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Post by briangilbert on Jan 17, 2008 21:34:26 GMT -6
To any Head Coaches who put clinics on, How do you run your clinics? Do you have your coordinators speak on what you would like them to run at the younger levels? Or do you simply give them a few basic plays and let them run whatever they know?
I guess what I'm getting at is how much slack to you give them to run their own stuff versus what you run at the varsity level in your program?
Personally I'd like them to only run our Varsity stuff, but it's hard to find people who can teach it at every level.
We are a 4x3 defense and an Air Raid team (with some other spread elements).
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Post by slydaddy on Jan 18, 2008 6:32:13 GMT -6
Coach, I, for one, don't think the MS or junior high program needs to run the same offensive and defensive packages as the high school. I think if the fundamentals of blocking and tackling are the highest of priorities then the kids will be fine at the next level. Of course, I understand that the learning curve could be shorter if the feeder program used the same system as the high school. However, I am sure that the feeder program could use a simplified version of the high school's offense and defense and still be successful. I am the junior high coach in my county, and the high school head coach gives me free reign to do as I see fit. He runs wing-t, I run the I; they are a 4-3 team, I have a 4-4 team. Even though those systems are different, I still use the same terminology as he does for offensive formations, cadence, defensive front calls, defensive techniques, and all our special teams are the same. We warm up exactly like the high school does, and their are many things I do that the high school head coach will not have to go through just because I did it. Sorry to hi-jack this thread
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Post by lochness on Jan 18, 2008 6:48:33 GMT -6
I think it's interesting how most (not all, but most) Jr. High and Youth coaches will say that it is not necessary for them to run the same systems as the High School, and most (not all, but most) High School coaches say they would very much like their feeder programs to run a simplified version of their system. Seems funny to me!
In fairness, our most successful programs in my state all have feeder programs that are the spitting image of themselves. I'm not saying that there's an exact correlation...I'm just pointing out the interesting fact.
What we have always tried to do is simplly ask the youth level folks to provide us with a short list of what they'd like to clinic on, and we look to provide that. We don't force anything on them. If they come in and say, "coach, we want to learn your defense," then we'll teach them our defense. But, if they simply say, "coach, we want to tackle using the same fundamentals as you," we'll spend all afternoon teaching them our progression, circut, drills, etc.
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Post by CatsCoach on Jan 18, 2008 6:53:16 GMT -6
One of our local HS put on a clinic for your youth program. Our youth program is not a feeder program because our kids end up going to 1 of 2 near by high schools, so we run our own stuff on O and D. With that being said the HC coach of the High school spoke on how they run thing at practices and what makes them succesful, ect. Then his different asst(position) coaches spoke on different drill and techniques that we could use/teach at each position. One of our youth coaches ended using there zone blocking scheme. I would say the clinc was very good for us youth coaches. I hope they put on another clinc this off season.
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Post by phantom on Jan 18, 2008 7:02:03 GMT -6
One of our local HS put on a clinic for your youth program. Our youth program is not a feeder program because our kids end up going to 1 of 2 near by high schools, so we run our own stuff on O and D. With that being said the HC coach of the High school spoke on how they run thing at practices and what makes them succesful, ect. Then his different asst(position) coaches spoke on different drill and techniques that we could use/teach at each position. One of our youth coaches ended using there zone blocking scheme. I would say the clinc was very good for us youth coaches. I hope they put on another clinc this off season. I'm a HS coach and we had a clinic for youth coaches (it wasn't well attended so we never did another) and that's what we did. The HC spoke about organization and such and we assistants talked about technique and drills. We have no middle school football and the youth program is not a feeder program so they run whatever they want.
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Post by coachcalande on Jan 18, 2008 7:12:59 GMT -6
this is a chicken and egg argument.
which came first, synchronizing the youth - hs systems breeding championships....or winning championships leading to synchronization?
I think its a great idea if you can do it, but dont force it. Hard enough to get good help as it is. If the youngsters are learning a passion for the game, having fun, being taught how to be a good team member and tough football player who is willing to pay the price for success who cares if they call the off tackle play "power" or "smash" or whatever...
It shouldnt be too much to ask that a coach at the lower level number his backs the same and use the same hole numbering and motion terms and even formation names. It shouldnt be too much to ask that they teach some of the basic oline schemes such as power, sweep, counter, trap and iso...
for me, if and when I land a HC gig Im going to ask the youth coaches to run 5 double wing plays. sweep, power, counter, trap and wedge. thats it.
