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Post by coachorr on Nov 15, 2019 12:24:55 GMT -6
Some great points and ideas. I like the hay bale fundraiser. Does someone just donate the bales or do you guys just add a dollar or two to each bale? Same with the pigs. Do you pay for them as piglets and someone volunteers to raise them for you? As far as the not getting a full look/ 11 on 11, I get that you're not always going to get a great look, but can't you just "thud up"? My current school, we have around 100 kids, but we never go to the ground. It is a way that we have been able to get a full look, without risking injury. As others have said, it's not about full contact practice so much as it is lacking the numbers to even go 11 on 11 AND also having insane mismatches or incompetence on scout that make it more of a liability than a tool. You can mitigate the lack of numbers somewhat by focusing on half-line and group periods, which is what you have to do, but you still wind up with stuff like running 7 on 7 with OL as DBs or doing an inside run drill with WRs as OL. Not only are the players physically mismatched (and usually you're stuck relying on some who can't read a scout card or be trusted to even go the right direction), but they don't know the techniques of the scout positions they're playing and it gives a terrible practice look. In some of the places in our state that are 6-12 or K-12, the "JV" may actually be MS kids and you might even have 8th graders starting on varsity out of necessity. Now picture how weak the non-starters must be to not be able to beat out the 8th grade/freshman starters and picture those kids getting clobbered by your better senior players each day. Then you get the days where you come to practice and you don't have a single QB, or you run a 4-3 defense but only have 1 LB there that day. Then the next day you're missing 3 of the 7 healthy OL you've got. Etc. It gets frustrating. Truth. Having underclassmen run the scout team is hard. Never get a look.
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Post by coachcb on Nov 15, 2019 13:10:58 GMT -6
As others have said, it's not about full contact practice so much as it is lacking the numbers to even go 11 on 11 AND also having insane mismatches or incompetence on scout that make it more of a liability than a tool. You can mitigate the lack of numbers somewhat by focusing on half-line and group periods, which is what you have to do, but you still wind up with stuff like running 7 on 7 with OL as DBs or doing an inside run drill with WRs as OL. Not only are the players physically mismatched (and usually you're stuck relying on some who can't read a scout card or be trusted to even go the right direction), but they don't know the techniques of the scout positions they're playing and it gives a terrible practice look. In some of the places in our state that are 6-12 or K-12, the "JV" may actually be MS kids and you might even have 8th graders starting on varsity out of necessity. Now picture how weak the non-starters must be to not be able to beat out the 8th grade/freshman starters and picture those kids getting clobbered by your better senior players each day. Then you get the days where you come to practice and you don't have a single QB, or you run a 4-3 defense but only have 1 LB there that day. Then the next day you're missing 3 of the 7 healthy OL you've got. Etc. It gets frustrating. Truth. Having underclassmen run the scout team is hard. Never get a look.
Even simple INDY drills can be severely disrupted if you have a few key kids out... We ended up pulling two of our better backs/LBs over during OL Indy for a bit so that we could adequately rep combo blocks as well as blitz pick up. Our OL benefited from it (which meant that the backs did) but we had to hold the backs after practice for a bit to get our timing on schemes back.
Operating under those practice conditions is tough when you have teams in the division with 50+ kids on their roster. They might not get the best scout team looks from their JV but at least they actually get a good, safe look...
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Post by freezeoption on Nov 15, 2019 16:41:27 GMT -6
I wasn't trying to sound like a jerk but after reading my post I look pretty jerkish. I've been to small rural schools. Rural schools. Suburban schools and city schools. Everyone of them had different challenges. I was trying to say the only way to know is to go and try. One thing I learned after all these years, don't leave a place you like for one you don't know anything about.
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