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Post by coachwoodall on May 19, 2024 8:22:05 GMT -6
How do you also deal with outliers?
What about low outcome D&D situations?
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Post by coachwoodall on May 13, 2024 18:29:29 GMT -6
I've been at that small of schools. T shirts use to be a good way. Gold cards are good. I've never had good luck with 50/50. Trash bags sell good. If you got someone willing to donate a gun, gun raffles go well. BBQ cook out night with some action usually go well. You got to be careful and not to milk the same people to much. I think if you do quality stuff though they will put in. Yes, sell/offer stuff people in these areas that they would buy anyway, just rotate through a string of things. Meal night: hash chicken stew BBQ pasta meal mix it up, everybody eats supper just don't make it the same thing each month Do a car wash twice a year, make it around the start of school and just before summer vacation. If you want to do 3 make in in the middle of winter.... nobody likes washing their car in the cold months. Again hunting/fishing is big if the locale supports it. Also think outside the box... what does the locale NOT have? -lawn service -moving service -pressure washing -junk hauling Also another thing was HUGE in a small town school I was at, though not tied to the school, was a town wide yard sale. This was a 2 mile swath of the typical yards sale junk that was draw of the entire county for a whole weekend. Now I'm not saying do all that, but maybe a yard sale with donations from the town ---- get rid of my junk --- at the school.
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Post by coachwoodall on May 8, 2024 10:12:12 GMT -6
What was DCOhio's slogan?
You can lead a horse to water you can't make him drink, but I can drown his arse trying.
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 25, 2024 6:58:18 GMT -6
Another classic, at least down here, is the half-n-half raffle. Sell raffle tickets at each home game. Announce winner at half time. Half of the pot goes to the winner, the other half is kept by the team.
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 22, 2024 6:52:44 GMT -6
Illinois has no limit on players and up to 30 passes for coaches, managers and other school personal. those paper passes, easy to replicate....
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 20, 2024 9:44:22 GMT -6
An issue that less than 1% of teams nation wide would ever have to worry about. It is stupid but not being in a state title game in 25 years it would be of little concern to me. Its a first world problem I totally agree. I've been fortunate to be there, and I've always reminded young guns to be sure to enjoy even the 1st round of the playoffs b/c it is a special thing. You should never take for granted the chance to go deep in the playoffs. BUUUUT.... When a team does make it all the way, is one of the final two, has been fighting for 12, 14, or in our state 18 weeks (including preseason); how can you tell that JV coach that does all the grunt work and is invaluable for so many things that are not Friday night "Son, you've got to buy a ticket and sit in the stands", or that scout team senior that does all the right things and that knows he will never step on the field for anything that comes close to meaningful minutes, "Thanks dude, you can watch the game on the NFHS channel"? I can understand that you can't let every Tom, Dick, and Harry stand on the sidelines, but considering most of these games are at college stadiums, or at least big venue HS stadiums..... Why? Has anyone actually looked at the sideline of a P5 regular season game? There are at least a 100 people on the edges that have nothing to do with the play of the game. Heck, I can call my alma mater and get a sideline pass anytime.
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 12, 2024 9:40:21 GMT -6
Watching the coaching change cycle play through this year, and there were several schools that had the HC leave and almost immediately some of the schools named an interim HC. And in several cases the interim HC was eventually named the full time HC.
In the past you would only see the interim tag applied if it happened shortly before the start of or in the middle of the season. In several of the cases, the previous HC had left before Christmas and one of the assistants was named interim before any real search could begin.
Is this a by product of 'year-a-round' football?
Is the interim HC already a shoe in for the job, and the DO just has to go through the motions of opening the job/interviews?
thoughts?
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 11, 2024 15:06:12 GMT -6
What are the restrictions? Ok, bear with me...we have no roster or staff size limits until the state championship game. In the state championship game, you are limited to 9 staff members on the sideline. Staff = coaches, trainers/medical staff, waterboy, ball boy, Equipment manager, etc. Basically anybody who isn't a player. You are only allowed to dress 56 Players in our state championship game. This is regardless of classification/school size. Can you imagine telling a kid (and his parents) who invested 4+ years into your program that they can't be on the sidelines for the state championship game?!? There is not roster limits, but sideline passes are limited in SC
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 11, 2024 15:05:23 GMT -6
I asked someone on here the same question years ago and he didn't realize I was kidding. Made for an awkward back and forth. I know you don't give a sh!t but that was the first thing I thought when I read your message and I wanted you to have to think about that same thing next time someone says that to you. Kinda like paying it forward in a bad way...you're welcome that's why I responded that way It's kind of one of the PITA things about being at a 'football school'..... everybody wants to be seen as part of the program.