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Post by coachcalande on Jan 18, 2008 7:28:44 GMT -6
To any Head Coaches who put clinics on, How do you run your clinics? Do you have your coordinators speak on what you would like them to run at the younger levels? Or do you simply give them a few basic plays and let them run whatever they know? I guess what I'm getting at is how much slack to you give them to run their own stuff versus what you run at the varsity level in your program? Personally I'd like them to only run our Varsity stuff, but it's hard to find people who can teach it at every level. We are a 4x3 defense and an Air Raid team (with some other spread elements). the 43 might not be a very good choice to run at the youth level, why not teach them your goal line philosophies and let them run that. also, regarding your air raid attack..do you have a short yardage offense? teach them that. finally, I have done clinics for the youth teams that fed my frosh team and i showed video, broke it down, broke down play calling, blocking schemes, chalk talk, technique and fundamentals demos, drills and play walk and run thrus. instant success for a youth team that 0-16 two years prior. in their first year using my system they went 8-3, won their championship and increased tds scored from 2 to 43. they only ran about 8 plays and used my defense with about 5 stunts.
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Post by CatsCoach on Jan 18, 2008 7:29:27 GMT -6
One of our local HS put on a clinic for your youth program. Our youth program is not a feeder program because our kids end up going to 1 of 2 near by high schools, so we run our own stuff on O and D. With that being said the HC coach of the High school spoke on how they run thing at practices and what makes them succesful, ect. Then his different asst(position) coaches spoke on different drill and techniques that we could use/teach at each position. One of our youth coaches ended using there zone blocking scheme. I would say the clinc was very good for us youth coaches. I hope they put on another clinc this off season. I'm a HS coach and we had a clinic for youth coaches (it wasn't well attended so we never did another) and that's what we did. The HC spoke about organization and such and we assistants talked about technique and drills. We have no middle school football and the youth program is not a feeder program so they run whatever they want. The clinc that was very well attended. It was most coaches from our youth program and then some coaches from very near by youth program and a few other coaches mixed in also from our area. Like you Phantom our middle school(s) don't have football either. Everything is youth until they get to HS.
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Post by CatsCoach on Jan 18, 2008 7:39:14 GMT -6
It shouldnt be too much to ask that a coach at the lower level number his backs the same and use the same hole numbering and motion terms and even formation names. It shouldnt be too much to ask that they teach some of the basic oline schemes such as power, sweep, counter, trap and iso... Coachcalande, I do agree with on that. But in our case(our porgrams case), it would not work! Half the kids on the team that I coach would go to one HS and the other half would go to the other. The HS are about 7miles apart. I guess it just come down to are the kids taught the fundamentals of how to block and tackle.
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Post by coachcalande on Jan 18, 2008 7:43:16 GMT -6
Well then, id be willing to bet that which ever hs staff pours the most support into the youth program gets what they want. I played at a jr high that fed rival schools...guess what, we ran our own system...but years later after a state title was one by the other school (one of four) the jr high bought in and ran the state champs stuff (sort of)
so , they got their feeder program by EARNING IT not by demanding it.
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Post by coachcalande on Jan 18, 2008 7:44:14 GMT -6
Let me add to this thread. you dont even have to have a clinic if you make videos of techniques, chalk talk, drills and even provide coaching manuals. why coaches are too lazy to do this...well i dunno. being a dwer it is easy enough for me to send my practice and drills manual to my youth coaches.
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Post by trojan on Jan 18, 2008 9:10:00 GMT -6
In fairness, our most successful programs in my state all have feeder programs that are the spitting image of themselves. I'm not saying that there's an exact correlation...I'm just pointing out the interesting fact. I coach MS and we run the varsity's offense. Fewer plays and formations? Yes. When I attend our varsity games, I spend a lot of time with my 7th graders. I quiz them on what formation they see or what play they just ran on the field. They recognize the ones we run, and you can (sometimes) see a little light bulb come on. Related to lochness' post, I was wondering how many perennial playoff teams have feeder programs that run their stuff, and how many don't. My suspicion is that programs with repeated trips to the playoffs do have feeders that run their stuff.
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Post by morris on Jan 18, 2008 9:17:53 GMT -6
MS teams can run Air Raid. There are a number of good MS Air Raid teams in KY. It has to do with the teaching of it. I know of some MS teams that run 33, 35, and the such and do fine. The part they focus on is the stopping the run since that is what they will see.
