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Post by option1 on Jul 7, 2019 5:55:36 GMT -6
Please include your District or county if they are allowed to make their own guidelines.
My state (FL) is burdened by HB 7029 signed by Rick Scott that says a student may attend whatever school they wish with such provisions as school capacity, class size and transportation.
Please consider helping one of my colleagues grass roots anti-transfer campaign by liking his transfer tweet @ebhs_D
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Post by smcauliffe54 on Jul 7, 2019 6:31:28 GMT -6
Wisconsin
Can transfer at any time until start of sophomore year. Or if you start practice with a team after freshman year before sophomore year. Like practice one practice with football then decide to transfer to school across town.
Penalty for transferring after start of sophomore year is losing one year of varsity athletic eligibility.
There are transfer waivers for certain cases. All heard and decided by wiaa
If you move and transfer you are 99.9% allowed to play for example.
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Post by PIGSKIN11 on Jul 7, 2019 16:13:57 GMT -6
California - changed a couple of years ago...
If you and your whole family move - you are instantly eligible....
Otherwise, you sit out half your season - regardless of reason...
Our state could not police it all and it was getting abused in SoCal - so they changed to this blanket policy
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Post by cpcollet on Jul 7, 2019 17:14:55 GMT -6
In Arizona, you have to sit out half of the regular season games the next season. It is a tougher penalty than it used to be but still has not been much of a deterrent for kids heading to these "destination" schools. It has got so bad that Arizona will now have an open division playoff this year. The open division will consist of the top 8 teams regardless of class in 4A-6A. This was done because it had become a foregone conclusion who would be the State champion in 4A,5A, and 6A. This way at least they will all compete in the same tournament.
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Post by wolverine55 on Jul 8, 2019 17:55:56 GMT -6
Iowa is an "open enrollment" state. To help curb transfers for strictly athletic reasons, however, I believe any transfers are ineligible for varsity competition for 90 school days unless the family relocates to within the district.
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Post by option1 on Jul 9, 2019 12:06:16 GMT -6
Iowa is an "open enrollment" state. To help curb transfers for strictly athletic reasons, however, I believe any transfers are ineligible for varsity competition for 90 school days unless the family relocates to within the district. Yes, but schools are hundreds of miles apart in the MW
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Post by fkaboneyard on Jul 9, 2019 13:57:19 GMT -6
California - changed a couple of years ago... If you and your whole family move - you are instantly eligible.... Otherwise, you sit out half your season - regardless of reason... Our state could not police it all and it was getting abused in SoCal - so they changed to this blanket policy
What if parents are divorced?
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Post by freezeoption on Jul 9, 2019 16:48:16 GMT -6
If parents are divorced in our state they get three moves I believe. Iowa forced schools to co-op if they didn't have a certain size student body.
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Post by TheFOotballCoach on Jul 12, 2019 14:52:05 GMT -6
Please include your District or county if they are allowed to make their own guidelines. My state (FL) is burdened by HB 7029 signed by Rick Scott that says a student may attend whatever school they wish with such provisions as school capacity, class size and transportation. Please consider helping one of my colleagues grass roots anti-transfer campaign by liking his transfer tweet @ebhs_D I coach in FL, and I used to have a problem with the transfers, but I’ve become used to it now. If a kid wants to go, no problem, if they want to stay, great. I wouldn’t like it if I’m losing a good player, but I’m empathetic of those who seek to put themselves in a perceived better situation. I don’t think kids and their families should be punished for moving on, while coaches, teachers, and administrators aren’t. If the grass truly isn’t greener on the other side, then they have just received their penalty when they arrive at their new location. I don’t think many in society would agree that people should be able to stop you from going to a place that you believe will make you happier, or feel is in the best interest of you and your family. Would you have any problem with little Timmy going to school B if their ROTC or marching band was a perceived better fit?
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Post by 3rdandlong on Jul 13, 2019 1:32:41 GMT -6
California - changed a couple of years ago... If you and your whole family move - you are instantly eligible.... Otherwise, you sit out half your season - regardless of reason... Our state could not police it all and it was getting abused in SoCal - so they changed to this blanket policy
What if parents are divorced?
Not considered a valid change of residence if parents divorce. Kind of a screwed up thing. You have to apply for hardships but they rarely pass. They have recently made AD’s collect a whole load of Documentation in order to prove a valid change of residence. It’s a pain but a necessary one because of all the shadiness that goes on around here.
