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Post by 4verts on Feb 26, 2015 19:57:22 GMT -6
You have to scan your eye to get into the hallway of the Auburn coaching staff in their building. I can certainly see them not liking their film online. Think you would be paranoid if millions were at stake for you?
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Post by 4verts on Jan 3, 2015 12:02:51 GMT -6
I'll be there
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Post by 4verts on Jul 25, 2014 20:41:51 GMT -6
What does he play and will he be a qualifier?
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Post by 4verts on Jul 3, 2014 23:34:53 GMT -6
No meaning that I knew of. Just where the OC started the redzone. Errybody has to be different come clinic season you know. Just a guess, but it could be where field goal range started for the place kicker. Not really. Our FG kicker was good from 53. It had to do with the timing of an outside vertical -5 from the backline. It was the start of field compression.
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Post by 4verts on Jul 3, 2014 19:57:59 GMT -6
Last place I was at was extremely detailed with scripting with both practice, openers, tempo scripts, and any other situation that could arise. Had a lot to do with resources. We ran a 2 QB system and the starter had a 10 play opener script, which we got off of for 3rd downs or redzone/short yardage then resumed. The 2nd guy had a 5 play script of openers as well. We also treated the +22 going in as its own drive once we got there and had a 3 play script for that. Different strokes for different folks. I couldn't imagine having periods unscripted though. Brings thoughts of chaos to mind. 4vertsWhy the +22? No meaning that I knew of. Just where the OC started the redzone. Errybody has to be different come clinic season you know.
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Post by 4verts on Jul 3, 2014 19:30:08 GMT -6
Last place I was at was extremely detailed with scripting with both practice, openers, tempo scripts, and any other situation that could arise. Had a lot to do with resources. We ran a 2 QB system and the starter had a 10 play opener script, which we got off of for 3rd downs or redzone/short yardage then resumed. The 2nd guy had a 5 play script of openers as well. We also treated the +22 going in as its own drive once we got there and had a 3 play script for that. Different strokes for different folks. I couldn't imagine having periods unscripted though. Brings thoughts of chaos to mind.
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Post by 4verts on Apr 27, 2014 8:41:55 GMT -6
We play music, but I could care less if we did or not. Kids like so why not. I'm not trying to be John Lithgow in Footloose.
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Post by 4verts on Apr 26, 2014 17:47:13 GMT -6
We charted knock down blocks and yards after contact and run after catch on offense, as well as, explosives. Not because we wanted to reward these plays, but make sure we were getting them.
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Post by 4verts on Apr 23, 2014 23:10:49 GMT -6
Somebody in charge of this situation is a pu$$y. Basically what it boils down to is not making somebody mad. Retreats and social functions aren't worth it. I find somebody on staff that likes drinking beer as much as me, then we hang out. If they don't like Hooters then we probably won't be seeing each other outside the office very much. I get paid to be a football coach and everything that goes with it. Nobody pays me to make sure somebody else gets paid. I feel your pain on that.
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Post by 4verts on Apr 23, 2014 20:54:30 GMT -6
I don't understand the problem. What else am I suppose to care about?
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Post by 4verts on Apr 2, 2014 7:26:51 GMT -6
just to get it right. the CAI is team-customized for every customer? They don't have a HS product. For every D1 or 1AA it is customized to every squad.
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Post by 4verts on Apr 1, 2014 16:18:18 GMT -6
"The benefits of working with CAI are substantial. With the CAI Game Book, teams will never take a timeout to debate a decision. Coordinators can plan ahead, knowing what the decision will be for every scenario. Most importantly, teams will gain a substantial strategic advantage by making decisions that optimize a team’s chance of winning." Well thank goodness we can have all that information to make our decisions for us. Oh did I fail to mention that we had a kicker who could barely clear the cross bar on exp's last season? Does that factor into the analysis at all? Yes
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Post by 4verts on Mar 31, 2014 19:58:34 GMT -6
These gentlemen do include the weather, point spread, score, time, kicker's ability, home/away, opposing special teams current and historical block FG, and the opposing teams offense into making that decision.