Below MS with the youth you just turn it into more of singlewing type stuff. Gets them use to the gun and it is close to the gun run game.
Where I have an issue with HS/MS is when you get a HS coachign staff that wants you to run or use techniques that just are not developmental wise the best idea. Like IZ/OZ for MS. You can do it but will it work better than straight man? Contact the guys at Lexington Christian. What they do sounds close to what you are looking to do.
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Post by CatsCoach on Jan 18, 2008 10:36:24 GMT -6
Let me add to this thread. you dont even have to have a clinic if you make videos of techniques, chalk talk, drills and even provide coaching manuals. why coaches are too lazy to do this...well i dunno. being a dwer it is easy enough for me to send my practice and drills manual to my youth coaches. Totally agree coach! ;D
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Post by ajreaper on Jan 18, 2008 11:32:03 GMT -6
Our two middle schools play football Jan 22nd - Mar. 6th (6th - 8th grade tackle) this is done so as many of the high school staff as possible can participate. We give them a scaled down version of our offense- inside veer, midline, iso, sweep and trap in addition to a few play action passes and several one step passes and depending on how the goods absorb stuff we can add as the season progresses. I also have a couple of youth league coaches who coach for us as well and as I told them this week when we met: I can teach a new formation in 15 minutes it takes a few years to teach a player to block and tackle well so lets spend the bulk of our time teaching and drilling those skills rather then teaching a new play every other day. We also restrict them to a single base Defense which does not allow for any blitzing or line stunts- teach them to play with solid fundamentals. We also allow no "trick plays"- no reverses or double passes as it's pretty easy to fool a 12 year old with stuff. It's straight up fundamental football which is what I want.
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Post by briangilbert on Jan 21, 2008 19:02:42 GMT -6
Let me add to this thread. you dont even have to have a clinic if you make videos of techniques, chalk talk, drills and even provide coaching manuals. why coaches are too lazy to do this...well i dunno. being a dwer it is easy enough for me to send my practice and drills manual to my youth coaches. This is a great idea, I'm ashamed that I didn't think of it myself. Thanks everyone for your ideas. I personally believe that the more linked up the Youth Programs are to the HS program the better the program and community will be. You can win if your youth programs don't run your varsity stuff, but I think in the long run it can only help.
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Post by rideanddecide on Jan 22, 2008 6:56:39 GMT -6
We have scheme and technique videos put together for our youth coaches. We also hold clinics throughout the year focusing on one aspect of our program. I believe breaking it up makes it easier to learn everything and the videos provide something to go back to look at.
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Post by hemlock on Jan 22, 2008 7:13:13 GMT -6
In terms of building a "PROGRAM" I think that it is critical that the MS and Youth leagues run a simplified version of what the HS runs. The MS is probably the easiest to get on board since they are affiliated with your district; youth leagues are bit trickier, so if you get them on board that's great. But MS should run your system, albeit significantly scaled down.
The problem, as noted above, is that a lot of the MS coaches want to run their own show. This is always a problem; as the HC of a program when you take the job you should try to get put into your deal a provision that gives you full control over your district's football programs. Although its nice if the kids win, the most important thing is for them to learn the fundamentals of your system. MS guys that are not completely on board all think that they the next Bear Bryant; they need to understand that their role is primarily teaching, that they are laying the foundation for the varsity. Ideally, when a kid metriculates up to the varsity, the varsity coaches should not have to teach him the program's terminology, language, etc.
The big problem with MS guys is that if you run a spread offense and they are not successful right away with it they will try to alter it or switch to something that they know will work at that level much more easily. Those are guys you don't want on your staff. Regardless of what the score is, they need to work the system and convince the kids and their parents that in the end this will all payoff.
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Post by coachcalande on Jan 22, 2008 9:12:30 GMT -6
dc- you still have to teach that stuff again in hs for several reasons. youll have a number of kids who didnt play youth or ms in your system.
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Post by cmow5 on Jan 22, 2008 9:32:38 GMT -6
One thing I would like to add coming from a middle school coach. Not only does it help the kids coming up to you it also helps the middle school coaches. I know around here most of the middle school coaches are new to coaching and would like to move up to the high school one day. I know in my case I will be at the high school in a couple years and we run a scaled down version of there stuff so in a couple years when I get there I will no a little bit of there stuff which will make it easier on me and them.
