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Post by blb on Aug 5, 2019 16:14:13 GMT -6
My last job I got paid the same salary all five years because it was top of their coaching scale (five years) for HFC, even though I had been a HC for 26 years before I went there.
When we went to the playoffs, won, played more games - I was losing money if you looked at it on a per hour or even weekly basis.
It was never all about money for me - I wasn't a mercenary - but in what other occupation does that happen?
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Post by fantom on Aug 5, 2019 16:31:32 GMT -6
My last job I got paid the same salary all five years because it was top of their coaching scale (five years) for HFC, even though I had been a HC for 26 years before I went there. When we went to the playoffs, won, played more games - I was losing money if you looked at it on a per hour or even weekly basis. It was never all about money for me - I wasn't a mercenary - but in what other occupation does that happen? Not only didn't our stipends go up for over decade but a couple of years ago they cut them by 25%.
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 5, 2019 16:47:29 GMT -6
b) I got tired of the zero-sum game. Someone always has to lose and someone always has to win. I find this interesting. Although not a reason why I no longer coach- I definitely think this aspect has changed my thinking about sports such as football. Maybe I am growing soft in my old age, but dealing with the population I deal with in my teaching job, I definitely see the benefits of sports with PRs vs pure win/loss games as far as validating the extra curricular ideas sports are school based sports are supposed to teach.
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Post by wolverine55 on Aug 7, 2019 14:03:14 GMT -6
I realize this thread is focusing on the coaching side of the equation, but we got our schedule today for what our five teacher work days will look like before we get students. If that's not an argument to leave teaching, I don't know what is. Mandatory Crisis Prevention Intervention training, new reading curriculum training, a session on dealing with difficult parents, two whole staff meetings, two whole afternoons of PLC meetings, a "Mandated Suicide Postevention Module" that needs to be completed, a session on "trauma informed care", Medicaid Billing Training...Ugh...
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Post by blb on Aug 7, 2019 15:11:10 GMT -6
I realize this thread is focusing on the coaching side of the equation, but we got our schedule today for what our five teacher work days will look like before we get students. If that's not an argument to leave teaching, I don't know what is. Mandatory Crisis Prevention Intervention training, new reading curriculum training, a session on dealing with difficult parents, two whole staff meetings, two whole afternoons of PLC meetings, a "Mandated Suicide Postevention Module" that needs to be completed, a session on "trauma informed care", Medicaid Billing Training...Ugh...
What are "PLC meetings"?
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 7, 2019 15:21:52 GMT -6
I realize this thread is focusing on the coaching side of the equation, but we got our schedule today for what our five teacher work days will look like before we get students. If that's not an argument to leave teaching, I don't know what is. Mandatory Crisis Prevention Intervention training, new reading curriculum training, a session on dealing with difficult parents, two whole staff meetings, two whole afternoons of PLC meetings, a "Mandated Suicide Postevention Module" that needs to be completed, a session on "trauma informed care", Medicaid Billing Training...Ugh...
What are "PLC meetings"?
In short a waste of time. PLC kind of is different at every school I work at. At my current school we have them after school on Wednesday's once or twice a month. We are broken into groups and each group has a different school improvement initiative. We are only given a half hour to meet, nothing ever really gets done, and the initiatives always seem to vanish from year to year, so something you spent all school year on might not ever be brought up again.
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Post by wolverine55 on Aug 7, 2019 15:33:37 GMT -6
Stands for Professional Learning community. Ours are more standard and curriculum based than rsmith just posted but our structure was the same about. This year there is one Monday a month where there will be no school for our PLCmeetings, including November and December which are obviously already broken up with holidays.
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 7, 2019 15:41:48 GMT -6
Stands for Professional Learning community. Ours are more standard and curriculum based than rsmith just posted but our structure was the same about. This year there is one Monday a month where there will be no school for our PLCmeetings, including November and December which are obviously already broken up with holidays. I've been at schools where they're all curriculum based as well. At this school, while they are generally pointless, this is how we get most of our district PD hours in so it really isn't all bad.
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Post by CoachJohnsonMN on Aug 7, 2019 16:06:02 GMT -6
I realize this thread is focusing on the coaching side of the equation, but we got our schedule today for what our five teacher work days will look like before we get students. If that's not an argument to leave teaching, I don't know what is. Mandatory Crisis Prevention Intervention training, new reading curriculum training, a session on dealing with difficult parents, two whole staff meetings, two whole afternoons of PLC meetings, a "Mandated Suicide Postevention Module" that needs to be completed, a session on "trauma informed care", Medicaid Billing Training...Ugh...
What are "PLC meetings"?
