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Post by rbush on Feb 18, 2009 16:59:36 GMT -6
I have a meeting tomorrow after school with the head XC/Golf coach and our AD/head Track coach. The golf coach feels kids are being "steered" to track to benefit them for football. He doesn't believe it helps as we went 0-8 last year.
Last year was a tough year because of many factors. That obviously doesn't take away from track's value. Our AD is good about being fair to all sports so I don't think it'll be a big deal. Still, I'd like to find some articles on the benefits of track for football. I'll do some searching later tonight but have a three hour class. If anyone has any articles handy they'd be much appreciated. Thanks coaches.
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Post by stone65 on Feb 18, 2009 18:30:43 GMT -6
I don't have any articles, but it wouldn't be hard to argue that track helps football much more than golf.
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Post by cmpd on Feb 18, 2009 19:11:03 GMT -6
Just watch the NFL combine, you will hear some reference to track quite a few time when they are talking about a player, regarless of position. I do not think that is an accident
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 18, 2009 20:18:21 GMT -6
I coach both football and track (throwers) and I can think of no other sport besides wrestling that more than helps football players to train in the offseason.
Wrestling teaches leverage, tanacity, physical and mental toughness while increasing flexibility. Other than leverage track teaches these same aspects while increasing speed and explosiveness (especially the short sprints, jumps and throws).
While increasing these skills in lesser football players may not be as beneficial, to a better athlete it can mean the difference in winning season>playoffs>championships.
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Post by superpower on Feb 18, 2009 20:24:11 GMT -6
While college football recruiters always ask about 40 times, I have never heard one ask about a kid's handicap.
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Post by schultbear74 on Feb 18, 2009 20:33:21 GMT -6
IMO Track is beneficial to football if the track program is run properly. Many times the track program is run in a fashion that is not making the kids stronger. Track teams that don't lift hurt their football athletes by not permitting them to make the strength gains that are necessary to protect them from injury. Best track program that I was connected to was one in which football coaches ran track in such a way that they were both successful.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2009 20:35:12 GMT -6
We shouldn't really be dictators, though. If a kid truely wants to play golf, wants to play for the right reasons, has golf skills, then he should play golf. Obviously, track would help more in terms of football, but the kids shouldn't be led away from golf because of that.
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Post by coachcb on Feb 18, 2009 21:22:36 GMT -6
I agree with wolverine55 in this one; if the kid wants to golf, then there's no reason to push him otherwise.
But, I wouldn't stop recruiting football players for track, just because the golf coach has got his panties in a wad. I don't discourage kids from participating in other sports, but if they're undecided about their spring, I push them towards the track team.
Well coached track and field programs will help your kids develop speed and agility; it's basically an entire season of mandatory SAQ work. Couple that with a few days of weight training a week and you're kids can't help but improve. I have found that track coaches are generally ahead of the curve in the sports performance development department as well; they know their stuff. A good throws coach will really help out the kids explosiveness; throwing ,in and of itself, is just one kinetically linked plyometric exercise.
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Post by rbush on Feb 18, 2009 21:30:25 GMT -6
Thanks for the input coaches. I agree with Wolverine 100%. We have a couple of kids who have some talent that really enjoy golf. I have no problem with them golfing. If they're serious about golf that's where I want to see them. We're talking about the kids that want to golf because track's hard and they want to go for some nice strolls after school. The weight room will be open before school so all kids can lift. The track program actually uses a workout designed by the football program (It's set up to focus on speed and explosion and not bulk, btw).
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Post by Coach Huey on Feb 18, 2009 22:01:41 GMT -6
does it help? ask 100 guys and probably get 101 different answers ... lol ask anyone "does it hurt?" ... um ... what do you think? if nothing else ... they ain't going home after school ... ;D
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Post by cmpd on Feb 20, 2009 11:56:22 GMT -6
Don't laugh too much, but tennis is also good. lateral movement, stance, hand/eye coordination and quickness
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Post by calicoachh on Feb 20, 2009 13:21:21 GMT -6
i encourage our players to play a spring sport. if they are good enough at golf to make the gaolf team then do it, the mental focus will help them be a better football player. if they can make the baseball team or the volleyballor the tennis team then do it. if they don't make one of those teams, we don't cut on the track team
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Post by indian1 on Feb 20, 2009 13:27:49 GMT -6
I'd tell that golf coach that its not his place to evaluate YOUR program or team. He doesn't get to decide what helps your team or program. If you think that track helps your players and you encourage your guys to run track, thats your business. He can encourage his golfers to do whatever he wants them to.
Throwing that 0-8 thing in there would royally pi$$ me off.
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Post by k on Feb 20, 2009 14:57:56 GMT -6
Only a couple of our starters are not multi sport athletes. Lots of them do Football/Basketball or Indoor Track/Baseball or Outdoor Track.
Track Practice for throwers is just hitting the weights anyway. They throw when it is nice out and for like 15 minutes. Rest of the time they are lifting or running. Not much different for sprinters....
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Post by coachinghopeful on Feb 20, 2009 15:50:43 GMT -6
Don't laugh too much, but tennis is also good. lateral movement, stance, hand/eye coordination and quickness A friend of mine in college told me his HS football coaches actually steered the linemen to play tennis in the spring (they had no wrestling team). His school's tennis teams kinda sucked, but they were always pretty good up front in the fall They also made it a point to have the linemen lift year round regardless of other sports. At my HS, where we also had no wrestling team, it was track or baseball for the football players in the spring. But then, both were coached by football assistants.
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