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Post by captainpp on Jan 12, 2017 5:10:58 GMT -6
BULL SH!T, You demand from your H/S in Your area a corner of their practice field or maybe your park... You demand from your parents one hour a week on a certain day and on that same day You have that H/S borrow you shields and dummies so you can run a full team offense ... These are some of their kids they will be getting soon ... This isn't babysitting 101 this is football a TEAM SPORT ... (Life Lesson 1 ) If need be I'll be the first to sign a petition on Your behalf... P/S Please don't you naysayers come up with this insurance stuff, I see all over little teams on H/S grounds... Just get's me P/O when one good guy goes up against it all.
NEWS FLASH !!! Maybe in the offseason coaches/ people from this site and others could come up with a solution to help coaches like this with old stuff not in use anymore ... Like a free / low cost, page where like coaches can go too, simply to help out are kids...
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Post by captainpp on Jan 26, 2013 2:23:15 GMT -6
To go faster --- Get going like a loose goose in June
Stir a kid up --- Set his a$$ back on the bus and then go get his girlfriend phone #
When a kid is jaw-jaking --- Wise men say little and your gums are still flapping
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Post by captainpp on Jan 15, 2013 18:20:15 GMT -6
BLB, Thank You. This was what I was going to try to express . Prior DCohio mentioned something about the low block ( what we called and drilled all day on, The Flying Cross Body Block ) Later the Crack-Back Block came and that's the block that did the damage. He!! seeing some guy trotting his way to cross body ya that wasn't hard to defend. It slowed the defender down some, and at times a defender went down just to bounce back up. Seldom was there a leg injury.
As you mentioned, a rule came in. Not trying to get into a p!ssing contest with ya DCohio but that rule in my opinion, was a error. Regulate the low block yes . At this time I'm not going to express how, but it can be done.
Again IMHO, That rule just increased the speed to great lengths. Barely is there anything to stop this speed now. ( guess you can see that I'm a " O " coach ) What I hear from Def. Coaches these day's are phrases such as, " play with your ears pinned back " or " play downhill " and " rip though " Back in the day we heard " contain " " play with your head on a swivel " and " block the block " All 3 slow down the defender.
With the comment that the pro's outgrown the field, I totally agree. However, the receiver having to have both feet inbound's, I see it as totally unnatural and very dangerous.
Thing about the helmet I used . This could be different with other people my age, not sure. After you got it on, it was near impossible to get it off by yourself. What we had to do was get on all four's and have a friend pull from the ear portion and the other person try to wedge finger tips in to protect his ears. Another way, pull from the facemask and back of the helmet and wedge from the ear's again. Yes they were heavy, but I can't recall ever feeling like I hurt my head in any degree. Now that was freshman year. Senior year with the much lighter helmet for sure I felt blows.
I'm most likely wrong with my opinion with the low block rule. There sure was a lot of leg injuries. Just not sure of where they were occurring as to the field. Still it seems like all they did was open up another can of worms. Anywhoo playing football with a sense of uncertainty has danger written all over it. For me this is exactly what they are asking.
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Post by captainpp on Jan 14, 2013 18:36:11 GMT -6
Many of you here are Masters of your craft at being teachers and getting a solid education. Myself I'm not as well versed as you. Sometimes I feel out of place so I don't respond much but I am asking for your indulgence with this topic. I have TBI. which I am rated at 90% disable though the V.A. Other things after the service occurred which didn't help this out much but I'm not going into detail with that. The things you guys mention about someone with a brain problem are correct. All of them add up but lack of sleep for me anyway was the main. Use of pain pills and alcohol for a long time seemed to be the fix but it wasn't. I was losing it at a young age. I was on the road to fill in another % on DCohio's list. Just was wondering if things like this were associated with these other players. I could be completely off my rocker but now that alcohol is gone and a small amount of meds and trigger point injection's I don't feel all that bad. Just curious that's all. Please understand that I'm not trying to reflex any thing negative about these guys. My heart goes out to the families. Just hopeful that they were receiving the proper care after football.
