Post by CentralTechFootball on Jun 9, 2017 11:33:14 GMT -6
Greetings Coaches,
I am a teacher-coach in Toronto, Canada, in a large school board up here.
Obviously - It is an ENTIRELY different world and there are a lot of 'issues' as I perceive them, but it is what it is.
I would like to ask for some feedback/experiences/advice on possible ways to Tier a league, that have worked for your programs in the past, when geography and/or size of school are not possible dividers.
Pertinent Background -
We have not run our leagues by school-size classification for many many years. There simply are not enough programs of particular size to make that effective. Basically, any size/enrollment that fields a football team, is entered into the same league. However, our league is then tiered into 1/2/3 based on coach's decisions on their programs competitiveness in the preseason.Yes this can and has created some colourful 'debate' due to sandbagging, real or perceived, and various other issues when the coaches get to essentially 'pick their tier' etc...
HENCE - this year at our Board Athletics AGM they are proposing to 'force' the Tier 2 champs and finalists (in all sports - baseball is also dealing with same issue heavily) each season to move up, the following Fall.
I agree with the spirit of this sort of proposal, but with the majority of our football programs across the Board being run by 2-3 teacher-coaches at best and there being a LOT of enrollment upheaval the past few years across our city, this is bound to be a very controversial motion.
THAT BEING SAID - as the 'football coaches' we run our league and do also have the ability to structure things and incorporate rules like this, if we choose at our separate Coach's meeting. I think this will be the best avenue for positive change and that is why I write.
I am wondering if any of you could share any effective ideas and/or experiences OUTSIDE of 'school size' or geography by which leagues you have been involved with have tiered....
I appreciate your input,
TL/DR - How have you seen league TIER/RELEGATION rules work in your experiences where 'enrollment'/school size is not the criteria? Please share
I am a teacher-coach in Toronto, Canada, in a large school board up here.
Obviously - It is an ENTIRELY different world and there are a lot of 'issues' as I perceive them, but it is what it is.
I would like to ask for some feedback/experiences/advice on possible ways to Tier a league, that have worked for your programs in the past, when geography and/or size of school are not possible dividers.
Pertinent Background -
We have not run our leagues by school-size classification for many many years. There simply are not enough programs of particular size to make that effective. Basically, any size/enrollment that fields a football team, is entered into the same league. However, our league is then tiered into 1/2/3 based on coach's decisions on their programs competitiveness in the preseason.Yes this can and has created some colourful 'debate' due to sandbagging, real or perceived, and various other issues when the coaches get to essentially 'pick their tier' etc...
HENCE - this year at our Board Athletics AGM they are proposing to 'force' the Tier 2 champs and finalists (in all sports - baseball is also dealing with same issue heavily) each season to move up, the following Fall.
I agree with the spirit of this sort of proposal, but with the majority of our football programs across the Board being run by 2-3 teacher-coaches at best and there being a LOT of enrollment upheaval the past few years across our city, this is bound to be a very controversial motion.
THAT BEING SAID - as the 'football coaches' we run our league and do also have the ability to structure things and incorporate rules like this, if we choose at our separate Coach's meeting. I think this will be the best avenue for positive change and that is why I write.
I am wondering if any of you could share any effective ideas and/or experiences OUTSIDE of 'school size' or geography by which leagues you have been involved with have tiered....
I appreciate your input,
TL/DR - How have you seen league TIER/RELEGATION rules work in your experiences where 'enrollment'/school size is not the criteria? Please share