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 11, 2024 8:30:05 GMT -6
You can have every swinging d!ck in the town on the sideline if you want here have we worked together?
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 11, 2024 6:19:39 GMT -6
full scale triple option changes this imho if they don't understand, they are screwed When I started almost everyone still had an UC option package, now almost nobody does. I would imagine many, if not most, defensive coaches have never game planned for/played against and UC option team. Problem is, it is very hard to find staff members who have ever coached it. So unless you are in a situation where you can get good people and teach them, it is hard to coach it well on offense. When I started coaching, the first thing defensively we did every year was install option responsibilities.
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 10, 2024 15:50:35 GMT -6
Definitely in small school setting you have to be creative. As coachtconkle listed try the shotgun effect to see what sticks. Also in small towns, don't always do the same thing every year-- mix it up to keep it fresh. Selling cookie dough might be a big hit this year, but when grandma realizes it is just an expensive version of what is at the grocery store she won't buy it next year. Also a big tie in is to offer what the community wants/likes/is vested in. I was part of a rural school that raffled a (small) truck and we made something like $11,000 over 30 years ago... but there was a local dealer that had a son in the program that sold us the truck at cost and every kids that had a vehicle.... it was a truck. Also in a different place have had success in raffling an ATV, and raffling a shot gun. Also don't miss out on the small things like meal deals. Same school my softball team made a killing selling a pot of hash one of the girls dad made. Everybody eats, and if you can be the local take place several times a year you can make money... you just have to understand the mechanics of food service. In the small school setting don't try to hit the home run, work the small things. Like like coachtconkle said, if the town shows up for the games, concessions are windfall. Even at the other sports games. If little kids show up, they are going to want something to eat/drink. Selling little things can go a long way -- lollipops, gum, pixie sticks.... things that can be bought a dollar or so go like crazy b/c mom/dad/grandma wants to get lil' Billy out of the way so they can watch the game. Same in the school building if admin will allow..... have players always have cheap snacks/candy around to sell. In the 210ish student HS I worked at for 6 years, there was always some student athlete/band member that was carrying around a bag/box of candy or lollipops. You never had to look far to get your sugar fix. Basically be the school snack machine.
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 9, 2024 8:05:17 GMT -6
SC - no team/contact stuff 10 days of competition 7 on 7
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 9, 2024 6:50:28 GMT -6
I looked in UGA's storage containers/sheds, which they have all over their practice fields, a couple of weeks ago. Plus I watch and tried to count footballs, helmet dickies, cones, ets.... I even went into the storage building to see what was inside and stored. I saw all kinds of pads, rings, cones, sleds, chutes, arm pads, jugs machines, LOS fireman's hose, etc.... and most all were duplicates in each building. I only saw about a dozen-ish footballs being used by the 2 time defending National Champions in practice at a time. I might have missed some because I was mainly watching defense. But in the team periods, at the most 4 were in rotation. Maybe in the ST periods with a Jugs Machine there were 10+ going plus something going on somewhere else. Again I can only count what I see, and was not there to see everything. I'm sure the Punters and Kickers had bag full of balls to kick... but guessing like in HS those are squibs. I'm sure UGA has an many footballs as it wants, though. How about Kirby on the mic? Deion would get roasted for such a tactic.......... HA! I bet. We took our team down to watch the practice. There also were kids there on recruiting trips. Smart roasted some kid in the middle of practice for being on his phone instead of watching a drill. I'm not sure if it was one of ours or not b/c like I said I wasn't in charge of a position group.
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 5, 2024 21:09:09 GMT -6
I looked in UGA's storage containers/sheds, which they have all over their practice fields, a couple of weeks ago.
Plus I watch and tried to count footballs, helmet dickies, cones, ets.... I even went into the storage building to see what was inside and stored.
I saw all kinds of pads, rings, cones, sleds, chutes, arm pads, jugs machines, LOS fireman's hose, etc.... and most all were duplicates in each building.
I only saw about a dozen-ish footballs being used by the 2 time defending National Champions in practice at a time.
I might have missed some because I was mainly watching defense. But in the team periods, at the most 4 were in rotation.
Maybe in the ST periods with a Jugs Machine there were 10+ going plus something going on somewhere else.
Again I can only count what I see, and was not there to see everything. I'm sure the Punters and Kickers had bag full of balls to kick... but guessing like in HS those are squibs.
I'm sure UGA has an many footballs as it wants, though.
