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Post by redbudfan on Dec 14, 2005 12:37:54 GMT -6
Would you guys please post the definition or what the letters stand for in your post's the first time you use the acronym? I am having a difficult time following most posts, because everyone has their own acronym's they love to use and these acronym's could be completely different then mine or the next guy and it's really confusing. If I am way off base here please disregard this post.
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Post by coachcalande on Dec 14, 2005 12:54:21 GMT -6
COACH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHICH ACRONYMS YOU ARE REFERRING TO.
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Post by tog on Dec 14, 2005 12:55:29 GMT -6
ol=offensive line lb=linebacker rb=runningback psol=playside ol bsol=backside ol bslb=backside linebacker dt=defensive tackle de=deffensive end psde=playside defensive end
those are ones I use.
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Post by redbudfan on Dec 14, 2005 13:13:43 GMT -6
BOB - I assume it means back on back but maybe the poster means something else. Like big on big who knows? Whip - MOFO - MOFC -
Also some of the terminology being used is pretty specific to the coach that uses it. So if you post some of your own terminology it would be a big help when reading the posts if you described what you meant.
It's just thought if you guys don't want to ok no problem I just have to go back and ask the poster what he means when I don't understand. I just thought I might not be the only one getting confused
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Post by tog on Dec 14, 2005 13:22:40 GMT -6
redbud, its a good idea
we should come up with a list of what all this mess means
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Post by tog on Dec 14, 2005 13:24:25 GMT -6
that's why I stickied it
gonna put it into the general info thread when i have time
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Post by tribepride on Dec 14, 2005 13:24:56 GMT -6
OSV - outside veer ISV - inside veer EMOL(s) - end man on the line of scrimmage
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Post by saintrad on Dec 14, 2005 13:34:16 GMT -6
MOFO = middle of field open MOFC = middle of field closed (both relate to the location of the free safety(s))
Whip = a tag to an crossing pattern where the receiver runs to a certain point, then reverses direction or stops in a hole between a zone.
most of my terminology is similiar to other people's terminlology. There are a few terms that relate to my audible or blocking scheme that are private information, as most coaches have, and would not like our competitors to know how and why they are used.
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Post by tog on Dec 14, 2005 14:42:37 GMT -6
IZ=inside zone OZ=outside zone GT=counter gt, or counter trey
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Post by tribepride on Dec 14, 2005 14:50:46 GMT -6
tog
Maybe you could post an "agreeable"(standard for this forum) numbering system for DL techniques. That way we can cut down on the confusion when people are talking about different shades, etc.
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Post by tog on Dec 14, 2005 15:41:36 GMT -6
ok
0=head up on center nose shade=shade on center 1=inside shade of guard 2=head up on guard 3=outside shade on guard 4i=inside shade of tackle 4=head up on tackle 5=outside shade of tackle
this is where it gets tricky 7=inside shade of TE 6=head up on TE 9=head up on TE
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Post by los on Dec 14, 2005 19:15:19 GMT -6
9=outside shade of TE How about the letter designations for the different reciever positions, I usually just call them by name and some of those alphabetic things confuse me a little too! Lets don't even get into coverage descriptions!@#*! Arghhh...
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Post by Mav on Dec 14, 2005 19:25:54 GMT -6
We way we teach the basic alpha designations for the recievers: we tell them to picture the most basic of offensive formation... Pro Rt, then go left to right x y z
x oooooy z
x=split, y=TE, z=flanker Seems to work for the kids.
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Post by Mav on Dec 14, 2005 19:27:51 GMT -6
oops the spacing didn't work for the z
........x.........00000Y............................ ...............................................Z.........
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Post by Mav on Dec 14, 2005 19:40:34 GMT -6
I believe the most common standard for DLine techniques is the old Bear Bryant/Bum Phillips system which is almost exactly what tog wrote except the 1 tech is a shade on the Center and the 2i (for inside) is the inside shade on the Guard. Another tech is the 8, which is one position outside the TE -- usually the wingback spot. So it goes 0,2,4,6,8 for head up, 1,3,5,9 for outside and 2i,4i,7 for inside. But it doesn't really matter as long as we all use the same standard.
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Post by airman on Dec 14, 2005 21:45:08 GMT -6
see BS can man two things
when talking to your players it means, back side
when talking to the ref is means BS
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Post by tog on Dec 14, 2005 21:46:19 GMT -6
lol
I will leave off all of my "colorfull" acronyms
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 14, 2005 21:50:30 GMT -6
well....i have often been referred to as a BAD MOFO..... but, that was back in the playin' days, of course.... LOL!!!!!!
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Post by mitch on Dec 14, 2005 21:51:56 GMT -6
Someone really needs to publish a coachspeak dictionary. I think every clinic I go to I hear at least half a dozen new "buzz" words! I guess we are still old-school, but we still call the Def End to the weak side the "weak end". I'm not that old, but at the clinics I feel like I'm in the stone-ages!!
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 14, 2005 21:57:35 GMT -6
i really love it when i'm talking to "one of those guys" that will spit out all this stuff like, "well, if the stabber dogs, then we kick the down & horn up to the next bubble"....like that is EVERY DAY, UNIVERSAL terminology when all it is, is THE WAY THEY call it......
really hafta' love "those guys"....'cus they are SO SMART
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Post by wildcat on Dec 14, 2005 22:49:23 GMT -6
i really love it when i'm talking to "one of those guys" that will spit out all this stuff like, "well, if the stabber dogs, then we kick the down & horn up to the next bubble"....like that is EVERY DAY, UNIVERSAL terminology when all it is, is THE WAY THEY call it...... really hafta' love "those guys"....'cus they are SO SMART Coach - I ran into one of "those guys" at a clinic last year. It was one of those situations where I immediately regretted starting a conversation with this guy the second he started speaking!
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Post by wildcat on Dec 14, 2005 22:50:45 GMT -6
"well, if the stabber dogs, then we kick the down & horn up to the next bubble"....
I'm nominating this for post of the year, by the way!
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 14, 2005 22:55:56 GMT -6
"well, if the stabber dogs, then we kick the down & horn up to the next bubble"....I'm nominating this for post of the year, by the way! i confused myself on that one....what the hell WAS i saying??? LOL
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Post by tog on Dec 15, 2005 6:52:23 GMT -6
that was awesome clinic bs
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Post by redbudfan on Dec 15, 2005 7:42:17 GMT -6
well, if the stabber dogs, then we kick the down & horn up to the next bubble This is my point I know it's not an acronym but sometimes I need a decoder ring to interpret some coach's terminology.
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Post by wildcat on Dec 15, 2005 8:11:29 GMT -6
Huey owes me a new keyboard...
I was drinking coffee when I read his "clinicspeak" example yesterday and spewed it all over the keyboard and monitor because I was laughing so hard!
I liked it so much that I put it in my sig line!
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Post by saintrad on Dec 15, 2005 8:30:47 GMT -6
i thought stabbing dogs was illegal in most states and horning up seems like something only adults should be doing with each other
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Post by airman on Dec 15, 2005 19:21:15 GMT -6
I was talking to a good old boy from the south told me about the him run blocking and him pass protection.
so I said what is this. the guy says, the oline looks the the defense and says, I got him, you got him.
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Post by los on Dec 15, 2005 20:14:27 GMT -6
That sounds like our O- line when the def. is jumping around! I guess long as all the him's, her's and it's get blocked its all good!@#*!
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Post by outlawzheadcoach on Dec 15, 2005 21:20:08 GMT -6
Well I can say this much, I am fairly new to coaching and this stuff is about as clear as mud even with the "definition" of the acronyms. I am sure that I will catch on but it will just take time!
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