Can I call them from Quarter to Quarter during game if weather changes?
Are you trying to sell something here?
I'm not selling anything. Good guys that make a good product. I posted an analytic company's website in a thread about analytics. Call them whenever you like. Try their new consultant Tom Osborne.
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Post by 4verts on Mar 31, 2014 19:56:22 GMT -6
These gentlemen do include the weather, point spread, score, time, kicker's ability, home/away, opposing special teams current and historical block FG, and the opposing teams offense into making that decision. Sorry, I'm not buying it. I have no problem with deciding to go for it rather than kicking. I have a problem with this particular service calling the decision to kick the worst decision of the year. I think that they'e just talking out of their a$$es. You say that these guys are going to make a lot of money. How? Well I know Stanford and Nebraska just bought it. Wofford did as well.
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Post by 4verts on Mar 31, 2014 18:19:05 GMT -6
Which is more likely? Getting 5 yards or making a 50 yard FG? All the book says is that over the last 5 years that teams in that same position went on to win the game 30% of the time when they went for it in that situation, and 18% went on to win when they kicked the FG in that situation. If I'm 12% more likely to get laid by wearing a green shirt instead of black, I can assure you that you will see me in a green shirt. Is there a book on the percentages that you'll get fired if you pass up a makeable FG , don't get the 5 yards, and lose by 3? Saved our jobs by following it. I'd say that percentages are the same of you getting fired when you drive that kick low and get it blocked and run back for a TD and lose by 10.
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Post by 4verts on Mar 31, 2014 18:16:26 GMT -6
Going back to the "whether to kick a 51 yard field goal or not" in that situation...My decision may be to go for it one year and to kick the FG another....It depends on my personnel and what our capabilities are. If I have a kicker who can make a 51 yard field goal somewhat regularly and our offense has been struggling I'm definitely going to kick it.
...not to mention field conditions and weather.
Or the other team's propensity for blocking kicks.
Pure Analytics or data don't account for those considerations when making in-game decisions.
These gentlemen do include the weather, point spread, score, time, kicker's ability, home/away, opposing special teams current and historical block FG, and the opposing teams offense into making that decision.
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Post by 4verts on Mar 31, 2014 18:12:15 GMT -6
Which is more likely? Getting 5 yards or making a 50 yard FG? All the book says is that over the last 5 years that teams in that same position went on to win the game 30% of the time when they went for it in that situation, and 18% went on to win when they kicked the FG in that situation. If I'm 12% more likely to get laid by wearing a green shirt instead of black, I can assure you that you will see me in a green shirt.
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Post by 4verts on Mar 31, 2014 17:56:00 GMT -6
Following these guys charts and recommendations won us a ball game this year that allowed us to be bowl eligible and not lose our jobs. The actual book that they provide is way beyond anything on advanced stats.com. Call me crazy all you like, but that one win alone will keep me a client wherever I go.
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Post by 4verts on Mar 31, 2014 10:24:24 GMT -6
I looked at their site. They have a chart showing the "costliest" 4th down/2 point decisions of 2012 in college football. According to them the worst decision came in the NC State-Miami game. Behind 34-37 with 4th and 5 at the Miami 34 and 2:31 left to play, State kicked the tying FG. To that point, they had been at about 50% on 3rd/4th down conversions. Presumably, this was a poor decision because Miami won the game 44-37. However, they won on a 62 yard TD pass with 19 seconds to play (on 3rd and 11). Under the circumstances, I have a hard time buying the idea that this was really the worst decision of the year. Worked well for us is all I'm saying. We were top 10 in the country in 4th down percentage and scored a TD on 13 of 14 drives where we converted a 4th down. Following their chart it takes into account field position versus the clock and win percentage by decision based on every college game for the last 5-10 years. We thought of it as a supplement to the "gut feeling".
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Post by 4verts on Mar 28, 2014 19:21:17 GMT -6
What did you do there, coach? They did a case study on the program that I worked for last year. I was responsible for the game book in the box. I don't know that they do HS products, but it would be worth asking.
