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Post by windigo on Jan 7, 2009 14:42:42 GMT -6
Oh I love how you point out that Weber St. Is D1-AA and don’t mention that Chatanooga and the Citidel are too. The difference is Weber St. is actually is a winning team.
Strength of schedule is also biased for the BCS conferences. The MWC is easily the 3rd best conference in the nation yet their best team rates only #86 ins strength of schedule despite having to play in a very trough conference. Strength of schedule is one of the most bogus statistics in the game right now. Playing Iowa State will help a Big 12 teams strength of schedule while playing Wyoming will hurt it because of the way the system is designed. Its not only your opponents but your opponents opponents. Play a {censored} Big 12 team get a bump play a shity mount west team get hurt. But there is really no difference between the two. They both suck. Hell reputable statisticians have urged their fellow statisticians to have nothing to do with the BCS and college football rankings because they are such blight on the profession.
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Post by cqmiller on Jan 9, 2009 11:16:50 GMT -6
So now we are hammering Utah for playing an In-State Rival that is a D2 school... Last I checked Weber State put Cal Poly out of the D2 playoffs and was the only team to beat Montana this year! Florida played Citadel for crying out loud!
All the SEC schools play cream-puff out of conference schedules... that is why they all have winning records which makes their "strength of schedule" look better than other schools. They all play 8 or 9 home games because they bring in D2 or low-level D1 schools for the "payday games".
I think that it was basically better the way it was before the BCS... No playoff. Just do the traditional bowls and combine the AP & Coaches polls at the end of the year and declare a National Champ.
Too much focus on the negatives of college football these days! College football is way better than NFL because it isn't the same... Everyone keeps trying to turn it into the same game as the NFL...
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Post by coachnichols on Jan 9, 2009 11:26:33 GMT -6
Someone said it...Utah has a legitimate claim but so does USC and Texas.
I'm not a "PLAYOFF, PLAYOFF, PLAYOFF! WE MUST HAVE A PLAYOFF" guy, but it is the only correct way to do this. Every other level has it and so should the highest level. I know people love bowls and so do I, however there should be a playoff. I am so sick of listening to media people say "it makes college football special" or "it makes the regular season more meaningful"...blah, blah, blah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sick of hearing that.
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Post by lionhart on Jan 9, 2009 23:02:24 GMT -6
florida beat the citadel 70-19. utah beat weber state by 16 pts. which woudl you say was a more decisive victory vs a d1-aa team? agin, utah beat a 3 win michgan team by the skin of their teeth, and barely beat air force. florida had the highest margin of victory of any team in SEC history...... they beat LSu by 30, south carolina by 50, vanderbilt by 28, miami by 23 and fsu by 30. do you honestly believe utah would have posted similar results in a full SEC schedule? what do you think would happen if florida played utah state, san diego state and colorado state? what would be your prediction if florida played a full mwc schedule?
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Post by touchdowng on Jan 10, 2009 13:08:48 GMT -6
Actually I could care less who wins the NC until there's a real playoff system.
Here's what Rick Reilly thinks - Very humorous read........
Life of Reilly
Oklahoma and Florida can battle for the BCS. But we've already crowned the true national champ.
by Rick Reilly
Some gifts people give are pointless: Styling mousse to Dick Vitale. An all-you-can-eat card to Kate Moss. The BCS Championship given to Oklahoma or Florida.
It means nothing because the BCS has no credibility. Florida? Oklahoma? Who cares? Utah is the national champion.
The End. Roll credits.
Argue with this, please. I beg you. Find me anybody else that went undefeated. Thirteen-and-zero. Beat four ranked teams. Went to the Deep South and seal-clubbed Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. The same Alabama that was ranked No. 1 for five weeks. The same Alabama that went undefeated in the regular season. The same Alabama that Florida beat in order to get INTO the BCS Championship game in the first place.
Yeah, that's how it is now in the shameful, money-grubbing world of college football. If you're Florida and you beat Alabama, you get a seat in the title game. If you're Utah, you get a seat on your sofa.
Hey, remind me: What do they give out for one of those BCS things anyway? It's been so long since I cared. Something from Sears? This is the sixth year in the past 10 that the title has been in dispute under this cash-grab, fan-dis, monopoly that the BCS has created. Which is why the title game just doesn't matter anymore. It's like being named Miss Ogallala. Or Best Amish Electrician.
Just take a look at the teams that think they're worthy of being called national champs:
USC? Great year. Wonderful. Let's all go to SkyBar and celebrate. But it lost to Oregon State, a team Utah beat.
Texas? You think beating Ohio State by a nubby three points gets you the title? The Big Ten was 1-6 in bowl games! That's like pinning David Spade!
Florida and Oklahoma? They lost. Utah never did.
So that's it. Utah is the national champion. The Utes should probably have two now, actually. They went undefeated in 2004, too, and their coach still thinks they were the best team in the land. Smart fella named Urban Meyer. Coaches Florida now.
By the way, we're calling our title the "national" championship because it actually includes the whole nation—all 119 Division I schools—unlike the BCS, which includes 66. Yeah, the BCS somehow eliminated the middleman—the NCAA. The conferences these schools play in take their dump trucks full of cash straight from the TV networks and fairness can go suck a lemon. [Image] The Utes won't get the trophy they really deserve, so we gave them one of our own design.
Do me a favor. Call Ohio State president Gordon Gee and ask him why he won't support a playoff. He's one of the most powerful presidents in the NCAA. He could get it done. If he says anything other than, "We don't want to share the loot" then you know he's lying his bow tie off.
"This is not how we normally do things in America," says Utah president Michael Young. "In America, quality usually wins, not conspiracy. And there's a reason people usually enter into a conspiracy. It's money. You make money doing it. And those that are in on the conspiracy want to stay in and keep everybody else out."
Sure, BCS blowhards will hand you schlock about how the college football season is like a playoff, how it's an elimination tournament every week. Really? Well, how come Florida and Oklahoma weren't eliminated with their losses? Utah ran the table, beat everybody set in front of them, including Ala-damn-bama in no less than the Sugar Bowl, and gets the bagel.
Oh, by the way? It was Utah's eighth straight bowl win, the nation's longest streak. Among the losers during that run? Let's see USC, Georgia Tech, Pittsburgh, and now the legendary Houndstooth Hats.
"What else do we have to prove?" asks Utah's magical quarterback, Brian Johnson. Good question. He and the Utes essentially whipped Alabama at home. Handed Nick Saban a garlic necklace to wear the entire offseason. Stepped on his team's neck 21-0 in the first three possessions and never looked back. Let's see. Who was it that was losing to Alabama until nearly six minutes into the fourth quarter? Oh, yeah. Florida.
What, you want the Utes to win a spelling bee? Make a prize-winning souffle? Knock up Angelina Jolie? What?
It just slays me. It really does.
Call Myles Brand, president of the asleep-at-the-wheel NCAA, and ask him if he and his greedy presidents are going to stand in defiance of president-elect Barack Obama, who said again this week he wants a playoff and wants it yesterday.
Call Atlantic Coast Conference commissioner and BCS bully John Swofford and ask him what he's going to do if Obama starts asking the Justice Department to look into anti-trust violations against the BCS. The Utah attorney general has already launched an investigation into that very thing.
Ask him what he'll do if Obama asks the Department of Education to consider withholding federal funds from these schools that have entered into his secret club. You don't think playing in the title game means millions in general-fund donations for a school? That's as unfair as anything Title IX fought against.
Until all these people do the right thing, I'll be celebrating with the true national champions — the undefeated, untied Utah Utes. (Our new slogan: Utahk about a team!)
Lemonades for everybody!
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