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Post by captainpp on Jan 14, 2013 13:02:41 GMT -6
Chuck, First good question, and very similar for us and most likely many other. I noticed on your school site, at the varsity picture that you have 5 coaches on your staff. We have 7. The Back to Back State Champs and Team that is always in the mix, ( who we share the same sand-box with) Conference, seek to try to place 9 coaches just in the press box during games. There are many other coaches on the sideline. I am a believer in, more is better. If a coach is able to instruct his expanded staff, I see it as a win. Another way of looking at it since most of you are teachers is this. When classroom sizes were smaller wasn't it a win - win for both the student and the teachers As in my case, I was retiring soon. I answered a ad in the paper for a 7th and 8th grade coaching gig. Prior because of a housing move I wasn't involved in coaching for several years. Mind you, I have been coaching or had some kind of involvement, there of, since I was 17. I'm 58 1/2 now. H/C asked if I could be at Varsity Camp to get accustom for the purpose of a feeder program that was in place. After 3 days of working with the running back, he approached me asking if I wouldn't mind staying up at the Varsity. Are there more old timers out there I say, you can bet your buns there are and just waiting for a Howdy -Do from you. As to pay, hell we're retired. We made as much money as we are ever going to make. My H/C started to discuss money with me and I politely picked up another slice of pizza while at the pizza place, stuck out my other hand for a handshake and said paid in full. He still gives me some coins that fall off the edge of the table to help cover the fuel cost but never did I ask for anything. Most of that finds it's way back into the program one way or another. In closing --- If this sparks any interest, maybe suggest to your paid coaches, for each of them to go out and get their own assistant that they can work with. Just follow a chain of command style that is headed by you. Older gents or younger just so long they follow instruction's and not free-lance. 2) You may find a nut like myself that will be at practice everyday 1 hour earlier than the teachers to prep the field and to get the S/Teams ready and in motion. 3) Maybe that same nut or a different one will be up all night and day, breaking down film because again " HE's RETIRED " and able to get to the fine details that sometimes get missed by others -- BECAUSE -- " THEY'RE NOT RETIRED " and are involved with Fundraisers, Parent-Teacher Conf, Grading Papers, In Staff Meetings, DA DA DA etc. Chuck, thanks for all that you do with your kids and here at Huey's . This is just my viewpoint . For those ready to give their negative feedback don't bother " I'm Retired and Don't Care"
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Post by captainpp on Jul 12, 2011 3:02:02 GMT -6
coach5085, 2 years ago I wrote on this site the same thing that you just did... I did take time off and landed this gig now... I very happy coaching again ... I know that everyone's situation is different ... I hope if you do,hang them up, that all that you wanted to accomplish had been fulfilled... Myself it wasn't, which made it hard to except... The movie Schindler's List, haunted me from time to time, where he was leaving and breaking down and saying, if only he would have done things differently he could have saved one more person... Guess what I'm trying to say Coach is that you may find it harder than you expect, if you don't leave on your own terms... Sorry Coach, Just hard on me to here about a good coach leaving the ranks... Anyway Hat's off for ya!!! You earned it ...
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Post by captainpp on Jul 11, 2011 11:45:53 GMT -6
GOOD LUCK (A) Been there ... By the way if things don't pan out (but I wish they do) for ya , would you consider being like a personal adviser for myself... Someone just to bounce some stuff off of and help with scouting reports and the such ... I'm just a volunteer but alot has been offer to me this 2nd season of Varsity Running back coach and scout... More can be discussed about us but just think of a school that was top dog for years and getting pushed up to a higher class now... Picked to come in 5th or 6th and came in second with the state champs playing in our division and back yard... Good staff all teachers and 3 principal to boot... 9 full times coaches and other as advisors but I don't have one ... I read your stuff all the time and I kind of feel that I know ya well enough to ask ... We just got the Hudl program, should be able to use that... though we all are just learning it ...Any way your'll get something for sure .... just a thought ... (A) alot of us have been there... I'm glad you let it out here with your friend's... You know how this board works you'll get going soon, and for the better....
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Post by captainpp on Jul 6, 2011 0:17:05 GMT -6
Years ago I did what I call a pop up drill... Place receivers in given places on the field as to where there route would have ended if they received the ball during a normal play. Have them posistion with hands and body and all, in correct fashion. Use the game approach style to controll, correct deceision on the qb. part... It can change his choice... Have a defender on one knee in posistion to pop up and blanket the receiver... point to the player who you don't want to pop up . Don't let qb to see.... Pass the ball to the un-covered receiver ... In youth ball or any, interceptions happen when qb. try's to force... This drill was design for the purpose to throw the ball away, if all receiver's are covered .... Understanding to live for another down... And myself teaching this and having to live by it myself, which could be hard in itself to comply... Parent helped out at times with this drill by waving those noddles that they use in swimming pools to float with... I also use them in gauntlet drills to punch at the football and to trip up running backs...
