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Post by gamecock303 on Nov 7, 2019 14:09:48 GMT -6
Andrews definitely gets the short end of the stick in this situation, although was what Oceanside did really that big of a deal? I mean I dont see how it was cheating, although obviously it broke the rules. playing JV kids (especially in a 70-0 game, which could have easily been worse) isn't that big of a deal by itself other than the fact that it is breaking the rules that other teams are following. But there are other issues in play here including the fact that this is the second time this year that Oceanside has been caught breaking rules and other teams in the past have been kicked out of the playoffs for playing ineligible players. it is also worth consideration that Oceanside is also not really playing on a level playing field as it is. As a charter school it isn't held to the same attendance zones as the rest of the school and from my understanding their kids only spend like 4 hours a day in class and have the rest of the time to focus on athletics (part of the selling point that the school uses to attract students). They compete in a region with 2 inner city schools, a newer school that has yet to have a graduating class (I believe this year will be their first), and a rural school with a really good football tradition but not a whole lot in the way of resources (at least that was the way it was when I graduated from there, minus the tradition that had not yet been established) and they compete (or should I say choose to compete since they get to cap their enrollment numbers which other schools don't really get to do) in a class that is dominated by rural schools in small towns most of whom have seen jobs leave in droves over the past few decades. Just to give a little more insight into how stacked the deck already is in Oceanside's favor they probably have close to twice the number of kids on their varsity roster than the next biggest team in their region (I've been told they had 22 seniors alone this year while my alma mater probably has between 30-35 kids that dress each week).
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Post by tomarsh on Nov 7, 2019 15:07:39 GMT -6
Southern California, Southern Section- Play 10 games regular season. About 1/2 the teams make playoffs in mostly 16 team brackets (although there is one 8-team bracket for the top schools). All told there are 14 divisions that are predicated by how good you were the last two years. Winning this makes you CIF champ, which is essentially a state championship (get a ring and trophy, etc. So basically if you have a small school that is really good we keep moving you up to play bigger schools until they find a level where you lose at, then they move you back down. If you are a big school that doesn't win they move you down to play small schools in the playoffs where you might win. After the playoffs the 14 division winners mix in with winners from other so-cal regions. Then all these winners are paired off by similar ability levels to play in a State Semi-Final bowl game. If you win this you play a team from northern California who basically did the same thing. Its a bunch of nonsense designed to make money for CIF So how many total games will be played for a team that makes it to a bowl game?
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Post by carookie on Nov 7, 2019 17:27:12 GMT -6
Southern California, Southern Section- Play 10 games regular season. About 1/2 the teams make playoffs in mostly 16 team brackets (although there is one 8-team bracket for the top schools). All told there are 14 divisions that are predicated by how good you were the last two years. Winning this makes you CIF champ, which is essentially a state championship (get a ring and trophy, etc. So basically if you have a small school that is really good we keep moving you up to play bigger schools until they find a level where you lose at, then they move you back down. If you are a big school that doesn't win they move you down to play small schools in the playoffs where you might win. After the playoffs the 14 division winners mix in with winners from other so-cal regions. Then all these winners are paired off by similar ability levels to play in a State Semi-Final bowl game. If you win this you play a team from northern California who basically did the same thing. Its a bunch of nonsense designed to make money for CIF So how many total games will be played for a team that makes it to a bowl game? 16 Possible for most schools 10 (Regular Season) + 4 (CIF Playoffs) + 2 (Regional & State Bowl). Although When Mater Dei plays De La Salle they will have played a few less. The very best teams kind of get their own smaller playoff bracket so teams close to the top won't have the frustration of losing to them. For the very best their season will look like: 10 (Regular Season) + 3 (CIF Playoffs) + 1 (State Bowl)=14
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