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 2, 2024 11:01:17 GMT -6
I think UGA had theirs back a couple of weeks ago. We've been going there for a few days over the last 5 years. The staff was there 03/19-21 and I think their clinic was either the on the 21st or 22nd
I didn't stay, just road down with the team and road back on the bus with kids on the 19th.
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 26, 2024 16:36:57 GMT -6
I'n not sure what y'all damnyankees can do, but summer 2+ hour practices are pretty much verboten down here. Plus I can hardly stand to be in my classroom for 3 hours straight....
2-a-days fix some of the heat problems, but with so much available outside of the August-November calendar why do we need to have these marathon days of work??
Are we as coaches that inefficient? Install, lift, condition; then building once pads are allowed.
2-a-day/3-a-day were: -back when kids played multiple sports -kids worked on the weekends and in the summer -kids 'needed' to be conditioned -- I.E. no summer training -coaches were tired of being home/working their second job
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 20, 2024 18:55:07 GMT -6
Situation: You are the Defensive Coordinator in one of the smaller classifications in your state. The team has a new assistant coach who will be your defensive "assistant." Meaning he will be the JV DC, in the booth on Fridays on the defensive headsets, helping you break down film, and game plan. He has one year of experience coaching high school football. He's going to be a great coach, but is just young. He really wants to learn, wants to meet, spend time digging into the defense, etc. I trust him to be willing to learn, not just constantly try to input his ideas, while also being honest and telling me any flaws he sees or issues with how I’m explaining it. Point is, he’ll be a good student. I want him to learn the defense as well as possible. He'll put time in and wants to meet with me, though my schedule is a little more crowded than his. I really won’t be able to spend much more than an hour or two per week MAX, so we can’t really sit down and do it in one big session. How would you structure teaching him the defense over the course of 2 - 2.5 months? How would you break it down week by week? What are non-negotiables that HAVE to be taught? What needs to be taught first? What can be put off until later? Breaking it down by DL/LB/DBs? Run game vs. Pass Game? If you have an outline you already use, even if it’s one for teaching an offense, I would love to see it. If it makes any difference, we are a Base Even Front, Spilling, Pattern Match Defense. The 1st thing I would teach beyond the basic philosophy of the/my defense would be communication. So meeting 1 -basic overview -philosophy -daily musts meeting 2 -communication; I.E. what you want to hear from the box on Friday night -- formations -- D&D -- personnel -- adjustments -- calls -- coverages -- etc....... build the vocabulary meeting 3 -what you want to install 1st/most important meeting 3+ -what ever you deem important after that Why I put box communication so high? I've been the box guy for 26 of 32 years I've been a coach. Other than the 1st year of coaching; the years I wasn't the box guy I was the DC on the field. When I couldn't clearly and concisely communicate with the other end, it was a miserable and frustrating experience. Having that common language makes that work so much easier. As time goes by also having the common understanding of defensive scheme continues making it better. But the communication/common language comes first. -what do you call the offensive formation --personnel grouping ---key personnel alignments -how do you call --certain run plays --certain pass, or do you just call concepts -how do call strength? from defensive (preferred) or offensive --personnel changes that affect that call -what do you (the DC) want to hear NOW --what do you want to hear between plays ---what do you want to hear when the offense is on the field Just think of it in teaching terms; first you have to teach vocabulary so that students can understand what you're talking about.
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 20, 2024 18:21:17 GMT -6
This would probably go better on the defensive board and I'm sure it'll get moved. 3 post noobes can't get there
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 20, 2024 8:43:11 GMT -6
Back in the Naughts, I was at a school on an epic run. We had won it all in 2008, and returned just about everybody in 2009 but a kicker and couple on the back end of the defense. We were the odds on favorite to win our third in a row, and 7 of the last 8. But we laid an egg turnover wise in the championship game to lose 17-28 to a region rival we had beat earlier in the year 17-10.
2010 rolls around, and we had graduated everyone. The rival has a bunch coming back. We face again in the regular season and we lose this time by 7. Both of us make the playoffs and advance through brackets and once again meet in the finals. This time we win by 3 TDs.
Why this story in this thread? I'm not finished....
2010 we lost the 1st matchup. The very next week we get a transfer.... from the other school. He didn't play against us in that game, but we had seen him some on film -- played a little HBack, a little LB. He enrolls; he had made a 'bonafide move' into our district (that's what our League calls an acceptable move/transfer).
He ends ups being a starter at LB for us in the finals in which we beat his old team. So he won back to back rings from two different teams that played each other both years.
