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Post by FlexboneOne on Dec 11, 2008 9:07:13 GMT -6
I am going to attend tonight. I guess at that time they tell you the price and such. I am wondering fi they have a payment plan. I'm going to be on tonight as well. I sure hope that this thing is truly affordable. He said it's half the cost of scouting programs...isn't DSV like 6G's?
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Post by pantherpride91 on Dec 11, 2008 10:19:33 GMT -6
Can you design IV and Midline series or is the Read option the only one?
-This program does look great....Our kids would eat this up
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Dec 11, 2008 10:32:43 GMT -6
Next to Kate Hudson in a "wife-beater" shirt, I have never seen anything as beautiful as this!! ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY
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Post by jtobs on Dec 11, 2008 10:35:46 GMT -6
Does it have the capability to do Canadian football? 12 players on the field, wider longer field? Looks like a great product.
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Post by morris on Dec 11, 2008 10:56:22 GMT -6
He does say in one of the little previews you can teach IV with it. For those that have done the webinar did you have a headset? I am trying to figureout if I should go pick up a cheap one today, use my cell phone or what.
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Post by dsqa on Dec 11, 2008 11:46:10 GMT -6
Coach you just need a phone and connection to the web. The e-mail confirmation you receive, should have all the details there for you. We use the phone for communicating because it is clearer.
Look forward to talking with you later.
Coach Slack
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Post by coachh on Dec 11, 2008 12:24:23 GMT -6
I was on the webinar yesterday, brought it to my players attention today and they all loved it. It would be a tremendous teaching tool that the kids would love to do. For them to learn from their own position and not just the QB's is a great asset.
The ability to teach / and have them practice the game plan while they are at home is the best.
Now I just have to get my AD on board to help pay for it.
Do the webinar, Coach Slack does an awesome job explaining the program and will answer any questions that you have.
I highly recommend this product, I hope Santa brings me one!! Either that or I will have to give less presents to my family!!
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Post by coachcastleman on Dec 11, 2008 13:40:18 GMT -6
So why is the price such a secret? Why can't we just find out how much it cost?
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Post by sbv on Dec 11, 2008 14:08:01 GMT -6
They probably don't want to scare anyone away. They want to entice you so that you do not blow it off thinking "I can't afford this". I saw one of these at the Tulsa Glazier Clinic and I think the price was about $2,500. Does anyone know how many computers you can put this on (how many licenses)?
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Post by vassdiddy on Dec 11, 2008 14:24:34 GMT -6
Awesome Darin! This is really cool looking! I have one question though... how do you monitor your QB's progress? I know these software programs came out years ago and everyone rushed to get them (I know Dennis Erickson started using this). The problem was the QBs did alot of work on their own and the coaches had no way to monitor the QB's progress. What ended up happening was that these QB's practiced their reads but because they couldn't be "coached," they were practicing their reads incorrectly which became worse than not practicing them at all!
I am excited to see what Darin has created because I know he has all the bases covered! For those of you that haven't seen his stuff, it's great!
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Post by spodieodie on Dec 11, 2008 19:40:38 GMT -6
Vass, The program you are referring to was the original version of Gameplanner 5 years ago.
We have spent the last year and a half revamping that original program. One of the many new features is a the TEST mode that allows a coach to create however many play scenerios he would like. The coach has the ability to ask multiple choice questions, select key players, or test progressions on every play, and export it on his computer or email to his player at home.
Once the test has been taken the program sends a GTR file that has every play scenerio along with the results that you player chose for each scenerio. It also gives the amount of time it took him to answer the question along with what answer or progression he showed. You as a coach get instant feedback immediately after the test has been taken.
Not only can you test the QB but any position on the field. Want to test to see if the WR knows where to line up and what route to run....no problem. He simply logs in and must control where he lines up and must control the route. If he is 1 yard inside or outside the proper route stem he will fail and the test results will reflect that. You can test any position on the field!
Imagine as a coach being able to email a test of 5 -10 or however many plays you are going to run that week to your players, have them take the test at their home computer just like playing Madden, and getting their results emailed back to you immediately after they are done. Would that help you as a coach to see if they are absorbing your gameplan for the week. Would that make you sleep better at night or make you more confident to call that big play? I know it helped us.
As for Dennis Erickson and ASU's dilemma this is not anywhere close to the same program. I can't speak for them and I am curious to how you know that this was a problem that they originally had? Do you know someone on staff that actually used the original program 5 years ago?
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Post by morris on Dec 11, 2008 19:50:17 GMT -6
I have to say it is very impressive. If your program can take advantage of it then it will have to make a difference. While the QB stuff is nice but being able to have your OL see through their own eyes what it is going to look like to them is big. I kept thinking how much easier it would be to teach the screen game this way or explain things to the WR by allowing them to truely see the holes and seams.
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Post by vassdiddy on Dec 11, 2008 20:57:49 GMT -6
As for Dennis Erickson and ASU's dilemma this is not anywhere close to the same program. I can't speak for them and I am curious to how you know that this was a problem that they originally had? Do you know someone on staff that actually used the original program 5 years ago? No, I just have talked to some college video coordinators about the program and I know he was one of the coaches who was all excited about (or so I was told). He said that coaches had no way to monitor their player's progress so they could actually be learning the wrong things and reinforcing them.
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Dec 11, 2008 21:32:36 GMT -6
Spodieodie, Don't feel bad, Vass knows EVERYBODY, it's kinda' scary really! Vass, what the %&*# is going on out there! your friend Vince L.
