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Post by poweriguy on Jan 20, 2012 12:55:40 GMT -6
I want my kids to be able to breathe during the stoppage, not hunched over taking a knee. If it's serious come to the sideline and get a drink and listen to the coaches. I really don't want my kids watching , God forbid, EMT's working on a kid.
I also agree, it's a pee wee thing. Bad things happen to good people, live with it and move on. Life lesson I say.
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Post by coachbdud on Jan 20, 2012 13:11:15 GMT -6
Everybody does it around here, I hate it so much
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Post by sdfbcoach on Jan 20, 2012 15:01:36 GMT -6
we never used to unless it was a serious injury but then we caught holy hell from another team when we didnt so now we do it. I dont think you need to do it when someone has a cramp or something minor but we see teams do it all the time. I hate doing it for minor stuff but the hassle we got for not doing it has led us to do it all the time.
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Post by txdecoach on Jan 20, 2012 15:18:52 GMT -6
Everybody here does it too. Not a big fan. Get the kid off the field and lets play. If it's serious we'll act accordingly.
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Post by rhscoachbh on Jan 20, 2012 18:10:47 GMT -6
We don't at the school I'm at.
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Post by coachmitts on Jan 20, 2012 18:29:31 GMT -6
We always have to. I dont like it though. But I also come from the same thought that I am going to keep scoring. It isnt my job to stop my kids. Some call it bad sportsmanship, but it is sport. Not quilting class.
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Post by coachorr on Jan 20, 2012 23:29:36 GMT -6
Do they do it in the NFL or at the College level? (Rhetorical)
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Post by coachorr on Jan 20, 2012 23:31:40 GMT -6
we never used to unless it was a serious injury but then we caught holy hell from another team when we didnt so now we do it. I dont think you need to do it when someone has a cramp or something minor but we see teams do it all the time. I hate doing it for minor stuff but the hassle we got for not doing it has led us to do it all the time. Simply ask the head coach if the nearest College or NFL team does it. Then say, "We ain't doing it either unless an ambulance shows up".
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Post by syfbcoach on Jan 22, 2012 19:31:52 GMT -6
I HATE IT!! We never did it when I played in HS and college and how many college and NFL teams do it? I think this came from AYSO and all the freaking soccer moms. Show respect by playing clean and hard and clap when he is removed from the field.
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Post by coachorr on Jan 22, 2012 19:41:24 GMT -6
I HATE IT!! We never did it when I played in HS and college and how many college and NFL teams do it? I think this came from AYSO and all the freaking soccer moms. Show respect by playing clean and hard and clap when he is removed from the field. I agree, the clap is good enough.
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Post by coachcb on Jan 22, 2012 20:21:02 GMT -6
We do it if the guy is down for a bit, but it has nothing to do with symbolism for me. It's to keep the kids from d-cking around on the sidelines. But, that's also because we don't have trainers so I'm generally out there on the field, helping out.
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Post by coachorr on Jan 22, 2012 23:46:07 GMT -6
Everybody does it around here, I hate it so much It's just because you don't know nothing about sportsmanship you harda$$. You and everyone else who played in the championship games tonight.
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Post by boxman70 on Jan 23, 2012 7:24:21 GMT -6
Im a youth coach...I absolutely hate this.The past head coach I was with would make everyone do this.Im taking over the team we will not do this.We play in a competitive Jr High level league & rarely do we see major injuries.So my plan is to bring the kids to the numbers & coach them up there then clap when the player is fine.If its a major injury then we will take a knee.Otherwise im not worried.
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Post by coachdennis on Jan 23, 2012 13:00:43 GMT -6
This seems to have become a "thing" in youth football when I wasn't paying attention, so I was caught unaware last summer when an opposing player went down. Some of our kids took a knee in the defensive huddle, but another one of our players was up, wandering around, etc. He wasn't being disrespectful - the kid is 14, somewhat (OK, extremely) ADHD, and he was bored and distracted during the break in the action. Well, an opposing parent on the sidelines goes ape, screaming about disrespect, calling our kid names, the whole bit. For the life of me, I can't figure it out. Now, we have always clapped an opposing player off the field after he gets up from an injury, but this newfound slavish adherence to the "take a knee" thing strikes me, as another coach put it so aptly, the triumph of symbolism over substance. Then again, I'm a guy who isn't fond of those makeshift roadside memorials for victims of traffic collisions, so I guess that makes me a heartless $%&%#$.
