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Post by benloe on Nov 14, 2022 12:57:44 GMT -6
Hey, coaches!
I'm trying to cut down on "clinic talk" on the field.
What are some of your favorite coaching cues that paint the picture for what you want the players to do?
Could relate to any techniques or tactics.
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Post by benloe on Jun 29, 2018 6:00:24 GMT -6
I'm very pleased with Joe's content. He's currently updating several of his systems, so new things are coming. I've yet to find a better deal, anyway.
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Post by benloe on May 7, 2018 0:00:27 GMT -6
Thanks for the input, coaches. We won 33-0 yesterday - that definitely didn’t have all to do with our calmer build-up, but I think it suited the personality of our team better. Kick coverage was better, but I’ll look for a bigger sample before I jump to conclusions.
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Post by benloe on May 5, 2018 15:15:03 GMT -6
Are you the HC? Is the "hype guy" also a "real coach" or just a hype guy? I'm the HC. The hype guy is a coach, but he doesn't need to be a hype guy - it's more of a role that he takes on. What we're pondering is whether we'd be better off having a slightly calmer build-up in the last few minutes before the game starts.
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Post by benloe on May 4, 2018 5:26:47 GMT -6
Scenario: The hype guy on staff is getting the players pumped before the game. Do you think this is useful or not? I find that it often takes us a while to settle down. Consequently, we've been prone to giving up long kick-off returns to start the game and so on. My hypothesis claims that the players are "psycked" enough without any additional rah-rah, and that we'd be better off systematically running through last minute reminders from the game plan? First thought was that you are trying to place blame on why you give up kick returns. Second thought was if you are prone to giving up kick returns why are you kicking it deep to their guy? Oh, I'm sure we as many others should spend more time on special teams, and we have this year. It remains to be seen how that works out, but we don't struggle with kick-offs on a general basis - we struggle with kick-offs at the beginning of games. When that is said. I asked my specific question for a reason. I'm looking for advice to a specific issue, so I would prefer if you told me something useful instead. If this is not something you know a whole lot about, I'd rather hear from coaches that have some insight into the psychology behind this. Let's make each other better coaches, yeah?
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Post by benloe on May 4, 2018 4:58:12 GMT -6
To each his own. In my experience some players need it. Some guys don't. Some staffs also just a philosophy of being quiet and everyone just doing their jobs. Other staffs/programs take a different philosophy. Do you have any advice on achieving some sort of middle ground? How would that play out?
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Post by benloe on May 4, 2018 3:13:39 GMT -6
Scenario:
The hype guy on staff is getting the players pumped before the game. Do you think this is useful or not? I find that it often takes us a while to settle down. Consequently, we've been prone to giving up long kick-off returns to start the game and so on.
My hypothesis claims that the players are "psycked" enough without any additional rah-rah, and that we'd be better off systematically running through last minute reminders from the game plan?
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Post by benloe on Mar 24, 2018 17:47:57 GMT -6
It was about the price of a new sled. I bought the coaches choice dvd which I thought was really good. I paid $15 instead of $6000. Could you provide a link for that? I can't seem to find it.
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Post by benloe on Mar 19, 2018 13:06:13 GMT -6
I have a players who is always late by a minute or two no matter if it is practice, S&C class, team meetings, etc. We have tried it all. Punishment such as gassers, peer pressure where whole team has gassers if he is late, playing time cut, points off his grade in S&C class, getting written up for tardy in S&C class, etc. and absolutely nothing motivates him to be on time. If he didn't work hard it would be a lot easier to just boot him out of the program, but he works very hard. It is getting started that is the problem. I am at a loss short of kicking him out of the program. He is a decent player but not an All American......not that it would be any easier if he were. Any ideas? I have been a head coach for 32 years and never experienced this level of this tardy problem. I'm just going to ask - have you sat down with the kid? Since you've tried all sorts of punishment, you may want to try a little compassion to see if that works. I find it hard to believe that he intentionally attempts to be chronically late just for the heck of it, so there may some off the field stuff going on. Also, you're not alone (as shown in the comments), but punishing players with conditioning is stupid/uninformed. You don't want your players to consider conditioning punishment. It's one of those things where coaches do that because "that's how it's always been done", but it is really rather counter-productive.
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Post by benloe on Nov 29, 2017 7:03:10 GMT -6
He declined because he felt if Geno Smith was going to be the QB, he should be from opening Kick off.
Not because he "doesn't want to be a part" of it. He made a point of saying he will do his job as backup, as you would expect from him.
