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Post by coachmathis on Apr 18, 2008 10:07:08 GMT -6
Coaches who use the wing-t system, do you use the blocking rules exactly from the original wing-t or do you create your own?
Our head coach pretty much created his own blocking rules for the wing-t. I have a tom herman tape and I like what he uses but when I tried to use it with my team(whose players had run the system before using blocking rules made up by the coach) they said that they preferred the old rules because they were less complicated. That season ended up being canceled so I haven't had an opportunity to actually be an offenseive coordinator yet so I want to figure this out before the opportunity comes.
In your experience,what has been the easiest?
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Post by Coach Bruce on Apr 18, 2008 10:16:48 GMT -6
Coach Seays Youth WingT is VERY simple and effective. The blocking is easy to teach and learn...and he helps you immensely.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Apr 18, 2008 10:24:20 GMT -6
It depends on how old the blocking rules are.
The older rules were designed to battle a non-stunting defensive front. I believe this is why the 30 series came into being- to confront the stunting/blitzing of modernized football.
I believe that you should start with the tried and true rules of old-school wing-t, and manipulate them to work for you.
If you see nothing but 3-3 stacks stunting all day, it may be hard to run belly using the traditional rules. Maybe a zone approach may be best here...
Our traditional bucksweep got destroyed by stunting 3-3 stack teams this year. Do we give up on buck or do we adjust the rules? You better believe we'll be adjusting those rules...
Can you give an example of your HC's rules so that we can compare them to traditional rules?
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Post by Coach JR on Apr 18, 2008 11:23:41 GMT -6
Isn't one of the staples of the Wing T the simplicity of the blocking system; the fact that the blocking system almost always put the blocker with the angle advantage on his man, or at worst head up, and rarely if ever asks the blocker to reach block?
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Apr 18, 2008 12:35:35 GMT -6
Isn't one of the staples of the Wing T the simplicity of the blocking system; the fact that the blocking system almost always put the blocker with the angle advantage on his man, or at worst head up, and rarely if ever asks the blocker to reach block? I believe so- but with the more modern defenses, the original rules may need adjustment. Staples of Wing T are the down block/kickout/lead through at the hole... |
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Post by ramsoc on Apr 18, 2008 20:39:57 GMT -6
You can't beat what Tubby and Dave Nelson came up with years ago.
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Post by khalfie on Apr 18, 2008 22:03:44 GMT -6
Never change the rules!
Do as you are told... and like it!
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Post by nydc on Apr 19, 2008 5:49:58 GMT -6
Our base blocking rules:
Buck Sweep
Belly
Down
All the plays we run are based off these schemes.
Our guys only have to learn 3 basic blocking schemes.
Get a hold of Tom Herman.
He is the best!
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Post by silkyice on Apr 19, 2008 11:22:21 GMT -6
Our base blocking rules: Buck Sweep Belly Down All the plays we run are based off these schemes. Our guys only have to learn 3 basic blocking schemes. Get a hold of Tom Herman. He is the best! What about trap? Is it down rules? |
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Post by ramsoc on Apr 19, 2008 11:24:37 GMT -6
Our base blocking rules: Buck Sweep Belly Down All the plays we run are based off these schemes. Our guys only have to learn 3 basic blocking schemes. Get a hold of Tom Herman. He is the best! What about trap and counter and power? |
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Post by Bulldogs2006 on Apr 19, 2008 15:59:12 GMT -6
I used the Delaware blocking system for years and added things from Coach Herman, Willinbrock, and Creehan. They are all very similar. The best blocking system that I have used and continue to use is Herschel Moore's blocking system. It is simple and handles just about any situation you might encounter. It is not the best block for all fronts but beats no block at all. Herschel has a site you can purchase his blocking system on tape and in hardback. www.wingtandmoore.com |
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Post by coachmathis on Apr 19, 2008 21:24:35 GMT -6
He basically in his words "only blocked one side of the line" and zoned the other half. On our level we basically see 3 techniques and 1 techniques and stunting is pretty much does not happen. Most teams on this level don't blitz.Our playbook wasn't loaded with wing-t plays. We pretty much were succesful using only the buck series and belly and belly pass.
Blocking rules for belly: LG and LT- If DT in a 3 technique, g block.If he is in a one technique, block straight up. Everyone else would "step down and chase"
I think they were having problems with the words. For example, his blocking rule may be: first man inside of you, which would translate to gap,down, on backer,...not in that particular order. My kids thought the first part was easier but I prefer to use the system calls that tom herman uses.
Another question, do any of you guys use the wing-t line calls that herman talks about?
Thanks for the information. I have only been coaching for 4 years and I have only been sinking my teeth into the wing-t for two with one season being cut short because of a lack of players.
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