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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 17, 2019 10:42:29 GMT -6
This season we were having the players wear helmets and shoulder pads only on Friday, full gear the rest of the week, but we were finding the kids weren't taking Friday's practice as seriously -- mentally slacking. So we went to full gear every practice, and that seems to have helped. Same drills, just full gear instead of shells. Something psychologic about having to pad up that says practice is serious, such that if you don't, it's not.
However, that was with 11Us. Older players may have a different attitude toward practice.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 17, 2019 10:57:56 GMT -6
Coached one year for a guy and from the start of fall camp on we never wore shoulder pads on offense. We would go pants and helmets only. Only blocked bags in team or I/S run. When varsity switched over to the defensive part of practice they put their shoulder pads on. That is odd. How did that work? What was the reason? I like the offense to have pads on not just to fit blocks correctly, but to have qbs throw in pads and receivers catch in pads. Both are a little different. I wouldn't do it just because I wouldn't want the disruption of putting pads on in the middle of practice. Ha
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Post by mrjvi on Oct 17, 2019 11:15:57 GMT -6
Bob-Older kids are largely the same as the 11U. I do have to "get their attention" sometimes on Fridays.
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Post by carookie on Oct 17, 2019 11:27:37 GMT -6
Coached one year for a guy and from the start of fall camp on we never wore shoulder pads on offense. We would go pants and helmets only. Only blocked bags in team or I/S run. When varsity switched over to the defensive part of practice they put their shoulder pads on. That is odd. How did that work? What was the reason? I like the offense to have pads on not just to fit blocks correctly, but to have qbs throw in pads and receivers catch in pads. Both are a little different. I wouldn't do it just because I wouldn't want the disruption of putting pads on in the middle of practice. Ha Had a kid come out this year who was a flag QB superstar, but took him a while to figure out how to throw in pads. Even after he got used to it we'd keep shoulder pads on him for walk through days just so he kept accustomed
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Post by fadepattern on Oct 17, 2019 11:29:56 GMT -6
Coached one year for a guy and from the start of fall camp on we never wore shoulder pads on offense. We would go pants and helmets only. Only blocked bags in team or I/S run. When varsity switched over to the defensive part of practice they put their shoulder pads on. That is odd. How did that work? What was the reason? I like the offense to have pads on not just to fit blocks correctly, but to have qbs throw in pads and receivers catch in pads. Both are a little different. I wouldn't do it just because I wouldn't want the disruption of putting pads on in the middle of practice. Ha It was a different experience. He was a big believer in staying healthy during the season. I was skeptical but we went 11-2 and lost in the quarterfinals. Also set a school record for points scored. Except for spring practice we NEVER went live in practice. We also only practiced our passing game on air. Never used DB's (No 7v7). During I/S run we blocked bags and the receivers practiced stalk blocking on air. We were really talented and ran a wing-t/wishbone combo offense that was hard to defend.
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 17, 2019 19:52:35 GMT -6
Next, when we are full pads and going "thud", some dumb butt kid still goes a little harder and next thing you know a play is live for one person and thud for 21 others and that is a danger. That doesn't happen in shells. Why doesn't that happen in shells? How does wearing shells eliminate the moron quotient of that dumb butt kid? I would be more worried that what you described would indeed happen in shells than gear.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 17, 2019 20:11:18 GMT -6
Next, when we are full pads and going "thud", some dumb butt kid still goes a little harder and next thing you know a play is live for one person and thud for 21 others and that is a danger. That doesn't happen in shells. Why doesn't that happen in shells? How does wearing shells eliminate the moron quotient of that dumb butt kid? I would be more worried that what you described would indeed happen in shells than gear. Ummmmmm, Because we are NEVER all out live in shells. Sure a kid can be an idiot anytime, but shells certainly reduce the probability.
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 17, 2019 20:15:14 GMT -6
Why doesn't that happen in shells? How does wearing shells eliminate the moron quotient of that dumb butt kid? I would be more worried that what you described would indeed happen in shells than gear. Ummmmmm, Because we are NEVER all out live in shells. Sure a kid can be an idiot anytime, but shells certainly reduce the probability. But aren't you now asking them to somehow collectively operate at the same sub max level?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 6:49:17 GMT -6
Ummmmmm, Because we are NEVER all out live in shells. Sure a kid can be an idiot anytime, but shells certainly reduce the probability. But aren't you now asking them to somehow collectively operate at the same sub max level? we are in shells all time now. One simple rule: STAY OFF THE GROUND!!! That means keep yourself and your teammates off the ground.
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Post by boug on Oct 18, 2019 10:39:08 GMT -6
Monday is just helmet after film with walk through of off/def we will see that week Tuesday is full pad but we use knee pads and let the kids where their shorts over the girdle--They love this Wed is the same as Tuesday Thursday is walk through just in helmet Friday---Game
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Post by dblwngr on Oct 18, 2019 11:18:33 GMT -6
This is the first year we've gone with shells other than Tuesdays and some weeks when we're banged up, we go shells all week.
I thought our HC was crazy when he told the staff about going with shells but we're 6-0 and everything seems to be as normal as most other years so maybe it's not as bad of an idea as I thought!
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Post by knight9299 on Oct 23, 2019 10:30:53 GMT -6
Mon: Shells but not to the ground Tues: Full to the ground but with a quick whistle Weds: helmets walk through Thurs: shells full contact but not to the ground Fri: Game day You walk through Wednesday and thud thursday? Any reasoning behind this?
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Post by chainbucket on Oct 23, 2019 11:28:10 GMT -6
Yes its based on Olympic training methods, Olympic athletes typically undergo a high intensity training session for 60-65 minutes the day before a competition. The reasoning behind it, without getting into too much science, is that the nerves that control muscles adapt to a high intensity workout. This adaptation increases the frequency and intensity(strength) with which a muscle can contract. The adaptation begins reversing itself after 24 hours and is mostly a lost after 48. Because of the nature of contact and the muscles involved we chose to implement this strategy. While the evidence is anecdotal we have noticed difference in how we play, especially in how we start the game.
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Post by IronmanFootball on Oct 23, 2019 11:32:41 GMT -6
I am a big fan of shells + vb knee pads and girdle w/ your shorts every day. Wash their knee pads, girdle, shirt, shorts and p jersey for them. Eliminates excuses.
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