow professionally and will help them in their quest to be an OC, DC or HC. You'll likely not get any of the credit for your efforts- an HC that lazy certainly will not help you land your next job and he'll sit back and reap the benefits of your efforts. Any other place, I'd already be out the door. Our HC has talked numerous times about leaving after this year and I'm just going to see if that is true. It may happen before then from all accounts, including him. It's more or less a waiting game. I'll be honest, I'd love to have his job. Especially since I feel like I already do it. And I don't really want to advance my career so I can move to the next job. This is my hometown and my alma mater. I want to turn the thing around again and get our program to where it should be. I'm not looking to win and move somewhere else. I love my teaching job, love the community, have family close, and I like our kids. We can have success here. In the mean time, I'm willing to put in the dues to make the program better for when he does leave/get fired. |
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Post by larrymoe on Feb 10, 2008 9:39:05 GMT -6
That's your own fault. I refuse to outwork the HC. So what would you suggest I do? Just sit around and let nothing happen? I've talked to the guy and he isn't going to change. If I don't work harder than him we don't have a lot of things we HAVE to have to successful. We don't have a weight program that does anything but beach workouts, we don't have a points program to get kids to show up, we don't ever go to any clinics to learn any new things, we don't etc. I can't do that. Not doing the work to me, would be worse than having to outwork the guy. I couldn't stand to just sit around and allow our program to wallow in suckland. Mentally it killed me last year to watch it happen. I just decided that if no one else was going to do it and it had to be done, I'm going to do it. |
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