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Post by captainpp on Jun 29, 2011 1:58:26 GMT -6
This is a good post and great answers... Keep it rolling ... Personally I never looked into much of this stuff... Now being in H/S Varsity Ball, (as a volunteer) I do sense this... H/C here, had many such things to overcome when he came in... Grade on him as I here through the grapevine is all good... Different than here on this site, I'm a coaches, coach... I just keep my trap shut on things that involve this kind of stuff, and teach the players the best I can, the way that the H/C ask of me ... But this is a good subject for me, as a learning tool ... Thanks
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Post by captainpp on Jun 25, 2011 3:24:33 GMT -6
Topdog, First let me say I liked what julien said, and we do this at times... I'm not sure if I'm hitting the nail on the head with what I'm about to express, but here goes it anyway... 7th and 8th grade coach for several years --- I would in groups take the kids up to the press box and show them the advantage of the view... I had several pairs of field glasses ( one a very good pair that I got while in the Marine Corps) The meaning behind this = NO EXCUSSES We would point out at different times that the Eyes were uppond you all... Are You going to meet the challenge... We also came out of the huddle with the saying of " One Heart " instead of break... Not sure if this did anything but we entered the field, Practice and Games with the saying One heart - One beat, from day one ... My way of thinking --- If I was a head coach --- I don't want to get into a spitting contest with this but I believe the game has lost some luster from years pass, in some area's... Just for regular games, one would have to get their early to get a good seat... Now get their at kick-off and plop your hiney down on the 50 ... Heck even the Soph. game prior, it was getting near standing room only... Then again this was in and around Chicago... In short when the chips are down, are you just playing for you or your team or school because we played for are community... Doing so just may be the thing to help in the tough ones... Thing is they need to be in the mix ... Just again my way of thinking but I would try to get more support from the community ... I have a way to help with this but it's long to explain but let me know if you have any interest... If I was a H/C = I would have my upperclassmen dedicate their season... Before start up I would invite them to a children hospital, with their permission to spend the day with their kids... Maybe 3 players for one child or whatever... Give them some gifts ( radio to here games, stuff toys , art stuff , ect... Take pictures, just a day with them... First Game maybe a few kids can come to the game, maybe not ... Parents will be guardian during game... Spoil them ... This is dedication game ... Picture of their kid's gets walked to a in-cased picture board that will be displayed at where they enter for the games all year... No need to look any further for the meaning of tough when the chips are down... Was thinking to change it to vet's because if anything would happen to their child it just may be to much to bare ... I'm thinking of doing this though, to dedicate my coaching year to a child so I won't whine about the hour's ...
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Post by captainpp on Jun 14, 2011 0:23:58 GMT -6
I umpire baseball games ... There is a big need in are area... But when football season comes around it's all football ...