The lesson to be learned is loyalty is a one-way street and the Giants are being horribly mismanaged. I don't necessarily disagree, but I also got a feeling of "if we're not competing to win, why are we even here?" Tom Coughlin preached competitive greatness and always putting your best foot forward. I'd be a little disillusioned to find that my boss doesn't try to put us in the best situation to win either - regardless of the current record. You simply do not lose on purpose in sports.
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Post by benloe on Nov 29, 2017 6:34:55 GMT -6
Coaches,
As I'm sure you noticed, the NFL community was rather disturbed yesterday when Eli Manning was benched. I find it interesting that he was given the choice to start, but declined.
What it says to me is that he doesn't feel like the team is trying to win anymore, and that's not something he wants to be a part of. What did you learn from his reaction?
What can we all learn from Eli? And what lessons can coaches at other levels take from this situation about managing personnel?
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Post by benloe on Apr 17, 2017 1:10:10 GMT -6
Agreed. What I'd do as the new DC, though, is to learn the terminology that the players and staff is used to. If I talk about force players, while the last guy used to talk about contain players, I'm wasting time teaching new terminology when I should spend that time teaching fundamentals. Isn't that what installing a new system is all about? We went to a new school 3 years ago and I found their old wristband with 100 offensive plays on it, threw it right out. Took all their old play books and tossed em. I don't care how they talked it's our team our system now. Kids probably don't even remember their old stuff after a few weeks any ways. As far as the OP, no one else on staff had a playbook or knew the system enough to inform the other coaches still there? We left a school 4 years ago. Deleted everything except game film on HUDL. Think we left 3 dry erase markers and an eraser in the coaches office. Bit different with the whole staff leaving but even if it was just me unless someone kept what I passed out I'm leaving no trace I was there. Let's agree to disagree. I'm just being pragmatic. I'm a language teacher. Sure, they may have forgotten parts of the language while they didn't use it, but it's much easier to re-learn than to learn a completely new grammatical system. More often than not, I'm relatively fluent in other coaches' terminology, so it's a lot easier for me to learn the verbage than it would be for the entire team (and staff) to learn a new language.
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Post by benloe on Apr 16, 2017 10:39:37 GMT -6
I think that is really petty. If anything, if I left on good terms but the guys remaining still wanted to use my stuff, I would view that as a heck of a nice compliment. I'll add to that: The eagerness to share knowledge is partly what makes the coaching profession so great, and what makes us improve as coaches. If I'm leaving on good terms, I hope they learnt something from me while I was there.
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Post by benloe on Apr 16, 2017 9:50:30 GMT -6
Well, the good news is that the new DC gets to write his own playbook. Agreed. What I'd do as the new DC, though, is to learn the terminology that the players and staff is used to. If I talk about force players, while the last guy used to talk about contain players, I'm wasting time teaching new terminology when I should spend that time teaching fundamentals.
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Post by benloe on Apr 16, 2017 9:46:26 GMT -6
I hate the term. Your team's not your family. You can greate a supportive brotherhood. You don't have to be a family to care about each other.
However, in order to create a team rather than a group of individuals, it's necessary that players and coaches get to know each other outside football.
Arrange barbeques, bonfire nights, etc. Take time to talk to your players about topics that they are concerned with that have nothing to do with football. Maybe you can sit down in position groups and share life experiences? Some will contribute more than others, but many may benefit from it. When people share experiences, they forge bonds. You don't want to quit on someone you care about.
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Post by benloe on Apr 16, 2017 9:32:09 GMT -6
I should add that we cross-train some players... Our players primarily focus on one side of the ball, but we do cross-train enough players to the point where they can do an adequate job on the other side of the ball if a player goes down.
It's important to keep your x's and o's simple, so that you won't have to commit too much time to the cross-training.
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Post by benloe on Apr 16, 2017 9:26:55 GMT -6
I've read several times on here about the benefits of 2 platooning. My question is how have guys at small schools done this. Has anyone been succesfull. We average around around 35 guys. After drawing up the starting D, there's not much left to build an O with. We have about the same numbers, and we two-platoon everybody except the linemen. There are not enough big guys to go around, so big guys play both ways (we have to do a rotation to keep them fresh). Our defensive system depends on the big guys to stop the run. If I need somebody more athletic to get to the passer, we'll bring a linebacker. Our experience shows that our best dudes generally perform better when they can stay fresh, and the not so great players get better at their jobs when they get to focus on getting better at fewer tasks.
