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Post by noplaysoff on Sept 5, 2010 18:55:24 GMT -6
Hi guys, quick question.
I got hired, essentially as a volunteer coach, but I've been working my butt off full-time (like the rest of the coaching staff). I'm a young guy, still in college, and I have a Facebook. There is nothing incriminating, because I'd like to believe I'm a high character human being, but there is something strange about 2 players (starting QB and starting FS) adding my as a friend on Facebook.
I like these kids, but I think keeping home and work separated is a good idea. I also thought of deleting facebook all together, although I'd lose a lot of connections to some family members and college buddies.
Thoughts? Thank you.
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Post by phantom on Sept 5, 2010 19:00:27 GMT -6
Hi guys, quick question. I got hired, essentially as a volunteer coach, but I've been working my butt off full-time (like the rest of the coaching staff). I'm a young guy, still in college, and I have a Facebook. There is nothing incriminating, because I'd like to believe I'm a high character human being, but there is something strange about 2 players (starting QB and starting FS) adding my as a friend on Facebook. I like these kids, but I think keeping home and work separated is a good idea. I also thought of deleting facebook all together, although I'd lose a lot of connections to some family members and college buddies. Thoughts? Thank you. I have several players friended. It's a great way to spy on them and see what they're doing and what they're thinking. Be careful what you post but you were going to do that anyway.
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Post by brophy on Sept 5, 2010 19:02:38 GMT -6
It takes two to tango.....
People just can't add others as their friends - you have to accept
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Post by noplaysoff on Sept 5, 2010 19:02:56 GMT -6
Hi guys, quick question. I got hired, essentially as a volunteer coach, but I've been working my butt off full-time (like the rest of the coaching staff). I'm a young guy, still in college, and I have a Facebook. There is nothing incriminating, because I'd like to believe I'm a high character human being, but there is something strange about 2 players (starting QB and starting FS) adding my as a friend on Facebook. I like these kids, but I think keeping home and work separated is a good idea. I also thought of deleting facebook all together, although I'd lose a lot of connections to some family members and college buddies. Thoughts? Thank you. I have several players friended. It's a great way to spy on them and see what they're doing and what they're thinking. Be careful what you post but you were going to do that anyway. Thanks Phantom, I read a lot of your posts and really respect your opinion so knowing you have players as friends speaks some volumes. Also, do you think I should get my Head Coaches opinion first? Or don't even bother him?
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Post by coachcompton on Sept 5, 2010 19:08:35 GMT -6
Us youngsters and the facebook. I've got one too and while I haven't been faced with this problem it has come to mind. Like you I don't put anything online that I wouldn't mind people seeing, but you def. have to keep those boundaries.
First thing I would suggest is upping all the privacy settings. There are things you can do to make yourself unable to be searched for...though it may prevent others you may want to connect with from finding you. You can remove all distinguishing information such as location, school, work, etc. Use a default picture that is something that isn't distinguishable (one of my friends uses the hulk as his default...then blocks strangers from looking at other pictures)...you can use an alias name...etc. Or you can just deny the kids friend request or delete it all together. Its kinda like how South Park says though...once you get one you kind of get sucked into it and its hard to just get rid of it.
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Post by phantom on Sept 5, 2010 19:32:47 GMT -6
I have several players friended. It's a great way to spy on them and see what they're doing and what they're thinking. Be careful what you post but you were going to do that anyway. Thanks Phantom, I read a lot of your posts and really respect your opinion so knowing you have players as friends speaks some volumes. Also, do you think I should get my Head Coaches opinion first? Or don't even bother him? This is Need To Know and he doesn't need to know. Thanks, BTW.
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Post by coachbeckham on Sept 5, 2010 19:33:44 GMT -6
I started a new account as "Coach Beckham Trinity" and it's for connections in the football world as well as my players. I've had a couple kids try and become my friend on my main account and my rule is not until they've graduated.
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Post by coachorr on Sept 5, 2010 20:11:11 GMT -6
Someone in Idaho is under investigation, because he friended some of his students and then one of his adult friends put pictures of said teacher playing beer pong at an adult party. Parents were upset that their kids saw pictures of the teacher playing beer pong with his shirt off on the Internet. It is a crazy world we live in.
