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Post by arkansasdave1 on Oct 9, 2019 12:28:08 GMT -6
Anyone ever coached a team or been apart of a team that just wears helmet/shoulder pads for practice (about halfway through season)?
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Post by silkyice on Oct 9, 2019 12:45:54 GMT -6
Anyone ever coached a team or been apart of a team that just wears helmet/shoulder pads for practice (about halfway through season)? We only go full pads once a week. Shells all other days including Thursdays. We are shells everyday this week because we are beat up. 3 of 4 starting d lineman out. 4th one playing on a bum ankle. RB with 530 yards total the last two weeks has a bum ankle also.
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Post by carookie on Oct 9, 2019 13:34:30 GMT -6
Ive been a part of a lot of teams that do this. I don't care for it though because why not where girdle and knee pads too? Most kids end up wearing them under their gym shorts any how.
If its a matter of reducing contact why not just have them keep the extra protection of the girdle and knee pads and then tell them we are not fully tackling? We always get banged knees, or someone tripping and landing on their tailbone on SHell days.
If we are going light then we do no shoulder pads, that to me becomes a better way to limit contact.
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Post by RnS-OC on Oct 9, 2019 23:17:53 GMT -6
We run our first and last practices of the week in helmets, and will go fully padded once a week with top halfs and helmets on any remaining days. It’s mostly about self-preservation and limiting contact.
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Post by coachscdub on Oct 9, 2019 23:53:23 GMT -6
The varsity's that i've been around seem to go shells the majority of the regular season, with full pads during summer.
My current school goes full pads Tuesday and Wednesday, my old school went full pads only once a week.
I coach the Frosh level and we tend to be in full pads Mon-Wed with games on Thursday, no pads on Friday.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 10, 2019 4:36:27 GMT -6
Anyone ever coached a team or been apart of a team that just wears helmet/shoulder pads for practice (about halfway through season)? We only go full pads once a week. Shells all other days including Thursdays. We are shells everyday this week because we are beat up. 3 of 4 starting d lineman out. 4th one playing on a bum ankle. RB with 530 yards total the last two weeks has a bum ankle also. Shells include our girdle. We just don't have knee pads.
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Post by eric486 on Oct 10, 2019 4:51:31 GMT -6
We have just used shells and girdles for the past 5 years. We have had no injuries due to only wearing shells in practice. We also do not tackle people to the ground during practice, just preach wrap up, drive, and attack the football.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 5:01:13 GMT -6
That is all we are in now. I believe going to the ground in practice is wasting time. As muscle memory takes hold, less and less need to be in full gear.
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Post by newhope on Oct 10, 2019 6:21:28 GMT -6
Anyone ever coached a team or been apart of a team that just wears helmet/shoulder pads for practice (about halfway through season)? We haven't put on full pads since preseason. We won't put on full pads the rest of the way. We wear helmets, shoulder pads and on most days, girdles and shorts. We're not taking anyone to the ground, we don't need knee pads. Knee pads are almost non-existent now anyhow. Don't see the point in putting on pants just so we can have knee pads.
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Post by agap on Oct 10, 2019 7:09:48 GMT -6
We used to go shells (which includes girdle) everyday. I liked it. Now we are only full pads one day per week. Our practices are just as physical whether we go full pads or shells.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 7:40:19 GMT -6
I love going shells only for the entire season. I prefer the kids wear girdles because we teach hawk tackling, but we mainly do that one bags and rings.
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Post by aceback76 on Oct 10, 2019 7:45:29 GMT -6
Anyone ever coached a team or been apart of a team that just wears helmet/shoulder pads for practice (about halfway through season)? Be aware of "hip-pointers"!
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Post by doitforthekids on Oct 10, 2019 9:42:33 GMT -6
We hit and never take anyone to the ground in practice but still wear pants. What does wearing shells take away or conserve? We view it as a protective solution in case someone falls to the ground at some point so wear don’t tear up their knees.
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Post by olinecoach61 on Oct 10, 2019 10:10:11 GMT -6
We are uppers only all year. We don't take kids to the ground in practice. Seems to work ok for us.