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Post by captainpp on Aug 18, 2009 22:09:17 GMT -6
Hi Coach, Not sure if this is your first go around with the D/W but it seems like it is.. 3 seasons ago, reluctantly I ran it for all the wrong reasons... To long to go into... Anyway it just went south for us... Main cause, bad coaching (me)... I understand that your decision has been made to run the D/W and I'm not saying anything neg. about that or the system.. Thing is, it is a system.. I'm not saying everyone that runs the D/W is like this but I would take a guess that many start at entry level football in a quest to develop into a power for the later years... My take when I asked question like yours was basically the same as your receiving now, Give it time ... I just couldn't... Didn't have the pateice... Things that I took from that season... That Team is a good team and I will be coaching against them this year... Thats nothing new for them because for 4 years now they have had a different coach and offense to deal with.. It's a circus around here and many kids have a free ticket to ride the merry- go- round... Thats the system. I never worked any harder than that year ... I had it down but I couldn't get it across to them.. It's like there has to be a certain mind -set established that we are starting from scratch, run a few plays (which we didn't ) and grid the clock... Heck we practiced the wedge maybe 10 times and said OK what's next in the book... Never coach out of a book again.. I will try to keep learning.. I'm all for other's helping others with their stuff.. It just not my way.. Kodak moment --- Two pulling linemen one looking back at the back seeing that he had one defender on one leg another on the other and 2 other with their ears pinned back... Our other lineman making eye contact with me on the side line around 10 yards from the play with his arms extended as to saying "what the " .. One would think that they were the ball carrier the way they were zigging left and zagging right to get past the defenders.. We always looked very good going east and west.. North and South well not so good .. There's more but I can tell that I tried your patience to the point already with all this blab.. By the way I do run the Super Power.. I just take bits of things and make them work for me.. regards to the wedge lets see we started with the center wedge to the wedge 2 then 3 to the criss cross wedge and then a QB follow wedge all of them they broke out to early and line play was to high so we canned that later also I really rolled an egg that year it wasn't so much the kids just bad coaching and the kids picked up the sent.. I do wish you well and welcome to the meat grinding club ;D
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Post by captainpp on Aug 15, 2009 13:03:18 GMT -6
Well I just got done with a pretty long post on this subject only to lose it because I ran out of time on this site... Must of been the Almighty cause there were a few rants involved... Simply does your home field play the National Anthem .. I'm not sure about this year because I'm new here at this level... In the past I took my team's to different places that didn't and I'm pi$$ed about it... Is this one of those things where we will offend some other group or something,you know like saying a little blessing before or after a contest kind of thing... There always seems to be enough time at H/S games for this... OH!! I see just another way to short change are youth football players.. Let's not set the table by doing things correctly... Let them know that it's all right too short cut things just so long it pacifies them in the end... Kinda like how other people that get paid to run the show and on game day throw out the chains and field markers only to leave a message with the P.A. guy to tell the coaches to make sure the field is picked up and to have everything at the garage door as he heads out the gate on his way to the tavern... Personal sorry ... But since I'm at it why don't I just come face to face with it Not all, but many that I met and I' speaking about the admin and ref's in youth play care only about the pay check and the time it takes to make it... Don't try to sell me that it's not so because it is ....... If it wasn't then they would change out when the quarter ran out instead of having games played by half's... Plus this short clock and or running clock cr@p stinks ... Where is everyone going in such a hurry Are we doing this to pacify a ref or some other or is this for the kids... They paid the price all week give them there due... They want to play in front of there folks and we as coaches are having a hard time giving kids playing time at different times.. WHAT THE HECK ... Like Dave C. mentioned in the post Clock, at times he's able to grid a clock to almost half time or something like that ... This also happen with us a few years back... A better than good D/W team went 3 yards 4 yards 3 yards the whole length of the field.. I swear that the coach yelled at his team if they gained more than 5 on a carry... We first scored on the 4 th play of the game only to see the ball for a few seconds in the second half because by accident there kicker missed the ball on a kick-off and it turned into a on-side which they recovered in the first half... Wasn't worth the gas that it took to get to this out of area place except they were a good group... Well enough of this chit... At least I learned something from this rant... All to well I learned what my Marine Corps Brother's and other Warrior's in the Armed Forces meant by the saying of Getting Wasted for Your County I should have mentioned earlier this came to be a few years back and I never did anything about it and I'm dumping it out on you guy's and I'm sorry, truly I am Had my team at a well to do club team complex... They had all their junk music going and just the full get out stuff... Finally I had my guy's with their hats off on the side line getting ready to honor are great county... Finally the side judge says come on coach get your receiving team out there I asked how about the anthem he just Say's guess their not doing it running past start up time or something .. Find out later they had a CD thing but it had scratches oh OK I could understand that only to find out by another it been running on 4 weeks now... Have money for all the other crap but not to have a National Anthem one and a back up just in case HORSE APPLES...