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Post by coachcalande on Jan 22, 2008 10:01:55 GMT -6
One thing I would like to add coming from a middle school coach. Not only does it help the kids coming up to you it also helps the middle school coaches. I know around here most of the middle school coaches are new to coaching and would like to move up to the high school one day. I know in my case I will be at the high school in a couple years and we run a scaled down version of there stuff so in a couple years when I get there I will no a little bit of there stuff which will make it easier on me and them. I think SOMETIMES its a big help...some varsity coaches are absolutely clueless. When that is the case you are better off doing your own thing.
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Post by tiger46 on Jan 22, 2008 10:31:32 GMT -6
As a youth coach, if the local H.S. coach came over to my practice field and ask if I'd run his system, I'd give him a polite- but, firm- "No." I live in a fair-sized city. There are too many variables in the timeframe between when my players leave me to when they reach HS to make it a viable way to teach my players football. The HS may switch systems. The coaching staff may leave. My players may move away, etc... Hell, as is the case of the HS team closest to where I coach, maybe their HS team just sucks. And, in Texas, that makes it even more likely that that current staff won't be there by the time my players reach HS. Why would I want to teach my players the way that they teach theirs? I think it's way more important for a youth coach to teach youth players good fundamental skills and good attitude towards the game and coaches. I stress to the players about having the right attitude to succeed in life. I stress that they have passing grades before they even think about hitting my practice field. If they have passing grades, I challenge them to get their grades higher. Low ‘C’s & ‘D’s are just one excuse away from an ‘F’. I talk with their parents as much as possible to try to change the boys’ attitudes about commitment, team play, etc… Relatively few kids in any given H.S. actually play HS football. If one of my players do go on to play HS ball, should the HC be upset with me because I didn’t teach his system? Or, should he be satisfied that I helped hand him a player that knows to keep his grades up to maintain eligibility, who knows to give max effort, to not argue with coaches and undermine the program, to not be selfish and whine about not being starting QB but is proud that he earned starting TE? I do understand that it is easier to deal with kids that already have a foundation in what you are teaching. But, teaching kids that have no background in your program shouldn’t stop a HS coach from having success. Put another way, what would a HS coach do if you got a transfer from another school and that player was a honor roll, stud Power-I TB with a great attitude? Would you say, “Sorry, son. We run the Spread here. We have no place for you.” Are HS coaches seriously telling us that a 46 Bear, man press, shut down CB can’t be taught to be useful to his 4-3 Cover 3 Zone defense? Too many HS coaches think they inherit the local youth programs by rights. And, too many don’t know the first thing about running a youth program. It’s not the HS’s system. It’s not the HS head coach’s program. It’s the youth coaches own time that they’re volunteering. It’s the youth coaches system and program. Handing a youth coach your favorite 10 plays and a PowerPoint Slide on how you line up on defense is not contributing to that youth coach’s success. How is he to break down your terminology so that his 10yr olds can run those plays? How does he get his team to execute your play that you ‘hang your hat on’? How does he adjust when it doesn’t work for him? Did you take into account many youth leagues’ MPP rules? Did you check into whether league rules allow him to blitz, allow him to line up a NG over their Center before you handed him your 5-3 defense alignment? There are much more important things for a HS coach to stress to a youth program. Coach Calande is already pointing the way for you. Teach the youth coach how to pick a staff, how to deal with a staff and parents, how to organize a practice(HUGE PRIORITY!), invite him to get a close-up look at what you do. Give them drills to run, etc… Most of all, invest your time and resources to youth programs, run your own successful HS program and earn the privilege of having a youth program feed into yours. Okay, I’m off my soapbox.
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Post by bhb on Jan 22, 2008 10:43:50 GMT -6
We don't have MS football in our state- it's youth all the way through 8th grade and to tell you the truth it's very good football.. Most of the youth teams are very well coached by actual football coaches- there are very few HC's that have kids on their teams.. Sure, every team has an assistant or two who follows his kid as he moves up, but rarely are those guys anything more than bag holders.. The guys running the schemes and teaching the techniques are actual football guys.. I think, from my experience of watching the youth league our local HS feeds to that sometimes they get a bad rap.. Most of the HC's I see are guys who already have a career and aren't looking to get into teaching, but study just as hard as many of the HS coaches.. I see these guys at every clinic, and they're footing the bill themselves, out of their own pockets as opposed to getting it from the school.. Maybe we're just lucky in our area, but these guys are dedicated. Sure, a few slip through the cracks but they never last long..