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Post by 4verts on Mar 28, 2014 19:09:16 GMT -6
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Post by 4verts on Mar 24, 2014 20:10:52 GMT -6
This question is as much relative to competitive environment as anything else. In some places if you don't ever add to or take away from you schemes or tweak verbiage/terminology every couple years you will get beat, and eventually cost you your job. There are several threads on this board every year complaining about assistants not being on the same page, or the HC being unorganized, or any number of staff related complaints. I've seen several threads where HCs feel like they have to do everything because nobody on their staff is prepared to do anything of any importance. You have months to address these concerns and improve your staff, and craft. If you don't take advantage of this time these complaints are your own fault. If you've had the same staff for an extended period of time and feel like you can have your team prepared to your absolute best then more power to you.
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Post by 4verts on Jun 29, 2013 10:55:56 GMT -6
The reason I gave names is because I was continually asked for proof. Even to the extent of "Let me know when you find one". Then it again it was try and refute one, but ignore the others. As for 1AA jobs, the poster asked me to find someone with 1A or 1AA.
Truth is it is tough to get these jobs. A quality HS assistant doesn't go to be a position coach at a major D1 because he doesn't have enough experience for the job. Not saying he couldn't coach the heck out of that position, but he has never recruited.
Huey if you want to delete the thread go for it. Just a difference of opinion at this point.
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Post by 4verts on Jun 29, 2013 0:22:46 GMT -6
Zohn Burden-ODU WRs if you consider prep school HS he was a position coach there
Mark Thurston-Norfolk State DL, one year of semi-pro then two years of hs position coach
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Post by 4verts on Jun 29, 2013 0:01:14 GMT -6
Again Travis Pearson. He was not a GA or Coach at the D1 level. His last job was as the DC at Colquitt County in Georgia.
Jordan Hankins. UT Martin Associate HC, LBs. Previous job was at a position coach at Riverdale HS in Murfreesboro, TN
Dewayne Alexander. Tn-Tech. Was an assistant in middle Tn for 8 years before going to 1st stint at Tn-Tech.
Curt Newsome. You probably know him. Had plenty of experience before he went to college. Both assistant and HC.
I will continue to look for more.
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Post by 4verts on Jun 28, 2013 22:58:49 GMT -6
You asked about well paying college jobs. All the guys that Auburn hired are making well over $100k.
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Post by 4verts on Jun 28, 2013 18:36:39 GMT -6
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Post by 4verts on Jun 28, 2013 18:16:38 GMT -6
Getting a D1 job that pays well is hard to get no matter what level you currently coach at. That would be my point. So because I GA ten years prior to any job doesn't mean it is the reason I get that job. So do I think GA at Alabama 10+ years ago got a DC job at South Alabama, no. Did it help him get that first of many HS jobs, yes. Find a HS assistant who got a D.1 job without some college coaching in his background. Travis Pearson has no coaching experience in college football. He was DFO, but this is definitely not a coaching position. His last job was as the defensive coordinator at Colquitt County GA.
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Post by 4verts on Jun 28, 2013 15:19:58 GMT -6
Getting a D1 job that pays well is hard to get no matter what level you currently coach at. That would be my point. So because I GA ten years prior to any job doesn't mean it is the reason I get that job. So do I think GA at Alabama 10+ years ago got a DC job at South Alabama, no. Did it help him get that first of many HS jobs, yes.
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Post by 4verts on Jun 28, 2013 13:28:47 GMT -6
How many current D1 coaches punched that lottery ticket and been at the D1 level for their entire career? It is just as unlikely that a D2 coach ever get a well-paid D1 or 1AA job.
To there being 96,000 HS coaches, would you consider all the coaches on your staff of the ability to be a D1 coach? I don't think is an unfair assessment.
I'm not saying it is easy. I'm not saying it is likely. I'm saying it happens more than you think.
Not everyone that gets a D1 GA job gets a D1,1AA,2,3,NAIA,JUCO job. Got a buddy that just left coaching altogether from being a quality control at an SEC program because he can't get a job.
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