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Post by option1 on Jul 13, 2019 4:58:09 GMT -6
Please include your District or county if they are allowed to make their own guidelines. My state (FL) is burdened by HB 7029 signed by Rick Scott that says a student may attend whatever school they wish with such provisions as school capacity, class size and transportation. Please consider helping one of my colleagues grass roots anti-transfer campaign by liking his transfer tweet @ebhs_D I coach in FL, and I used to have a problem with the transfers, but I’ve become used to it now. If a kid wants to go, no problem, if they want to stay, great. I wouldn’t like it if I’m losing a good player, but I’m empathetic of those who seek to put themselves in a perceived better situation. I don’t think kids and their families should be punished for moving on, while coaches, teachers, and administrators aren’t. If the grass truly isn’t greener on the other side, then they have just received their penalty when they arrive at their new location. I don’t think many in society would agree that people should be able to stop you from going to a place that you believe will make you happier, or feel is in the best interest of you and your family. Would you have any problem with little Timmy going to school B if their ROTC or marching band was a perceived better fit? Maybe there's more parity in your area. Kids and adults situations should not be compared, IMO. I would think that most adults make decisions base on tangibles and not perception of better opportunity based on win/loss column. However, to your point of "greener grass", I am working on a proposal right now. I want to take "perception" out of the equation. If school A. is truly better than school B then it should have to be that way on paper. If you want your kid going to a different school then declare before his freshman year. If school A has a better overall school grade, great, let them transfer. But no more transferring to get a 4 yr certificate in dental assisting when you only have 1.5 yrs left in school. No more transferring because school A only wins x number of games a year. Fact of the matter is we are one of the largest districts in the U.S. but our schools are all very similar and school grades mirror demos, and the schools with lower school grades but better sports those kids don't leave. I could go on and on but transferring can and has killed programs and needs to be addressed differently. Did you say band?
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 13, 2019 6:22:21 GMT -6
I coach in FL, and I used to have a problem with the transfers, but I’ve become used to it now. If a kid wants to go, no problem, if they want to stay, great. I wouldn’t like it if I’m losing a good player, but I’m empathetic of those who seek to put themselves in a perceived better situation. I don’t think kids and their families should be punished for moving on, while coaches, teachers, and administrators aren’t. If the grass truly isn’t greener on the other side, then they have just received their penalty when they arrive at their new location. I don’t think many in society would agree that people should be able to stop you from going to a place that you believe will make you happier, or feel is in the best interest of you and your family. Would you have any problem with little Timmy going to school B if their ROTC or marching band was a perceived better fit? Maybe there's more parity in your area. Kids and adults situations should not be compared, IMO. I would think that most adults make decisions base on tangibles and not perception of better opportunity based on win/loss column. However, to your point of "greener grass", I am working on a proposal right now. I want to take "perception" out of the equation. If school A. is truly better than school B then it should have to be that way on paper. If you want your kid going to a different school then declare before his freshman year. If school A has a better overall school grade, great, let them transfer. But no more transferring to get a 4 yr certificate in dental assisting when you only have 1.5 yrs left in school. No more transferring because school A only wins x number of games a year. Fact of the matter is we are one of the largest districts in the U.S. but our schools are all very similar and school grades mirror demos, and the schools with lower school grades but better sports those kids don't leave. I could go on and on but transferring can and has killed programs and needs to be addressed differently. Did you say band? option1 what is the difference between those students choosing to attend those schools as a Frosh, or transferring before their Jr. years with regards to creating "have and have not" programs? I guess I am asking why transfers seem to be the issue, as opposed to just open enrollment and school choice policies.