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Post by newhope on Oct 10, 2019 10:44:03 GMT -6
We hit and never take anyone to the ground in practice but still wear pants. What does wearing shells take away or conserve? We view it as a protective solution in case someone falls to the ground at some point so wear don’t tear up their knees. More weight, more heat...we're in the south and with this year's temps, every little bit helps
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Post by carookie on Oct 10, 2019 10:51:26 GMT -6
We hit and never take anyone to the ground in practice but still wear pants. What does wearing shells take away or conserve? We view it as a protective solution in case someone falls to the ground at some point so wear don’t tear up their knees. Thats my line of thinking as well. You can go limited contact while wearing lowers, why not just wear them to be safe? What advantage does 'SHells' hold? You can practice the same level of contact in full gear
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Post by nicku on Oct 10, 2019 11:12:24 GMT -6
We go full pads on Tuesday only. It's "Tackle Tuesday" for us, and even then we aren't just smacking into each other for the hell of it, it's pretty controlled.
We kind of do things differently.
Mon: Shells Tues: Full pads, tackle day Wed: T-shirt, shorts helmet. Clean up alignment, personnel, responsibilities, etc. JV goes to other field to work kicking game, play polish, etc. Thurs: Shells, "thud". A lot of live 1st offense vs. 1 defense situations, kicking game, etc. JV comes in at start of school.
We copied it from another program. Since we have morning athletics, by game time at 7 on Friday, our kids hadn't had contact since around 9 am on Wednesday. It keeps them sharp mentally, we feel, and also gives us a day to implement fixes and changes in an actual practice rather than have Thursday be the wind down day.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 10, 2019 11:13:52 GMT -6
We hit and never take anyone to the ground in practice but still wear pants. What does wearing shells take away or conserve? We view it as a protective solution in case someone falls to the ground at some point so wear don’t tear up their knees. Thats my line of thinking as well. You can go limited contact while wearing lowers, why not just wear them to be safe? What advantage does 'SHells' hold? You can practice the same level of contact in full gear You aren't wrong. But our kids practice faster and better in shells (with girdle). It was also literally 97 degrees all last week. In October. And that wasn't the heat index. That was the temp. Not the high. The temp at practice! Next, when we are full pads and going "thud", some dumb butt kid still goes a little harder and next thing you know a play is live for one person and thud for 21 others and that is a danger. That doesn't happen in shells. And yes, that shouldn't happen, but it has, and I want to limit the probabilities of it happening again. But the main reason is that our kids practice better and stay healthier and fresher in shells. That could be my fault, their fault, psychological, physical, whatever. Don't care. It is what it is.
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Post by nicku on Oct 10, 2019 11:15:40 GMT -6
We hit and never take anyone to the ground in practice but still wear pants. What does wearing shells take away or conserve? We view it as a protective solution in case someone falls to the ground at some point so wear don’t tear up their knees. Seems a little weird to most people, and it's just another supply to order, but I know a few schools that wear volleyball knee pads for the knee protection when they just go shells. I don't think we will ever forgo full pads even just once a week, but some people swear by it.
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Post by nicku on Oct 10, 2019 11:17:28 GMT -6
Thats my line of thinking as well. You can go limited contact while wearing lowers, why not just wear them to be safe? What advantage does 'SHells' hold? You can practice the same level of contact in full gear You aren't wrong. But our kids practice faster and better in shells (with girdle). It was also literally 97 degrees all last week. In October. And that wasn't the heat index. That was the temp. Not the high. The temp at practice! Next, when we are full pads and going "thud", some dumb butt kid still goes a little harder and next thing you know a play is live for one person and thud for 21 others and that is a danger. That doesn't happen in shells. And yes, that shouldn't happen, but it has, and I want to limit the probabilities of it happening again. But the main reason is that our kids practice better and stay healthier and fresher in shells. That could be my fault, their fault, psychological, physical, whatever. Don't care. It is what it is. Agreed, the shells is basically a communication symbol for going lighter contact...I wish someone would have told that to the varsity linebackers when I was a freshman playing scout team QB.