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Post by captainpp on Aug 15, 2009 7:50:47 GMT -6
Thanks Dave I'll try to do just that... I agree about the refs totally... I'm also not a big fan of not changing over from quarter to quarter... I'll explain why in a different thread coming next... You would think they would want to, to get the training but nottttt everybody in a big dam hurry... I'm a baseball ump and I call the game the same at any level so I can get recognized as a professional... Later and check out the thread National Anthem
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Post by captainpp on Aug 14, 2009 20:31:39 GMT -6
Make it 4
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Post by captainpp on Aug 14, 2009 20:17:09 GMT -6
WOW !! It's good to know that I'm not ( totally nuts ) that there is a lot of different set playing times... Not that this is a good thing, just the not being nuts part... Coach Bigdog, I am glad for ya... That is impressive but I'm just thinking that for many this isn't the norm... I just have to believe with a short clock it's more in a way Dave is expressing, myself included... This question was asked to see if some how, a set playing time could be obtained by some kind of governing body... This is my reason's why 1. IMHO. Kids,Parent's and Coaches are getting short changed.. Much time and energy is being spent during the week of practice and for 2- 10 min. half's If you turn your head to sneeze, pack it up, game over... 2. Hard to plan a attack, when you get to the game field to be informed of a short running clock... 3. Set standards I'm all for, just let us know what they are ... I understand playing time has to be limited at different age brackets because of injuries... Have a set minimum of player's and a set clock to accomadated... I see all other kind of rules in football just can't see why we can't come up with something to regulate this I'm in for 12 min. quarters for 7th and 8th grade mim of players =20...
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Post by captainpp on Aug 13, 2009 21:26:00 GMT -6
I understand that this question seems weird but what is the normal time for a quarter with 7th and 8th grade ball... I have been around in different area's and it always seems to be differant... 10 min. then 8 min. and even 7 min. I'm really not sure anymore... We do at time play club teams and maybe this is why I'm all screwed up and I'm sorry in advance if this should have been sent to rules... Many thanks
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Post by captainpp on Aug 6, 2009 8:29:15 GMT -6
I have in years past but not always... For myself it's always been the QB... Looking at this thread I guess I could have used a different player and didn't... Thinking that it had to be the QB. to do this... Several reasons pop up, with why I do and why I don't do this... The don't... 1. Sometimes I just didn't have the take charge player to do so ... 2. The time that this does require... 3. Not Understanding the full benefit that this does have ... 4. Getting knocked down a few pegs by mostly you guy's, that I'm not the Supreme Being of football and for goodness sake it's only a youth football game, let them experience and have fun... For that this coach does thank you all, now it's fun for me... NOTE -- 4 years now the QB. have been calling plays but not the whole game but a good amount... Why I do 1. It helps with a coaching style I now use putting the athletes first... 2. The flow of practice and games seem alive and fresh... 3. It helps me to get upstairs to take a peek during a game , first series if we can keep it going for a bit... 4. It seems like we communicate better now as to coach / player... It's not just a my team thing, it's a our team because they have a say on what's going on... Heck we even have them summit 3 plays that they come up with and we as coaches will select 1 to put into the book... 5. Many players won't go past H/S playing football but I hope that they gain some knowledge of X's and o's and carry that over to become coaches themselves or in the sport industry... Lord knows there's a need... Now all this being said, this is a different team and area and H/C... He knows nothing about this style because of HIS other commitment's at the present, we haven't talked much YET... It's going to be all OK. right guy's? In closing (stop clapping) some things that were ironed out... 1. To much talking in the huddle... Nipped early... QB. doesn't send anyone out but will inform me at a break and well this is where I get un-glued a bit but I do this at the right time and place... The jaw- jacker mite as well just sit down and start un-lacing................ 2. I must always be ready to follow the flow and have a play ready to send in when he needs my surport... It's just a simple jester of 2 hands on the helmet and the play is sent in... 3. THE HEAT of doing this which at times come's... I'll take it all... If they want the job and the pay that goes with it I guess it's all their's... Plus they are all informed of how things are done to the point of even having a half hour chalk talk once a week for the parent's... Not a b$tch session but a better understanding of what we our trying to do... Really geared more to the Mom's but all are welcomed...
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Post by captainpp on Aug 6, 2009 5:04:44 GMT -6
Good Thread... I believe my style changed with time and education and now finally health... Looking back at it now it reminds me of Fatherhood... MY first son, I made alot of mistakes was to stern and was yelling to much... My second son seemed better but to tell the truth I became so involved with work and supporting that a void between us arised... This also seemed to carry over with coaching... I was there for the kids but because I was coaching 2 and sometimes 3 sport's and trying to run the whole show in some sport's, I became over extended which caused a communication breach... Now that I think things though better my communication with my boy's and teams seems better... I don't try to drill my way into them anymore ... I'll try to look at things from their viewpoint, hash some things out that need be and seek positive results... It mostly comes out to do things my way anyway as to sport's...