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Post by airraider on Sept 5, 2010 20:31:02 GMT -6
live you life in the right way, and what do you have to worry about? Im just sayin.
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 5, 2010 20:34:12 GMT -6
i usually agree with phantom. In this case, I absolutely disagree. DO NOT have electronic communication with players. Period.
Now...if you have a "teampage"...that might be something different. But your personal page should in no way, shape, form mingle. WAY to risky. All it takes is one nutty parent... and there are plenty.
As coach orr mentioned, parents are upset that kids saw a picture of their teacher that HE didn't even put up. Keep in mind that parents like to complain, and in our world (education) they have so much more weight. The parents who are upset might spend their weekend snorting cocaine off of the backs of children who were sold as a part of underground human trafficking...but the school board will respect their opinion over that of a quality teacher who was hot one night at a legal party.
Also disagree about not telling the header. ESPECIALLY because you are a volunteer. Many districts may have a policy against such things... and you might not be aware.
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Post by tothehouse on Sept 5, 2010 20:58:12 GMT -6
Nobody...until they graduate. Just "ignored" another one tonight. Too much could happen...even if I rarely post anything and it's on the up and up.
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Post by fballcoachg on Sept 5, 2010 21:07:51 GMT -6
I graduated college in 07 when facebook was only around for a few years and was mainly college kids. We were explicitly told by the college's education department to get rid of our facebooks or myspaces and I did, I just don't think it is worth the risk. Now if I started a coaching page or team page then maybe it wouldn't be so bad (probably a good idea) but at the time I just didn't want anything to get in the way of me getting a job. Most schools STRONGLY caution against "friending" kids, just be very careful if you choose to add.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 5, 2010 21:12:52 GMT -6
Once they graduate, no problem. Not a minute before.
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Post by jg08mhs on Sept 5, 2010 21:42:31 GMT -6
I am also a volunteer coach in college. This topic has crossed my mind, and if any of my players friend request me, I will ignore it. I make an effort to keep my coaching life separate from my personal life and vice versa.
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Post by jjkuenzel on Sept 5, 2010 21:46:52 GMT -6
My personal rule is to never have a current player as my facebook friend. That included when I was coaching at the college level as well.
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Post by coachwood on Sept 5, 2010 21:47:38 GMT -6
Hi guys, quick question. I got hired, essentially as a volunteer coach, but I've been working my butt off full-time (like the rest of the coaching staff). I'm a young guy, still in college, and I have a Facebook. There is nothing incriminating, because I'd like to believe I'm a high character human being, but there is something strange about 2 players (starting QB and starting FS) adding my as a friend on Facebook. I like these kids, but I think keeping home and work separated is a good idea. I also thought of deleting facebook all together, although I'd lose a lot of connections to some family members and college buddies. Thoughts? Thank you. Never. This is the quickest way to get in trouble. If you want to get hired one day ... delete them tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2010 2:33:13 GMT -6
I started a new account as "Coach Beckham Trinity" and it's for connections in the football world as well as my players. I've had a couple kids try and become my friend on my main account and my rule is not until they've graduated. THIS! Coach Orr's story about the coach in Idaho is something that happens a lot. Someone snaps an embarrassing photo or writes something on your wall about something you do off the clock, a player (or his parent) sees it, and pretty soon you're in it deep. Or you just post some offhand comment on there and somebody takes it the wrong way, but you're already screwed. That stuff happens all the time. A "football only" facebook is good. It's what the kids are into these days and it makes keeping in touch (and spying) easier, plus there shouldn't be incriminating stuff popping up on your professional account.
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Post by groundchuck on Sept 6, 2010 3:32:52 GMT -6
I will not "friend" anyone currently in school. Once they graduate fine.
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Post by coachjd on Sept 6, 2010 6:05:51 GMT -6
I will echo the past few post. No one in the school building is friended. When they graduate then I will at least consider it.