We try to have them produce excellent tacklers, fundamentally sound blockers, and kids who are comfortable playing low.. That is much more beneficial than having everyone know the formations & plays before they get to HS.. Focus on fundy's and love of the game and everything will be good..
Besides, who's to say the same coaches will still be there, running the same stuff, and the kid will still be playing the same position when he gets there? Going by that logic shouldn't the HS run the same stuff as the local JUCO? I know that sounds silly, and it is- it's meant to be.. Bottom line is that the youth guys spend a lot of their own time and money doing this so as long as they're teaching correct fundamentals, playing everyone, and developing a passion for the game in the kids it's all good..
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Post by bhb on Jan 22, 2008 10:47:49 GMT -6
But back to the question of putting on clinics I say definitely!! Put on fundamental clinics as opposed to scheme clinics.. When you have good dedicated youth coaches who study the game and put the interest of the kids first forcing a particular scheme down their throats through clinics will lead to poor turn out.. If you hold clinics on tackling, passing, catching, blocking, practice planning I tghink you'll have much better turn out..
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Post by rideanddecide on Jan 22, 2008 11:37:42 GMT -6
How should the relationship between a HS program and youth/ms program be different/the same between large districts and small districts?
I totally understand some of the coaches who say the HS staff won't even be here, or half these kids will never play.
That sounds totally different than our situation. I'm an HC in a small district that plans on staying and I won't be fired unless I do something stupid. If a kid plays youth ball there is a good chance he'll play in high school. Obviously we want technique, passion, and coachability taught in youth ball, but why wouldn't a coach in my situation want these kids to also be learning our system? Hell, if a youth coach is good enough to coach a different system because he has that much experience in it then I better find a way to get him on my staff!
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Post by bhb on Jan 22, 2008 12:04:55 GMT -6
Noones saying you "shouldn't" want it- I just don't personally think it's a deal breaker.. Here, our youth organization has 5 levels of play, each level having a minimum of 8 coaches- most have more.. If they're doing a good job why risk having them leave over something like this? At that point I would imagine the youth program would then fall on your shoulders- that's a lot more work that just fell on your plate..Maybe it's worth it, I don't know..
Our youth program is huge- you say yours is small.. In a smaller program it may absolutely be the way to go- I have no experience with that, but in a larger program I think the HS HC has to give a little, and the youth HC's also have to give a little.. In a perfect world - yeah right-LOL.. Don't forget that the youth guys don't get paid..
I'm not sure what you mean by if he's good enough to run his own system you should get him on your staff.. I will tell you that every single HC in our areas youth program is good enough to run their own system- maybe not at the HS level, but definitely at their level.. they wouldn't be a HC if they couldn't.. I don't know, maybe we're lucky, but our area has excellent youth football.. Most of the 8th grade games are very similar to freshmen level games in terms of quality of play and coaching- some are better.. Like I said, alot of those guys have no interest in coaching HS.. They have their careers set, and they love the game and the youth league allows them to be a part of it in a very competitive manner, yet still feed their families.. Practices are at night, games are on the weekends..
Hey, I understand what you're saying, and I see the logic behind it.. I certainly don't have the answers.. All I can say is that I see both sides of it- and I have respect for both the HS coaches opinion, and the youth HC's opinion.. Just kind of playing devils advocate here that's all.. This is one of those debates that will go on forever and no-one will ever be right or wrong..
