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Post by dubber on Jan 3, 2008 0:34:19 GMT -6
yes, it is arguable
but we can agree that OU has more NFL quality players than WVU
right?
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Jan 3, 2008 0:41:04 GMT -6
I think that losing 4 of your players (starters) had some effect on Oklahoma, not making excuses, WV just dang outplayed Oklahoma, but has to have an effect on their mentality and prep for the game (Granger, Kelley, Holmes, and I forget the 4th player and Also not having Demarco Murray hurts some too.
Congrats to WV
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Post by coachcathey on Jan 3, 2008 7:27:11 GMT -6
For the comment that those two shouldn't be sitting together and sitting in order. This is from earlier in the year. The Schmidt kid is unbelievable. That size and has crazy speed as well. Should be a 3rd rounder in the NFL draft. Slaton should stay another year and White may be a WR or a DB (probably WR), more than likely a 5-7th rounder if not a FA.
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Post by wingt74 on Jan 3, 2008 7:27:50 GMT -6
Best comment of the bowl season so far: camera shows #93 BERRY (left) and #92 DINGLE (right) sitting next to each other. "They should not let those two sit together on the bench...or at least make them sit in that order!" THey have a third DLineman with the last name Dykes. That Dingle kid could play though. Also, that Schmidt kid...I remember a play earlier this year, for some reason, he was punting, and he shanked the kick bad. I watched him take his helmet off and beat himself in the head with it. Nobody on OU wanted to tackle him on his long TD run. He's going to be the next Mike Alstott
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Post by lochness on Jan 3, 2008 7:36:30 GMT -6
Schmitt would be a nice heir-apparent to Lorenzo Neil in San Diego. Lorenzo is one of my favorite players, but he's NOT getting any younger and FB is a very tough position to play (Captain Obvious checking in, loud and clear!). I think it would be awesome to see a FB get some attention in the draft. Unfortunately, they are a dying breed in this era of "basketball on grass" football. FB's are fun players to root for and watch. As much as I could care less about WV, I really enjoyed watching him rip off that big run and make some nice blocks.
LT needs that stud FB to make his offense work.
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Post by casec11 on Jan 3, 2008 9:57:20 GMT -6
I think Schmitt will be highly reguarded and coveted by most of the NFL teams. As for Slaton...I think he is gone to the draft, he will realize his "stock"(espn talk) in the draft will be on its way down because he will be loosing carries and playing time to Devine.
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Post by theprez98 on Jan 3, 2008 9:58:42 GMT -6
Bill Stewart is now the new head coach at WV.
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Post by kkennedy on Jan 3, 2008 10:40:08 GMT -6
Bill Stewart is now the new head coach at WV. After what we saw last night that is absolutely the right decision by WVU.
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Post by coachdawhip on Jan 3, 2008 10:53:54 GMT -6
WOW, I'm glad he got it, now I will be rooting for WVU, it proves the little man still has a chance and don't forget he comes very cheap as opposed to the last man
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Post by casec11 on Jan 3, 2008 11:02:50 GMT -6
That was the right move WV made
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Post by cmow5 on Jan 3, 2008 11:07:54 GMT -6
this is what it is supposed to look like when Owen punts
And this is what happens when he messes up
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Post by airraider on Jan 3, 2008 11:36:22 GMT -6
He could play QB for me.. haha
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Post by lackattack on Jan 3, 2008 11:43:11 GMT -6
Congrats to WVU.
They learned from the Pitt game.
You HAVE to play loose (but focused) in the big games. They played the Pitt game very TIGHT , kinda like they were expecting something bad to happen (like it has for them in the past)
Pitt did a great job on D so you can't take that away. Played base (nothing fancy) Made good reads, played disciplined and tackled well.
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Post by dubber on Jan 3, 2008 11:47:35 GMT -6
Was anybody else screaming at the television over how bad OU was holding WVU's DL?
I sure was.
About every play.
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Post by Coach Huey on Jan 3, 2008 11:52:41 GMT -6
Was anybody else screaming at the television over how bad OU was holding WVU's DL? I sure was. About every play. there we 2 specific ones i thought, "how in the heck did that NOT get called..." (and, then, immediately aftewards think, "um, i think that guy reffed OUR game" .... hahahaha)
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Post by Yash on Jan 3, 2008 12:13:32 GMT -6
OU was flat out overmatched up front on both sides of the ball. They had over 100 yards in penalties and could have been 200 yards if they would have called holding half of the time it occurred. Great story for the now head coach of WVU, gotta love that guys emotion before the game, he was jacked up.