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Post by coachroberts99 on Jan 25, 2012 12:55:15 GMT -6
I hated it as a player (including when I got my leg broke and I was the guy on the floor), and hate it as a coach.... I'm not saying we all clap, dance around have a laugh, but I don't see ANYTHING disrespectful about guys carrying on coaching, huddling and getting ready to play football.
When I was stretchered off I found it straight up embarrassing that everyones clapping, for what? Getting my leg broke by my Centre?!
I think it's something horrific, maybe go back into the changing rooms, or huddle up out the way, but anything else, just keep calm and carry on.
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Post by CVBears on Jan 25, 2012 13:09:34 GMT -6
I'm not a fan of taking a knee during any injury. Especially as the season goes on and the weather gets colder...Why would I want our kids taking a knee and getting cold in the middle of a game?
Maybe I just don't understand.
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Post by coachblacey on Feb 2, 2012 19:50:31 GMT -6
If its serious and ambulance is called, you'll eventually get off your knees because you're gonna be there for about 30 minutes.
I think it's a joke, parents and admin often do and say crap for the sake of doing it. Admin is looking out for themselves and dont want any outbreaks or complaints being pushed their way. Understandable. As a grown ass man, trying to win games so i ensure i have a job the next fall i want my kids to be coached up and i use every opportunity.
If its something major, head neck, cant walk...I make sure my guys are calm, relaxed. If it looks really bad, than i'll break the ice, make a joke about somethin, ask them about their day...to keep them loose because of the extended break. You dont want your players blowing their wads for not having any football action for an extended period of time.
If nothing else, group your kids by position and have them take a knee and coach their asses up. That way everyone's happy and you dont have to listen to some abrasive parent holler at you
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Post by coachcb on Feb 3, 2012 9:38:14 GMT -6
Back in '06, we were playing a first round play-off game against a very good SBV team. They cracked the hell out of our OLBs and one of them must have gotten tired of it. About the twentieth time he got cracked (you think he would have figured it out by then) he hit the ground and didn't come back up. The ambulance came out, everyone was taking a knee and the announcer said, "this doesn't look good folks."
Long story short, they rolled the kid onto a back board, put him on a stretcher and started carting him off. He raised his right arm into the air and waved to everyone and then pointed to the sky. Everyone clapped and cheered and the game went on (we lost 63-24).
We got a call after the game; the kid had a sprained ankle.
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Post by postcrack on Feb 10, 2012 9:21:29 GMT -6
Back in '06, we were playing a first round play-off game against a very good SBV team. They cracked the hell out of our OLBs and one of them must have gotten tired of it. About the twentieth time he got cracked (you think he would have figured it out by then) he hit the ground and didn't come back up. The ambulance came out, everyone was taking a knee and the announcer said, "this doesn't look good folks." Long story short, they rolled the kid onto a back board, put him on a stretcher and started carting him off. He raised his right arm into the air and waved to everyone and then pointed to the sky. Everyone clapped and cheered and the game went on (we lost 63-24). We got a call after the game; the kid had a sprained ankle. This is hilarious!! Frustrating for you I'm sure, but, funny nevertheless. Was he a contributor?
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Post by ramsoc on Feb 12, 2012 23:27:49 GMT -6
Yes, if a BAD injury...take a knee. Everything else stay on your feet and be ready to get a little coaching and ready to go. I absolutely hate the take a knee every time someone goes down for a cramp. Kid goes down... at what point do you determine if its a "BAD" injury? We had a young man tear his ACL and was done for the season, but he was off the field quicker than some major calf cramps we've had. So what are the criteria for "BAD"?