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Post by tiger46 on Jan 22, 2008 13:14:41 GMT -6
Beardc, I don't know that the relationship between a HS program and a youth program should be different because of district size. I think that the things that some of the coaches in this thread have already listed as important target areas to concentrate on when putting on clinics would still be important no matter what size the district or town that they're taught in. BHB list of things to put in a clinic is pretty nice. It's great to grow up within a football system. I understand that kids who didn't grow up in that system or didn't come to football until later grades are going to be behind. I grew up in a small Texas town. Our system was more like the one DCOhio describes. Same system from 3rd grade to 12th (flag football through 6th grade. No actual tackle football until 7th). No major changes in the system or program and very few changes in coaching staff in the years that I went to school there- which was actually 3rd through 12th grade. The town had pretty successful football teams. No state championships but, plenty of district championships, good play-off runs, etc... 3rd through 5th grade, I had the same coach. He suffered from arthritis or some other ailment, so bad that he had almost no range of motion to speak of. He had a hump in his back and I didn't particularly like him. But, he taught us all the varsity's basic terminology, hole numbering, etc... But, more important imo, is that we all knew how to get down in perfect 3pt. & 4pt stances. How did a coach that couldn't even bend over to tie his shoes due to physical health teach a bunch of kids how to do things like execute perfect form stances and blocks and, myriad other physical skills? I don't know... I guess someone may have wanted to have asked him before he died. It's just my opinion. But, I don't think it was all important that he was setting our feet along the split-back veer/option path that the varsity ran. It was more important that we knew how to block, get down in proper stances, basic footwork, etc... which could be used in about any offense primarily ran back then. It didn't matter if the varsity ran a 4-3 or, 5-3 defense if I didn't know my responsibilities in 'Cover 3' and 'man'. In my case, it was the basic skill sets to perform my role as a DB that I brought to the team; not my ability to parrot off the varsity HC's personal football philosophy or, to know exactly where to line up in his power-I offense.
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Post by rideanddecide on Jan 22, 2008 14:25:41 GMT -6
I agree. Skills, skills, skills.
All I've meant to say is that we are able to run the same system and terminology throughout our youth program and I appreciate that we can do this.
I know one major difference between districts of different sizes is availability of coaches.
If your town population is 2100 and you field football for 8 football teams (4th-HS) then your pool of potential coaches is smaller. This is why I feel that if there is a really, really good coach at the youth level then I would try to get him on our HS staff. We all want great coaches at the youth level, but that doesn't do us much good if our varsity staff is watered down because of it.
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Post by coachsky on Jan 22, 2008 14:26:24 GMT -6
I cut my teeth coaching in a youth league that is based on feeder teams. If you look at the HS teams success, you see that the closer the Youth Teams stick to what the HS is doing, the more state Championship Final appearances there are.
The story of Eric Block comes to mind. This 14 year old High School Freshman Quarterback, in his first HS game, led Bellevue WA in an upset of De LaSalle, who had the longest high school winning streak. He had been running the same offense since he was 8 years old.
In this years. WA states 3A Championship Sophomore QB Jake Heaps led Skyline to the state high school championship in their no huddle shotgun spread offense. The Player of the Game was junior receiver Gino Simone. I have coached against those two kids since they were 10 or 11 years old. Running an offense that was based ion the principles of their high school and coach Steve Gervais.
At the WA state 4A level state Championship, Bothell was lead by QB Johnny Hecker and RB Patrick Oterbach, they (and about 15 other players from that state runner up team) have played the same positions in a feeder program since they were 8 or 9, they knew a lot of the HS plays and terminology when they were 11.
Feeder programs work! The more sync - the better success at HS.
Here's the caveat and cart and horse dilemma. A lot of youth programs won't follow an unsuccessful HS program and certainly wont have it forced upon them. For a HS coach to implement a great feeder program he needs to start winning and then offer assistant to the local youth and Jr high program. It can't be forced, it has to be fostered and grown.
I coach HS now, in a different league, different community. Not a consistently success HS program. We had our first Camp last year - over 80 kids attended and a clinic for the Youth Coaches. In order for us to get to a feeder program we are going to keep up the camps and clinics, win more games, continue our outreach to the youth programs. It's a process. Unless we win consistently it will be hard to develop a great feeder program.
Here's a couple of myths I would like to dispell about Feeder Progams that I''ve heard from both HS coaches and Youth Coaches:
- "Most of the kids in Youth ball won't play HS ball" - That such a crock! If you look at the HS teams I listed above about 80% of their starting lineup played youth ball in the feeder program.
- " Most kids won't even play the same postions in HS". - That's a joke all those teams listed above had almost exactly the same backfields as they did in youth. At the school I coach at now all three of our QB's were youth QB's.
- "The only thing they need to know is fundamentals" - sure that is the base, the bare minimum, but feeder programs that take it beyond the base, to terminology and base playbooks, warm ups, etc. are farther ahead, much farther.
These relationships are beneficial for the kids - Youth and HS coaches that dont get it, have their head in the sand and their EGO's in front of what is best for the kids.
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Post by coachsky on Jan 22, 2008 14:29:18 GMT -6
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