Something that in theory addresses student issues but in practice is a gigantic waste of time. Too much discussion....too little implementation. I liken it to a parent that joins a parenting class but spends far too much time there & their absenteeism leads to more harm than good.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 7, 2019 19:45:04 GMT -6
I realize this thread is focusing on the coaching side of the equation, but we got our schedule today for what our five teacher work days will look like before we get students. If that's not an argument to leave teaching, I don't know what is. Mandatory Crisis Prevention Intervention training, new reading curriculum training, a session on dealing with difficult parents, two whole staff meetings, two whole afternoons of PLC meetings, a "Mandated Suicide Postevention Module" that needs to be completed, a session on "trauma informed care", Medicaid Billing Training...Ugh...
What are "PLC meetings"?
People who do not know are either lucky or work in a district that uses a different acronym to spell out their own version of inefficiency.
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Post by jg78 on Aug 7, 2019 22:12:41 GMT -6
Those of you who have left coaching... what is a good profession to go into when you have been in education all your life and don't really know much about anything else and don't have any good connections? How can hard working, common sense person start over in something else?
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Post by dthumphr on Aug 8, 2019 7:55:01 GMT -6
Those of you who have left coaching... what is a good profession to go into when you have been in education all your life and don't really know much about anything else and don't have any good connections? How can hard working, common sense person start over in something else? Depends on your personality, goals, dreams, and desired lifestyle. My advice would be to take a personality test (I suggest DISC as the best measurement) and see where you fit in the job world. Because if try to go do sales but you don't have a sales personality then you will be starting all over again in a few years. Figure out what goals and lifestyle you want and add those into the equation. There's a good starting point. PM me and I will send you a free DISC test if you want.
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Post by coachjm on Aug 8, 2019 8:28:28 GMT -6
Those of you who have left coaching... what is a good profession to go into when you have been in education all your life and don't really know much about anything else and don't have any good connections? How can hard working, common sense person start over in something else? Jobs that involve interpersonal communication and presentation.... I have seen many former teachers excel in professions that utilized their ability to present and connect! Ultimately, everyday in education we practice these skills which is a skill that carries in many other more lucrative career paths, sales, consultation, training ect.... Otherwise your major area may have pathways tied, for example if you are a math teacher there are many fields (auditing, finance, ect) that you may have to do some additional training for but you likely have many needed skills fairly refined.
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Post by wingtol on Aug 8, 2019 10:16:58 GMT -6
My last job I got paid the same salary all five years because it was top of their coaching scale (five years) for HFC, even though I had been a HC for 26 years before I went there. When we went to the playoffs, won, played more games - I was losing money if you looked at it on a per hour or even weekly basis. It was never all about money for me - I wasn't a mercenary - but in what other occupation does that happen? Not only didn't our stipends go up for over decade but a couple of years ago they cut them by 25%. I split a JV salary since they only pay a HC and 1 Varsity ast (guy who gets it is a pillar of the community who has been there forever and deserves it) 23 years of coaching, DC/OL/LB coach and I don't think I cracked 2k last season. It's not about the money, but it might be about the money when I quit....
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Post by lochness on Aug 8, 2019 21:19:52 GMT -6
I got tired of the exhaustion caused by the fact that nobody was ever going to care as much as I cared.
Not the administration Not the parents Not my assistants Not the players
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 9, 2019 20:04:28 GMT -6
I got tired of the exhaustion caused by the fact that nobody was ever going to care as much as I cared. Not the administration Not the parents Not my assistants Not the players I hate to be a jerk (and honestly not trying), but this is precisely why there should be no such thing as high school football
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Post by aceback76 on Aug 9, 2019 20:21:42 GMT -6
... (other than retiring or getting fired), what likely would be the reason? Tired of parents? Higher paying job? Need more time with the family? For a good looking blonde who is rich, deaf, dumb, & over-sexed!
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Post by larrymoe on Aug 9, 2019 20:39:13 GMT -6
... (other than retiring or getting fired), what likely would be the reason? Tired of parents? Higher paying job? Need more time with the family? For a good looking blonde who is rich, deaf, dumb, & over-sexed! What did Bear Bryant or Bobby Bowden say about how to make proper love to a woman?
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Post by aceback76 on Aug 10, 2019 8:09:46 GMT -6
For a good looking blonde who is rich, deaf, dumb, & over-sexed! What did Bear Bryant or Bobby Bowden say about how to make proper love to a woman? Are you telling me you really don't know HOW? I figured your "ole pappy" told you about the "birds & bees" when you were 13-14!
