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Post by ttowntiger on Nov 23, 2008 14:10:31 GMT -6
OU ran the Air Raid from 199-2001. I have film to back this fact up. They started moving away from it around 2002.
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Post by Yash on Nov 23, 2008 14:32:08 GMT -6
OU ran the Air Raid from 199-2001. I have film to back this fact up. They started moving away from it around 2002. I don't think anyone is disagreeing this this...
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Post by airman on Nov 23, 2008 14:42:43 GMT -6
when mangino left to go to KU Stoops moved away from the air raid offense. He hired Kevin Wilson who was the oc at Northwestern to install a more power run game from the shot gun.
They have since moved to more of a traditional offense.
I think one just has to tip their hats to OU. They came out and did a great job against texas tech. They played great on both sides of the ball. I think the two weeks helped OU and hurt TT.
When you are hot you want to stay on a roll. give a good coach time and he will find away to stop any offense/defense.
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Post by ttowntiger on Nov 23, 2008 14:43:17 GMT -6
1999-2001, that is.
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Nov 23, 2008 15:04:32 GMT -6
A few years ago, Alabama either won, or almost won a bowl game against T.T. when we all thought it would be a blowout. As Alabama's DB's had the ability to stay-up with T.T.'s wide outs.
Why is it that Texas couldn't do this but Oklahoma could?
I thought that T.T.'s protection was fine, knowing a little about the offense-maybe just enough to be dangerous, I felt that OK was able to force the QB deep into their progression with coverage.
Experts I'm sure, can correct me.
But the big difference seemed to be people. Oklahoma had better people on offense than T.T. had on defense.
OK (fondly known as Chok-lahoma) will find a way to lose later this year in the bowl season.
"Bear" Bryant said or is credited with saying "big fast people are better then little fast people." It showed last night.
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Post by k on Nov 23, 2008 15:11:39 GMT -6
That argument would have held 5 years ago... TT is not the little sister of the poor anymore... they have ball players. Couldn't disagree more. Only Crabtree would be starting for OU. Not making excuses for TT. Personally I hope every team from TX/OK lose every game possible. I am not a TT fan by any stretch of the imagination...
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Post by DLine06 on Nov 23, 2008 15:55:55 GMT -6
I wondered what the game would of been like if the Oklahoma coaching staff did not have that extra week to prepare for Tech?
And I ask you coaches' your opinions on the basis that the OU defense read Tech's screens very well, played fast and that Brent Venables did a great job with his blitz packages?
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Post by k on Nov 23, 2008 16:56:07 GMT -6
The "he wouldn't start on such and such team", doesn't hold water... accept for the academies... and who knows... with a little luck, kid might get a Hassleback shot. "It doesn't hold water unless I say it holds water." It is fact when you talk about the academies and it is fact when you compare OK and TT. With just one obvious exception the entire TT team would be relegated to scout team and special teams on OK. I don't see how you can really argue that. Yes I understand that parity is coming to NCAA football and that slowly we are seeing a leveling of the playing field... That said Crabtree might be the only starter for TT who would start on OK...
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Post by k on Nov 23, 2008 16:58:24 GMT -6
And I ask you coaches' your opinions on the basis that the OU defense read Tech's screens very well, played fast and that Brent Venables did a great job with his blitz packages? Absolutely. And that OK's line just out played TT's DL. Oh and DeMarco Murray is a beast.
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Post by k on Nov 23, 2008 18:03:05 GMT -6
Hill Larry... So let me make sure I understand you correctly... TT lost to OU, because they were out recruited and TT is basically OU's scout team? However, TT beat Texas, with OU's scout team, because of scheme and execution... nothing to do with talent? Wow... talk about having it both ways. It is pretty simple: TT has one player who would be a starter on Texas or OU. I'm sorry you disagree with that statement. I don't see things in black and white I'm not saying TT lost to OU 100% because of the fact that TT only has one player that would start for OU. I just can't believe anyone would sit here and pretend that it didn't factor in...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2008 18:52:41 GMT -6
I'm not going to say Oklahoma doesn't have more physical talent than Texas Tech and I didn't see the game last night. But I have seen both teams play a few times. It may be the case, but I find it very hard to believe that out of TTs 22 starters, only one would start anywhere for Oklahoma.
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Post by towtheline on Nov 23, 2008 21:11:36 GMT -6
I don't think people are looking at the results of this game, and are saying "see, I knew the air raid wouldn't work". What I DO think might happen is that some coaches (you know who I am talking about) might enjoy a bit of a reality check. The coaches who last year thought "wow, all i need to do is install the Run and Shoot, and I will just win all sorts of games" up until the Sugar Bowl. The coaches who this year thought "Oh, all I need to do is run 'the air raid' offense and I will never be stopped" up until last night. Ultimately, because of the very rules of the game, this fundamental principle of football will always be true : " The EASIEST way to win a football game is to physically dominate your opponent on the lines of scrimmage by running the football" NOTE--this does NOT mean that it is an easy task or that it is the only way. Just that it is the easiest and most common way. TT scored 21 pts... that should be enough to win a game. Actually TT only scored 7 points when the game was somewhat competitive The other 14 came when OU already had 52 points The offense did nothing when it mattered
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Post by dubber on Nov 23, 2008 22:40:17 GMT -6
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Post by k on Nov 23, 2008 22:57:10 GMT -6
And that's the problem... I'm not pretending, and for you to discount the players on TT so cavalierly, is utterly ridiculous to me. Naw you're making stuff up and blind to the difference in talent levels. "Everyone thinking they would beat OK" Odd cause most people picked OK it seemed to me. Maybe you should explain how all kinds of TT players would start for OU. Because I see only one who is a definite and a couple who are maybes. Show me where I mentioned recruiting class. If you can't than shut up about it. Show me a non scholarship player who is a starter for OU. If you can't than shut up. Are you saying that OU has the fourth best players in the country on the field every week? Because if you're talking about "recruiting class" again you're being dishonest by trying to put words into my mouth. I don't really care what you take exception to. Simple fact is that TT has at best a couple of players who might start for OU but probably only one. The talent level difference is a large part of the reason that OU beat TT. Trying to pretend it isn't holds no water. =)
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Post by tog on Nov 23, 2008 23:48:23 GMT -6
ok
enough
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