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Post by fantom on Feb 12, 2012 23:47:35 GMT -6
Yes, if a BAD injury...take a knee. Everything else stay on your feet and be ready to get a little coaching and ready to go. I absolutely hate the take a knee every time someone goes down for a cramp. Kid goes down... at what point do you determine if its a "BAD" injury? We had a young man tear his ACL and was done for the season, but he was off the field quicker than some major calf cramps we've had. So what are the criteria for "BAD"? That's why I don't believe in this knee thing at all.
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Post by coachtds on Feb 13, 2012 1:09:32 GMT -6
I don't like it much either. If it is a sign of respect, it only makes sense if it is saying "sorry you went down, I will pray for you"... but how many are actually doing that? So it is really saying, "I'm gonna make it look like I would be praying for you out of respect, even though I'm not, I will pretend.... you know.... out of respect"...
I'm a Christian coach, but I would never make a kid pray, and I don't like making them pretend to pray any better... Most guys when they go down don't really want to be stared at either right?
Never understood the clapping either. How many of you guys have seen crowds clapping as they carted a kid off? How stupid is that. I get when he gets up and walks off, but they clap at everything. Dumb.
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Post by wolverine55 on Sept 14, 2019 14:58:29 GMT -6
Those of you who do take a knee, how long is enough? We are getting absolutely slammed on social media today as we weren’t on our knees during the entirety of a 25 minute delay last night. I honestly don’t give a phuk but I imagine some players and perhaps a couple coaches are bothered by it.
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 14, 2019 16:34:52 GMT -6
Those of you who do take a knee, how long is enough? We are getting absolutely slammed on social media today as we weren’t on our knees during the entirety of a 25 minute delay last night. I honestly don’t give a phuk but I imagine some players and perhaps a couple coaches are bothered by it. Play a recorded version of the National Anthem over the PA system while a player is down. Minds will be blown and problem solved.
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Post by fantom on Sept 14, 2019 17:26:24 GMT -6
Those of you who do take a knee, how long is enough? We are getting absolutely slammed on social media today as we weren’t on our knees during the entirety of a 25 minute delay last night. I honestly don’t give a phuk but I imagine some players and perhaps a couple coaches are bothered by it. Play a recorded version of the National Anthem over the PA system while a player is down. Minds will be blown and problem solved. For 25 minutes? Hendrix version?
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 14, 2019 18:25:04 GMT -6
Play a recorded version of the National Anthem over the PA system while a player is down. Minds will be blown and problem solved. For 25 minutes? Hendrix version? Works for me. Or a nice medley
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Post by 54695469 on Sept 14, 2019 18:55:53 GMT -6
Taking a knee during an injury is really stupid, unless it is a serious, severe, type of injury...and then everyone ought to be off on their own sidelines where it shouldn't be an issue. In no way is it a sign of disrespect when a team does not take a knee. The fact that coaches even have to worry about this is a sign of where we've arrived as a society... always a victim, always someone being mistreated or disrespected... Bull, it's a football game. Everyone on that field respects everyone else on the field.
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Post by mattman2 on Sept 14, 2019 19:20:33 GMT -6
Does any other sport do this? Even at the youth level?
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Post by wolverine55 on Sept 14, 2019 20:54:57 GMT -6
Taking a knee during an injury is really stupid, unless it is a serious, severe, type of injury...and then everyone ought to be off on their own sidelines where it shouldn't be an issue. In no way is it a sign of disrespect when a team does not take a knee. The fact that coaches even have to worry about this is a sign of where we've arrived as a society... always a victim, always someone being mistreated or disrespected... Bull, it's a football game. Everyone on that field respects everyone else on the field. Totally agree
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Post by coachthurmond87 on Sept 16, 2019 21:42:38 GMT -6
I am really not for taking a knee during an injury. We have a lot of coaches who do, do it but I can assure you when I get a program it will be discussed with my staff at the beginning of the year and then thats all. I just really want the focus to be on what's next and its not disrespectful to not take a knee so stay focused and say a little prayer if needed but no need to kneel.
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