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Post by benloe on Apr 16, 2017 9:20:18 GMT -6
But, does finishing the speech with "let's win a ball game" go against focusing on the process? I, too, believe in focusing on the process, but we're focusing on getting better in order to achieve the goal (winning), right? Many people struggle to find inner motivation. Winning provides plenty of outer motivation. To me, the process is an everyday-mentality. It's the concept of focusing on doing the little things right to improve day by day. Focus on the development and the results will come. At the same time, we are aware of what type of results we want.
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Post by benloe on Apr 16, 2017 9:08:03 GMT -6
I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing. There is an agreement between the coaching staff at a place like EMCC and the players...win championships for the school and the school will do everything it can to get kids a scholarship. As long as that happens, there aren't going to be any issues. ------------------------------- I do think that there should be a parallel route to the NFL for some of these kids. Clearly, a lot of them were simply not motivated to get a free education. For these kids, it was the NFL, boom or bust. And again...I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing. There should be some kind of NFL "minor league" in which kids who are not motivated academically can still compete at a high level and have a chance to move on to play professionally. Of course, the NCAA would resist that effort as it would deprive them of the monopoly on talented athletes. "I get what I want, and you get what you want." - Coach Kilmer (Varsity Blues) Ugh, I have no idea how how people end up as "transaction coaches". You have to invest too many hours of work to get the opportunity to coach at a relatively high level. What's your motivation if you don't really care about your players? ------------------------------- Not all people are capable of attaining a degree - it's supposed to be hard. I agree that not being academically gifted shouldn't keep you from getting the opportunity to play football at a high level.
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Post by benloe on Apr 16, 2017 8:55:39 GMT -6
I also wondered if the HC's approach was due to the fact that he had a lot of tough kids on the team and that was the style that ithose kids best responded to. Or maybe the HC is just kind of an a$$hole. I'm sure the coach coaches in the way that he believes gets the most out of his players athletically. Not too sure he's all that concerned with developing young (troubled?) men.
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Post by benloe on Mar 21, 2017 14:43:23 GMT -6
Listening to the podcast right now, while having a notepad in front of me. Great stuff!
I've thought a lot about how to balance football with everything else lately. It's great to get input from somebody else that struggles with the same issues that I do.
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Post by benloe on Mar 21, 2017 14:36:37 GMT -6
Organized, diciplined football teams are hard to beat. I'm guessing most of them practice rather effectively.
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Post by benloe on Mar 7, 2017 8:48:02 GMT -6
Offense vs. Defense Offensive position Group vs. defensive position Group Starter vs. back-up.
Team vs. coaches can be fun... "if the lineman catches the coach's punt, practice is over. If he doesn't, a cardio workout begins.
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Post by benloe on Feb 26, 2017 1:07:54 GMT -6
It certainly helps to have the GOAT at quarterback, but I think it's somewhat unfair to point to Brady as the reason why Belichick is so successful w/o considering why Brady is so successful.
Granted, Brady has "it". He's extremely driven, but Coach Belichick has also provided Brady with a team environment that has served as a catalyst for Brady's player development. Player development doesn't happen in a vacuum, and a lot of things have to come together for å a player to become the greatest of all time (I know I'm stating the obvious).
What impresses me the most is how thorough Belichick is in his work. It seems that nothing surprises him, and he's seen it all (or his dad told him about it). When there's a new trend that some coaches struggle with, he re-visits his football history books to find what killed it in the first place.
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Post by benloe on Mar 5, 2016 11:18:21 GMT -6
Coaches,
We want to teach our players to watch game tape more effectively. The players are adults, but they have very little football experience.
We play nine-man football (you remove the offensive tackles). Our opponents are often spread offenses, but we also go up against a split back veer team.
The field has regular dimensions, which means that we have less guys to cover the same field as you do. This means that if you only rush two, you can still drop seven players into zone coverage, but many teams choose to play man coverage instead.
We are a spread option offense, and the speed option is our base play. The RB is almost exclusively a pass protector when we throw the ball. Our defense consists of two 2i-techs and two 40-tech linebackers. Two safeties (SS and $), two cornerbacks and a FS. We typically play a version of Cover 3, where SS and $ patrol the flats, the two linebackers are responsible for H/C and the FS and the CBs are each responsible for 1/3 of the deep field. SS and $ are our force players, while the FS becomes the alley player.
We spot drop (we don’t have enough practice time to pattern match effectively). We sometimes combine man coverage with blitzes as a change-up.
I want to create a document for what specific position groups should look for when preparing for an opponent. It might be a good idea to make it a checklist kind of deal?
Either way, I’m looking for input for what each position group should look for.
Position groups: QB, RB, OL, DL, LB, S, CB, FS.
Thanks a lot.
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