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Post by TheFOotballCoach on Jul 13, 2019 9:05:31 GMT -6
I coach in FL, and I used to have a problem with the transfers, but I’ve become used to it now. If a kid wants to go, no problem, if they want to stay, great. I wouldn’t like it if I’m losing a good player, but I’m empathetic of those who seek to put themselves in a perceived better situation. I don’t think kids and their families should be punished for moving on, while coaches, teachers, and administrators aren’t. If the grass truly isn’t greener on the other side, then they have just received their penalty when they arrive at their new location. I don’t think many in society would agree that people should be able to stop you from going to a place that you believe will make you happier, or feel is in the best interest of you and your family. Would you have any problem with little Timmy going to school B if their ROTC or marching band was a perceived better fit? Maybe there's more parity in your area. Kids and adults situations should not be compared, IMO. I would think that most adults make decisions base on tangibles and not perception of better opportunity based on win/loss column. However, to your point of "greener grass", I am working on a proposal right now. I want to take "perception" out of the equation. If school A. is truly better than school B then it should have to be that way on paper. If you want your kid going to a different school then declare before his freshman year. If school A has a better overall school grade, great, let them transfer. But no more transferring to get a 4 yr certificate in dental assisting when you only have 1.5 yrs left in school. No more transferring because school A only wins x number of games a year. Fact of the matter is we are one of the largest districts in the U.S. but our schools are all very similar and school grades mirror demos, and the schools with lower school grades but better sports those kids don't leave. I could go on and on but transferring can and has killed programs and needs to be addressed differently. Did you say band? We may have a little more parity in our area, but I’m in a large Metro area in FL too. You can’t force parity at the high school level by controlling students. They have not signed contracts, and probably shouldn’t be forced to be in a situation that may not fit them just because some people want more parity. I disagree with your assessment that this is a kids vs adult situation. For any student to change schools, it has to be a parental or family decision. Kids can’t enroll and unenroll themselves. So while a kid may influence their parents thinking, it is still the adult making the decision on what they feel is best for their child. I want to go on record and say that I am not a fan of the rampant transfers throughout our state. I’ve been on both ends, losing some really good players (D1 caliber), and gaining some really good players. I also don’t think you can force someone to be in a situation they don’t want to be in for parity. What if they made good coaches sit out a year when switching schools unless they met some arbitrary guidelines? Saying I want to be the head coach at school B because I like their tradition, administration, and community support is pretty much the same as a parent deciding to send their kid to school B because they win more, or have the reputation of being a D1 factory.
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Post by option1 on Jul 14, 2019 5:38:23 GMT -6
Maybe there's more parity in your area. Kids and adults situations should not be compared, IMO. I would think that most adults make decisions base on tangibles and not perception of better opportunity based on win/loss column. However, to your point of "greener grass", I am working on a proposal right now. I want to take "perception" out of the equation. If school A. is truly better than school B then it should have to be that way on paper. If you want your kid going to a different school then declare before his freshman year. If school A has a better overall school grade, great, let them transfer. But no more transferring to get a 4 yr certificate in dental assisting when you only have 1.5 yrs left in school. No more transferring because school A only wins x number of games a year. Fact of the matter is we are one of the largest districts in the U.S. but our schools are all very similar and school grades mirror demos, and the schools with lower school grades but better sports those kids don't leave. I could go on and on but transferring can and has killed programs and needs to be addressed differently. Did you say band? option1 what is the difference between those students choosing to attend those schools as a Frosh, or transferring before their Jr. years with regards to creating "have and have not" programs? I guess I am asking why transfers seem to be the issue, as opposed to just open enrollment and school choice policies. Because while there is that "little league" crew that thinks they have a clue, IME transfer most often happen after in one way or the other players are "identified" as being better than their current situation.
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Post by option1 on Jul 14, 2019 6:03:26 GMT -6
Maybe there's more parity in your area. Kids and adults situations should not be compared, IMO. I would think that most adults make decisions base on tangibles and not perception of better opportunity based on win/loss column. However, to your point of "greener grass", I am working on a proposal right now. I want to take "perception" out of the equation. If school A. is truly better than school B then it should have to be that way on paper. If you want your kid going to a different school then declare before his freshman year. If school A has a better overall school grade, great, let them transfer. But no more transferring to get a 4 yr certificate in dental assisting when you only have 1.5 yrs left in school. No more transferring because school A only wins x number of games a year. Fact of the matter is we are one of the largest districts in the U.S. but our schools are all very similar and school grades mirror demos, and the schools with lower school grades but better sports those kids don't leave. I could go on and on but transferring can and has killed programs and needs to be addressed differently. Did you say band? We may have a little more parity in our area, but I’m in a large Metro area in FL too. You can’t force parity at the high school level by controlling students. They have not signed contracts, and probably shouldn’t be forced to be in a situation that may not fit them just because some people want more parity. I disagree with your assessment that this is a kids vs adult situation. For any student to change schools, it has to be a parental or family decision. Kids can’t enroll and unenroll themselves. So while a kid may influence their parents thinking, it is still the adult making the decision on what they feel is best for their child. I want to go on record and say that I am not a fan of the rampant transfers throughout