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 17, 2024 7:16:29 GMT -6
Hello coaches, I am at a small private school of just around 325 students. We are notorious for starting school very early in August and this year we won't be able to have true 2-a-days because of how the school calendar falls. Normally we have gone 3pm-8pm , 2 hours on, 1 hour off, 2 hours on but that won't be possible this year since the kids will be in school from 8:00am-2:30pm. Just out of curosity, how would you structure your pre-season? Mind you as well, we bus our kids to our practice field which is 1.5 miles away and rent our home field so we don't have the luxury of just walking outside our school building to practice. We do have a big patch of propert we could do a walk through on but not a full practice. We have approximately 35 kids on varsity and another 25-30 on JV. We have been fortuante to be successful, winning 2 state titles in the last 10 years but this is the earliest we have ever started school. I know there is guys out there who don't even do 2-a-days anymore so I am curious to hear your thoughts. thanks in advance, Kyle we haven't done 2-a-days since about forever.... seriously, it's been at least 10-12 years or more why would you need to do them? -conditioning? -install? -team building? -because you've always done them?
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 14, 2024 7:31:12 GMT -6
Don't think minutes, think reps. Another thing to think about is GAME reps. The practice reps should reflect the amount of game reps.
If you want to do minutes, then schedule it that way.
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 13, 2024 9:13:52 GMT -6
school is 180 days for kids teachers work 190 days, our pay rate is basically figured on a daily rate - guidance counselors might be on a 200 day contract, so figure what their annual salary would be divide by 190, then add the daily rate time 10 more days so basically I have not a 190 day contract, but a 205 day contract..... plus supplement which is just for the 'season' That's nice. In Illinois, as far as my experience was concerned, you just got a % of the starting base pay for a teacher. Usually it was 15% for head football coach. Assistant was usually 10%. So, if your district started at $40k, and your % is 15, you're getting paid $6k to be HC and $4500 to be an assistant. I think the most I ever got paid to be a HC was around $7k because the district paid extra % based on longevity and I'd been coaching 19 years at that point. They really wanted me, so they gave me the % for a 20 year coach. Also, no place I ever worked had a base pay of $40k when I worked there. In SC the state sets the base, minimum pay for teachers and then each district can add. The formula is a bit convoluted because the of the all legislation that has been passed to fund education. At the state level there is based pay, then added to that is EIA supplement (1980 penny sales tax -Education Improvement Act- that boosted pay, but also added days to the calendar, and other things) that is added to the base, AND then districts add their own supplements (if they do)
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 13, 2024 7:36:49 GMT -6
The thing that makes the difference is that we get days. I get 15 now. What do you mean days? school is 180 days for kids teachers work 190 days, our pay rate is basically figured on a daily rate - guidance counselors might be on a 200 day contract, so figure what their annual salary would be divide by 190, then add the daily rate time 10 more days so basically I have not a 190 day contract, but a 205 day contract..... plus supplement which is just for the 'season'
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 13, 2024 7:14:53 GMT -6
No doubt that upstate SC pays really well. As Asst. in the upstate probably makes as much or more than I do as a HC in NC. And I dont have one of the worst paying HC jobs in NC. The thing that makes the difference is that we get days. I get 15 now.
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 12, 2024 18:52:38 GMT -6
I'll say this once again, based on statements here I'm almost embarrassed what I make... almost
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 7, 2024 23:51:37 GMT -6
highly suggest any thread you're vested in that you tag it as a bookmark.
Saves lots of typing and searching.
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 7, 2024 22:08:19 GMT -6
Do yall still utilize them? We do but we have seen an increase of injuries in the last few years. I am interested in what you guys think. thank goodness, no
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 3, 2024 16:40:03 GMT -6
Its designed specifically for the drills and techniques Pete Jenkins teaches. Bags are all shaped specific ways to encourage hand placement and supination, etc. It's not really a sled in a traditional sense, because it's not designed to be pushed. Its really designed to train striking and whatnot. rogersathletic.com/products/5-x-2-jenkins-eagle-sled/I'd love to see it in action ...... sounds like a good pick anyone near me have 1?
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 3, 2024 16:37:23 GMT -6
Its designed specifically for the drills and techniques Pete Jenkins teaches. Bags are all shaped specific ways to encourage hand placement and supination, etc. It's not really a sled in a traditional sense, because it's not designed to be pushed. Its really designed to train striking and whatnot. rogersathletic.com/products/5-x-2-jenkins-eagle-sled/I'd love to see it in action ...... sounds like a good pick
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