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Post by captainpp on Jul 31, 2009 9:21:55 GMT -6
Way back when, heck over 20 years now, we would use masking tape on our blocking dummies and mark the opponents def. linemen # ers on them when we did our run thou. We were able to do this because we did have scouting reports because all the games were played on one field on Sunday's... First and like third Sunday of the season, we scouted all day. This did seem to help our boy's out a bit, smacking that same number all week and then taking it to the field on Sunday. Just saying if you do this kind of practicing maybe there's a usefulness for those vest in some way...
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Post by captainpp on Jul 30, 2009 13:07:16 GMT -6
Oh the second part of the question ... hands down my Dad... it would be heaven sent... 2 time Captain of Mount Carmel in Chicago... 1 time All Chicago Player of the Year... 20 some years of coaching... My view point the list starts there for me...
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Post by captainpp on Jul 30, 2009 11:08:35 GMT -6
I think they need to expand the list... From the book Vince " I can't conceive of a greater coach than Blaik " hard to put the student before the teacher...
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Post by captainpp on Jul 30, 2009 5:38:35 GMT -6
Our thought's and prayer's are with you and your's in these trouble times... May our Savior's Healing Hand's restore all health to your wife, thou our faith in Your Son Jesus Christ who thou Him all things are made...
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Post by captainpp on Jul 26, 2009 16:43:40 GMT -6
I here ya Max... and really it sound's like your blessed to have your special someone caring for ya...
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Post by captainpp on Jul 25, 2009 11:13:46 GMT -6
2 or 4 beer's ... in my hey day that's what I called a wash... just messin with ya ... what ever works for ya ...
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Post by captainpp on Jul 24, 2009 0:32:44 GMT -6
Here I am 1:30 in the morn. whishing I was a drinker so instead I turn on my 30 cup coffee maker and start a new day. Nighty night everybody.
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Post by captainpp on Jul 23, 2009 17:38:22 GMT -6
Hey Big, I have been working on about the same issue for some time now. I'm trying but I just don't seem to be getting anywhere with it. I was looking at home schooled athletes that can't play in public district's. I was looking at 1500 per . this is varsity select traveling around the great lakes area. I was thinking the parents fork over the 500 and the player goes out and gets sponsored for a grand. I know the basic inner state H/Sers ask about 600 per but they don't go out of state. Guess I'll have to seek out Dave a bit and bend his ear because I'm getting no-where with my quest. For me it's about getting the word out with no start up cash cause I'm broke and that's no joke. Best to ya!!!
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Post by captainpp on Jul 22, 2009 14:38:08 GMT -6
Thanks for the story, May are Savior's grace be with him and all like him, specially his family.
SEMPER FI - NEVER DIE
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Post by captainpp on Jul 17, 2009 19:56:30 GMT -6
Good stuff all. In the lower levels, we would have certain plays that were all their own. We would have to mix in some 1st. with them, but it was their series of plays. We took practice time as much as we could to do so. It worked very well for us for several reasons. I would have to say that we did a good job at using them at the correct time. Not all plays were basic either, there were 2 that the first string didn't run. One was a screen and the other from a set that I came up with that's very different and unconventional. The last play of th 6 was a play that the kids them self drew up that was passed on by the coaches to set in place. Not really sure if this was what you were asking about but it did seem to help with moral and the such...
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Post by captainpp on Jul 17, 2009 18:50:06 GMT -6
AS VINCE SAID " DESIRE " IF I WAS YOU, I WOULD PUT DESIRE IN FRONT OF ALL THE STUFF YOU AND OTHER'S MENTIONED. SUCH AS = DESIRE TO SHOW UP ON TIME... DESIRE TO BE A LEADER ... DESIRE TO PLACE MY OPPONENTS A$$ BACK ON THE BUS (and get his girlfriend phone # on the way back) AH , DESIRE IS THE KEY AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN... Sorry for the cap's but I get a little tight when I get to talk en about desire and all to often the lack of .
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