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 10, 2019 11:43:59 GMT -6
What did Bear Bryant or Bobby Bowden say about how to make proper love to a woman? Do you really NEED to know? Bowden & Bryant said the same thing Bill Belichick, Dabo Swinney, & Nick Saban all say, and the same thing your "old pappy" probably told you when you were 12 = "RIDE THEM HIGH"! PS: You're welcome (if you need further help along those lines, phone me because most of what I could tell you is too "sensitive" to put online)! LOL This might be the most self-reflectively funny post i have read here
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Post by blb on Aug 10, 2019 13:21:50 GMT -6
Do you really NEED to know? Bowden & Bryant said the same thing Bill Belichick, Dabo Swinney, & Nick Saban all say, and the same thing your "old pappy" probably told you when you were 12 = "RIDE THEM HIGH"! PS: You're welcome (if you need further help along those lines, phone me because most of what I could tell you is too "sensitive" to put online)! LOL This might be the most self-reflectively funny post i have read here
Perhaps you and aceback76 don't have daughters?
Otherwise, I don't get your post.
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Post by blb on Aug 10, 2019 13:36:06 GMT -6
What did Bear Bryant or Bobby Bowden say about how to make proper love to a woman? Do you really NEED to know? Bowden & Bryant said the same thing Bill Belichick, Dabo Swinney, & Nick Saban all say, and the same thing your "old pappy" probably told you when you were 12 = "RIDE THEM HIGH"! PS: You're welcome (if you need further help along those lines, phone me because most of what I could tell you is too "sensitive" to put online)! LOL
aceback76 Your wife and children must be so proud of you.
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 10, 2019 14:39:46 GMT -6
This might be the most self-reflectively funny post i have read here
Perhaps you and aceback76 don't have daughters?
Otherwise, I don't get your post.
The reference to call on phone..which is done in many other posts...is the comedy gold whether intentional or not.
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Post by blb on Aug 10, 2019 14:44:36 GMT -6
Perhaps you and aceback76 don't have daughters?
Otherwise, I don't get your post.
The reference to call on phone..which is done in many other posts...is the comedy gold whether intentional or not.
I get it now, thanks for 'splainin'.
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 10, 2019 19:38:39 GMT -6
Perhaps you and aceback76 don't have daughters?
Otherwise, I don't get your post.
The reference to call on phone..which is done in many other posts...is the comedy gold whether intentional or not. Not putting some chit in writing is probably why he is still employed, and why some young bucks find themselves unemployed. That guy at Independence had other problems, but saying "I'm your new Hitler" is just not something you put into text.
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 10, 2019 19:43:51 GMT -6
The reference to call on phone..which is done in many other posts...is the comedy gold whether intentional or not. Not putting some chit in writing is probably why he is still employed, and why some young bucks find themselves unemployed. That guy at Independence had other problems, but saying "I'm your new Hitler" is just not something you put into text. ? Not sure what that is referring to. My jesting comment was because many of acebacks posts end with "there is way to much to discuss here, call me"
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 10, 2019 19:47:14 GMT -6
Not putting some chit in writing is probably why he is still employed, and why some young bucks find themselves unemployed. That guy at Independence had other problems, but saying "I'm your new Hitler" is just not something you put into text. ? Not sure what that is referring to. My jesting comment was because many of acebacks posts end with "there is way to much to discuss here, call me" Oh I get it, and find it funny as well. Just pointing out that he's smart for not getting too crazy on a public forum. Thinking back to DCOhio, this place got him into some trouble when someone in town had an issue with him, even though he was pretty mild.
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Post by Defcord on Aug 10, 2019 19:59:55 GMT -6
? Not sure what that is referring to. My jesting comment was because many of acebacks posts end with "there is way to much to discuss here, call me" Oh I get it, and find it funny as well. Just pointing out that he's smart for not getting too crazy on a public forum. Thinking back to DCOhio, this place got him into some trouble when someone in town had an issue with him, even though he was pretty mild. Yeah he’s safe unless the plagiarism police show up...just kidding.
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Post by lochness on Aug 11, 2019 6:27:10 GMT -6
I got tired of the exhaustion caused by the fact that nobody was ever going to care as much as I cared. Not the administration Not the parents Not my assistants Not the players I hate to be a jerk (and honestly not trying), but this is precisely why there should be no such thing as high school football You need to try harder.
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Post by nicku on Aug 11, 2019 7:53:47 GMT -6
Yep, our convocation is tomorrow. Its drag but I actually enjoy it. I get to jack around with some of my buddies that coach/work at other schools in the district...plus, its every school in the district elementary through high school, and there's some decent "talent" working at a lot of the elementary schools
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