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Post by noplaysoff on Sept 6, 2010 11:08:48 GMT -6
Thanks for the input everyone. I didn't 'accept' or 'ignore' anyone last night but I did change my 'privacy settings' to a very more controlled profile. I talked to the 2 kids who tried to friend me today and I basically told them the predicament they put me in, and it's not their fault and not to be offended. They understood what I was saying, so it seems to be all smooth.
Thanks again.
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Post by coachjd on Sept 6, 2010 11:50:37 GMT -6
good call coach.
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Post by endersgame on Sept 6, 2010 12:25:10 GMT -6
Next year I would talk to the team in your first meeting and say that as a coach you cannot accept friend requests from current players. Heck, you could even do it now. By doing that you should prevent some 98% of friend requests from your guys until after they've graduated.
Facebook is a great web site as long as you use it correctly. I got mine this past summer to keep in touch with high school friends... I will not be accepting friend requests from future players. I've learned that through other peoples' mistakes.
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Post by tog on Sept 6, 2010 14:58:37 GMT -6
only with former players
i explain to current players that i don't accept them for the legal reasons stated above
and my page is clean!
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Sept 7, 2010 21:27:00 GMT -6
I will and have never friended a player/student. The way I see it is this..... how would it look for a, in my case, 39 year old having a bunch of teenagers as friends on their profile? I think that it may make them look like a pedofile.....
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Post by coachmoore42 on Sept 7, 2010 22:07:29 GMT -6
Since I do middle school, I have some high school kids on mine. I wait until they are 18 though. On a side note, my wife coaches high school girls' basketball...and some of her girls tried to add me because she had added them. I barely even know them, so they got ignored. I said something to her about having them on there, and reminded her that my school told us not to add students/players. She said it would be okay...but she had deleted them from her account a day later.
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Post by fingerz42 on Sept 7, 2010 22:26:59 GMT -6
If they are in school and are students, they need to be ignored. We are not technically their "friend," we are supposed to be their mentors. Their is absolutely no reason to add them, and if you do, it just makes it look like you're trying to be a friend rather than that mentor. --No matter your intention, most other adults see it as inappropriate. Until the pkayers have graduated, and are now in most ways adults, you have to click the ignore button.
Also, make sure you up your privacy settings to "Friends Only." Otherwise anyone and their brother will be able to rifle through your entire page even without having befriended you.
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Post by goldenbear76 on Sept 8, 2010 3:00:46 GMT -6
OH MY GAWD..CoachJD you have a facebook? hahaha I might have a few beer drinking pics from college layin around haha. J/k.
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Post by pvogel on Sept 8, 2010 22:14:54 GMT -6
same. wait until they graduate the football program. When i become a teacher, it will be once they graduate period.
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Post by flingt on Sept 9, 2010 5:18:06 GMT -6
I've got a page, that I rarely use, to keep tabs on my two teenage kids. I've never had a request by a current player but I know I wouldn't accept them. I won't be a "friend" to my players until they've graduated. And I mean that in any context.
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Post by coachbeckham on Sept 10, 2010 0:08:39 GMT -6
I started a new account as "Coach Beckham Trinity" and it's for connections in the football world as well as my players. I've had a couple kids try and become my friend on my main account and my rule is not until they've graduated. THIS! Coach Orr's story about the coach in Idaho is something that happens a lot. Someone snaps an embarrassing photo or writes something on your wall about something you do off the clock, a player (or his parent) sees it, and pretty soon you're in it deep. Or you just post some offhand comment on there and somebody takes it the wrong way, but you're already screwed. That stuff happens all the time. A "football only" facebook is good. It's what the kids are into these days and it makes keeping in touch (and spying) easier, plus there shouldn't be incriminating stuff popping up on your professional account. Exactly. Because it is my professional account, I have no "friends" that aren't football aquaintances. Therefor only pictures I get are football pictures. I've had zero issues with this. It's a great way to keep players updated on off season things, or impromptu type practices/summer camps/ 7 on7 tourneys. I also never add the players myself... as said above, it's also a good way to keep tabs on certain players that you know to be (in a nice term) party boys.
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