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Post by gmccown on Jan 3, 2008 12:57:59 GMT -6
OU played horrible. I also find it very interesting that despite a huge line and amazing backfield they could not run the ball. It seems as thought they don't have a single counter or fb play in the arsenal, wherever the TB goes the play goes and it always goes to the deepest back. If in gun it always goes away from the RB unless he cuts back due to a pile up. How bout a little misdirection so those fast WVU Lbers can't just chase the TB?
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Post by joelee on Jan 3, 2008 15:26:59 GMT -6
I used to love Bob Stoops and his "NO Excuses" motto. Now it appears OU has underachieved since his 2nd year Championship. What happened?
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Post by phantom on Jan 3, 2008 17:21:38 GMT -6
I used to love Bob Stoops and his "NO Excuses" motto. Now it appears OU has underachieved since his 2nd year Championship. What happened? He lost his staff. His OC, Mangino, is in Kansas and his DC, Mike Stoops is, I forget where, remind me. Staff stability has a lot to do with long-term success.
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Post by beatdown on Jan 3, 2008 17:57:25 GMT -6
Mike Stoops is at Arizona. As a huge Sooner fan I can't put my finger on what the deal is with OU not winning it all since 2000. It usually seems like the issue is different things in different seasons, or in different big games. Honestly though OU's record since Stoops came on board has been great, even after his second season.
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Post by burtledog on Jan 3, 2008 18:44:11 GMT -6
Everyone complains, but remember Bo Schembechler was 0-fer a whole lot of Bowl games and never won a title at Michigan. Bowls are just different for coaches when preparation and motivation are involved. Greg
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Post by beatdown on Jan 3, 2008 18:48:41 GMT -6
I'm not complaining, I remember the state of the program prior to Stoops arriving...
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Post by Coach Huey on Jan 3, 2008 23:32:38 GMT -6
has anyone felt like the "big dogs" in these 'lesser' bowls are disappointed and have somewhat mailed it in? not making excuses for them, but it sure seems like those that thought they had a chance a title a month or so ago were just going through the motions in the bowl game.
could be they just got beat ... could be they were a little "pouty" about their situation. don't know, it just struck me last night as i watched OU .. then got to thinking about some of the other teams that "everyone" just knew would win.
Georgia, of course, still thinks they should share the title. but, for some other teams, did they truly give it their best effort or were they just playing out the string?
again, i'm not sayin' .... just sayin' ... know what i mean? lol
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Post by Yash on Jan 4, 2008 0:51:58 GMT -6
Well, USC definitely didn't mail it in. I think it has something to do with the quality of the opponents. I honestly didn't think that VT was a good offensive team all season and KU really played well tonight. Oklahoma vs WVU surprised me but you knew that WVU had that kind of offense when Pat White was healthy. So that offensive output wasn't unusual. OU on offense though looked dumbfounded for the first half and not great in the second half. Maybe these underdogs are just sick of the talking heads not giving them a chance and they go out there and really play their tails off. I don't know. 2 big dogs dominated, 2 others laid eggs. VTs defense didn't play bad, their QBs turned it over too much to win. Not sure what the cause of it is though.
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Post by spreadattack on Jan 4, 2008 8:26:18 GMT -6
has anyone felt like the "big dogs" in these 'lesser' bowls are disappointed and have somewhat mailed it in? not making excuses for them, but it sure seems like those that thought they had a chance a title a month or so ago were just going through the motions in the bowl game. I was thinking about this and I don't know if it is just the teams that were disappointed with not making the title game. I just definitely think this bowl season there were teams that were "up" and teams that were down. I mean Hawaii v. UGA was just a UH team that was a bit happy just to be there, was really jittery, and ran into an absolute buzzsaw of a UGA team that has been ripping people up for a couple months now. Illinois got dismantled too, USC looked awful sharp. But it's hard to say. Mizzou crushed Arkansas who was clearly pretty flat. From there the other bowl games have been decent, with Wisc-UT, TTech UVA, and FLA/UM as a great game. VT lost but I never had them as some great team. Which basically just leaves OU. And OU has been, well, OU. That team laid eggs against TTech and Colorado, but looked like an All-World team against everyone else. Which has been the story for a few years now. I mean, last year we knew Adrian Peterson was a good back, but think back about Adrian Peterson against Boise St now that we saw some of these NFL games where the guy just singlehandedly mauled people. Makes you wonder. So the only "theme" I see is that not every team in every bowl has been quite as ready to go as their opponent, leading to some kind of stinker bowl games and flat performances.
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