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Post by newhope on Oct 10, 2019 11:36:15 GMT -6
More weight, more heat...we're in the south and with this year's temps, every little bit helps That makes sense, I coach in the Midwest and the heat isn’t as deadly. yeah, you might need the pants for warmth...a few of ours will put them on when it gets colder--but most just pull on sweats
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Post by realdawg on Oct 10, 2019 12:28:32 GMT -6
Generally speaking Monday and Wednesday shells. Tuesday full. Thursday just helmets. Been apart of teams that have just been shells all the time after preseason. Don’t have a problem either way. We do about the same thing either way. That being said last week we played a triple option team that cut DL regularly so we felt the need to go full pads all week and go live cuts. We felt that our kids were spent after that game. Now maybe it was because it was a tough physical game that we had to play really hard to win in the 4 qtr. but we felt like the full pads and the heat that week hurt our kids.
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Post by gccwolverine on Oct 10, 2019 12:37:24 GMT -6
Does anyone just go helmets? Or just go shells once a week and helmets the rest?
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Post by coachtua on Oct 10, 2019 18:27:42 GMT -6
My last stop we were full pads Tuesday and Wednesday. Tuesday was our really physical day of the week. Wednesday was pass, draw, screen day. Monday dress was determined by outcome of Fridays game. Win shells, loss full pads. Thursday was shells.
My current school we go full pads only Tuesdays. Mostly shells. Occasionally just helmets.
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Post by hornetfan63 on Oct 10, 2019 20:45:10 GMT -6
We are shells everyday. We wear pull up knee pads and most kids choose to wear the same pull up knee pads under their pants on game night as well. Have been shells since day one and we play a physical brand of football.
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Post by chainbucket on Oct 10, 2019 22:54:17 GMT -6
Mon: Shells but not to the ground Tues: Full to the ground but with a quick whistle Weds: helmets walk through Thurs: shells full contact but not to the ground Fri: Game day
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Post by airraidallday on Oct 17, 2019 5:54:01 GMT -6
We hit and never take anyone to the ground in practice but still wear pants. What does wearing shells take away or conserve? We view it as a protective solution in case someone falls to the ground at some point so wear don’t tear up their knees. In my program the coaches before me havent held kids accountable for the inventory that they hand out. I had to completely replace the knee pad inventory this year as there were none left. By only going shells and girdles everyday we don't have every 3rd kid misplacing knee pads. If we do wanna go full we just treat it like game day hand out and collect everything back that night. It seems to have worked so far as we have had much less "lost gear" this season.
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Post by gccwolverine on Oct 17, 2019 6:31:28 GMT -6
We hit and never take anyone to the ground in practice but still wear pants. What does wearing shells take away or conserve? We view it as a protective solution in case someone falls to the ground at some point so wear don’t tear up their knees. In my program the coaches before me havent held kids accountable for the inventory that they hand out. I had to completely replace the knee pad inventory this year as there were none left. By only going shells and girdles everyday we don't have every 3rd kid misplacing knee pads. If we do wanna go full we just treat it like game day hand out and collect everything back that night. It seems to have worked so far as we have had much less "lost gear" this season. "Somebody" and "Someone" must be to busy at other places to get over to yours and steal gear. I know they've both been busy at our place.
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Post by fadepattern on Oct 17, 2019 10:10:45 GMT -6
In Tennessee you can't go go three days of full padded practice in a row. We go Shells on Monday Full of Tuesday Shells on Wed Helmets only on Thurs.
Coached one year for a guy and from the start of fall camp on we never wore shoulder pads on offense. We would go pants and helmets only. Only blocked bags in team or I/S run. When varsity switched over to the defensive part of practice they put their shoulder pads on.
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Post by nicku on Oct 17, 2019 10:30:41 GMT -6
In my program the coaches before me havent held kids accountable for the inventory that they hand out. I had to completely replace the knee pad inventory this year as there were none left. By only going shells and girdles everyday we don't have every 3rd kid misplacing knee pads. If we do wanna go full we just treat it like game day hand out and collect everything back that night. It seems to have worked so far as we have had much less "lost gear" this season. "Somebody" and "Someone" must be to busy at other places to get over to yours and steal gear. I know they've both been busy at our place. At our school, "someone stole my kneepads" translates perfectly to "I left my kneepads in my pants when I put them in the wash and they fell out"...we "sell" them back when they need them for the small price of 50 push ups. Many of the seniors prefer to just get us something from Whataburger or Chick-fil-A instead of do the pushups, which is insanely weak on their end but I am not complaining.
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