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Post by dsqa on Dec 11, 2008 22:06:41 GMT -6
We rectified that issue first with the Zone software program that allows the coach to receive detailed and timed results of every test taken. It is the most advanced network for connecting athletes and coaches with 3D training ever created, and it is all custom. The coach will see exactly what the athlete chose, did, called, etc. and how long it took, etc.
Also, before, there was only one player, the quarterback, who could be tested with no results. Now, we can test every player, at every position, simultaneously, with detailed timed results in the office locally, or from home. The athlete can practice and get immediate feedback about whether he did it right or not, with specific expectations clearly spelled out, and after each question, the athlete and review what he did right and wrong.
Like most software, given time, and the right input, the process is always improving. We have taken this program well beyond anything that has ever been considered possible at the high school level - just because of costs. Like many of the things we have done, we continue to seek how we can stay on the cutting edge of offering the best, most affordable, resources we can to bring competitive advantage to the coach and athlete.
You are hearing coaches on this board say this very thing, even after they have seen and heard the webinar. That should assure you that things are as advertised.
Coaches, there is no attempt to sustain any secrets about anything. We have been on this board since the day it opened, and I haven't tried to "entice" anyone, besides, we really aren't supposed to.
But, if you want to hear it straight, I have been selling my backside off on this board, trying to get every coach who would listen, to buy into what we are doing, but I try to do it as respectfully as I can.
The most difficult part of all that effort, is that for every one that sees the value and benefits, there are dozens of others who aren't as convinced, and they turn to what they know and think we are just like all the others who claim and can't deliver.
I would imagine that the bulk of what has been passed off in the name of the "newest thing" and "expertise" has left most of us wanting to puke, thus making it even more challenging to offer a strong perspective with authority on just about anything without causing questions.
Packages for the Gameplanner begin around 3K, with the opportunity to secure additional licenses, and a full program testing battery for up to 100 athletes with the Zone software in other offerings. Full installation of your playbook, roster, and tutorials assistance is included at different levels as well.
Bottom line, we are busting ours to serve you with every possible sales, selling, promotional, advertising, marketing effort we can to get every coach to realize that we aren't kidding when we say that every program needs what we are offering.
Hope that clears some things up for you and others who might be wondering.
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Post by spodieodie on Dec 11, 2008 22:26:58 GMT -6
OUtlaw, dont worry...I know Vass as well. I was just giving him a hard time because he thinks he know everybody and everything
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Post by dsqa on Dec 11, 2008 22:45:52 GMT -6
For the record, this product was originally designed to be used at the higher levels with broader goals and was thus not as directionally focused in terms of ease of use and workflow. That has all changed.
One coach has already told me that his pursuit of one company for a product just like this got him a quote of over 100,000 dollars. They told him that to get him off the phone, he said.
We won't do that, just ask the guys who have already called.
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Post by sbv on Dec 12, 2008 9:05:18 GMT -6
Coach Slack, When I used the word "entice" I didn't mean that it was a bad thing. Telling us what this program can do is enticing whether it was planned or not. I am planning on attending a webinar and hitting up some boosters to see what we can get done. Are there payment plans available and pay half each of it in two years? Thanks coach.
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Post by otowncoach on Dec 12, 2008 9:38:24 GMT -6
I was the coach who received a quote of $100,000 for a similar software that was marketed to DI schools.
We did the webinar with Coach Slack the other day and it blew away our expectations. We are talking about all kinds of possibilities of how to incorporate the software with our game planning and preparation - not to mention the fact that it will be a HUGE recruiting tool to get kids out for football. We hope to show it at the Junior High schools to get kids excited about coming out for football when they get up here.
I would definitely encourage everyone to check it out. I was fully expecting the price to be 2-3X the price it is!
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Post by dsqa on Dec 15, 2008 23:03:39 GMT -6
Sorry for th delay in getting back, was in LV for a camp.
no worries sbv, I just needed to make sure we clarified that. We're good.
Thanks otowncoach, we believe this program will help a great many coaches, and now you know we made it affordable.
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Post by waltflanagansdog on Dec 16, 2008 18:02:58 GMT -6
You can get $450 off for attending a webinar. I assume it's pretty expensive with a discount like that. Want to attend a webinar, but can't attend on the times listed.
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Post by dsqa on Dec 16, 2008 21:39:57 GMT -6
The price was mentioned above in one of my posts. I would encourage you to check it out.
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Post by dhooper on Dec 17, 2008 8:50:13 GMT -6
dsqb Coach I have all your videos and enjoyed them. I pick up the newest ones in AZ at your clinic. By the way my QB relay did well. Broke all the school records and help take us to the playoffs which hadn't been done for sevens years. I will see you again this year.
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Post by dsqa on Dec 17, 2008 9:08:28 GMT -6
Coach, that is an amazing story, congratulations! Thanks so much for sharing that with me, I am glad you found us helpful. I do look forward to seeing you again real soon.
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Post by waltflanagansdog on Dec 17, 2008 13:01:09 GMT -6
Are there going to be more webinar's other than the one's listed?
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Post by taufb on Dec 17, 2008 14:58:18 GMT -6
I am in the same boat with the times. DSQA - Will there be others? Am very interested but can't get on line at those times.
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Post by dsqa on Dec 18, 2008 17:24:47 GMT -6
There can be. Please e-mail me and we will workout some time that can work for you. I don't want anyone to miss out.
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