our state. I’ve been on both ends, losing some really good players (D1 caliber), and gaining some really good players. I also don’t think you can force someone to be in a situation they don’t want to be in for parity. What if they made good coaches sit out a year when switching schools unless they met some arbitrary guidelines? Saying I want to be the head coach at school B because I like their tradition, administration, and community support is pretty much the same as a parent deciding to send their kid to school B because they win more, or have the reputation of being a D1 factory. We can agree to disagree. Transfers are a much larger issue than parity, which I didn't say I wanted. I want everyone to win and lose with their kids. I don't believe entire schools, programs, and, communities should suffer because of transfers affect a teams ability to compete. I've been a part of that very scenario and it still lives (see Leto High School history). Transfers are a safety issue. Say what you want about this being a "coaches responsibility" but transfers not only have an affect on quality it affects numbers. Obviously the ones that leave won't be on your roster but if they are good, and can help your team compete then more kids want to play. In this scenario teams don't need to put kids on the field the entire game. There is no "kids vs. adults..." And you are correct, it takes an adult to sign off. This comes up because just as you did, people love to say "well if a coach (adult)..." And just as the example I gave about tangibles, good administrations are tangible! These are important to an adults career and livelihood. Coaches live and experience these situations daily. Meanwhile we have people making decisions (transfers) based on nothing but Friday night. This is the point about if another school is better and Joey wants to go there, then the school actually has to be better! Please, help me in my cause. Explain what "type of situation" may not fit a 15 - 18 year old? Exclude anything involving academics because I'm all for that.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 14, 2019 7:08:32 GMT -6
We can agree to disagree. Transfers are a much larger issue than parity, which I didn't say I wanted. I want everyone to win and lose with their kids. I think your language here subconsciously subverts your argument that it is not "kids vs adults" By using the term "their kids" you are essentially saying that because a kid grows up in a certain part of a certain area code (or even just happens to be living in that location when they hit 9th grade) that their skills, talents, and gifts somehow belong to that particularly school and are for the express use of the adults in that school? You can't paint it any other way, that is what you mean. I will be honest here, I think saying that students in schools (particularly those that aren't participating in the sport in question) and communities as a whole are "suffering" because a few talented 17 year olds decide they would rather attend a different school is a bit hyperbolic. I see this a lot (numbers being considered a safety issue) but honestly I think it is a red herring. You only play 11 at a time, and most teams are not playing many more than 15-16 kids that much. Even if a team is playing 22 starters and a smattering of different kids in special teams, they are still only playing maybe 30 kids until the game is decided. I believe that the injuries that occur "with low numbers" generally reflect the fact that a low number program has other deficiencies (causing the low numbers) and therefore the kids are physically weaker. If you are saying it is a safety issue because the transfers are leaving you with an entire squad of kids that aren't physically mature enough to play at the level their schedule dictates--well that may indicate that said school simply doesn't field a program capable of competing at that level and should look to play some type of independent schedule. I think there absolutely is a kids vs adults angle here and why shouldn't those things be compared? Why should the fact that a kid lives on Harrison street mean that he "has" to go to School A even though things aren't working out for him? But a coach who is offered a "better" job is free to do so? Why aren't those the same? If you are going to assert that schools and communities "suffer" because Johnny decided he wanted to transfer to Jefferson High after a few years of Lincoln, then it MUST hold true that Johnny and his family would "suffer" by staying at Lincoln. Just another step closer and more examples of why it may not be bad for US sports to leave the school system. And trust me, I feel your frustration. Louisiana is going through a very frustrating time right now, with separate playoff systems for "non select" (public) and "Select" (private and a few public schools with select admissions" teams. Of course, nothing is simple and it has become apparent that many "non-select" teams that have dominated recently pretty much operate just like the private schools regarding the ability to enroll anyone. Also, I just think the country as a whole is experience a period of growing inequality (have/have not) in all sorts of areas. A mindset that "if I am not first, it isn't worth it" is growing. There is a mind shift on the concept of competing and playing, as demonstrated by the college football transfer portal. That won't change, as it has shifted power to the individual. Generally once this happens, it never goes back. Lastly, I wish I could help you with Louisiana's transfer policy, but I honestly have no clue anymore. It used to be if you attended a school out of your "attendance zone" you had to sit a year. If you moved into the new zone, you were eligible immediately.
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Post by TheFOotballCoach on Jul 14, 2019 14:36:38 GMT -6
We may have a little more parity in our area, but I’m in a large Metro area in FL too. You can’t force parity at the high school level by controlling students. They have not signed contracts, and probably shouldn’t be forced to be in a situation that may not fit them just because some people want more parity. I disagree with your assessment that this is a kids vs adult situation. For any student to change schools, it has to be a parental or family decision. Kids can’t enroll and unenroll themselves. So while a kid may influence their parents thinking, it is still the adult making the decision on what they feel is best for their child. I want to go on record and say that I am not a fan of the rampant transfers throughout our state. I’ve been on both ends, losing some really good players (D1 caliber), and gaining some really good players. I also don’t think you can force someone to be in a situation they don’t want to be in for parity. What if they made good coaches sit out a year when switching schools unless they met some arbitrary guidelines? Saying I want to be the head coach at school B because I like their tradition, administration, and community support is pretty much the same as a parent deciding to send their kid to school B because they win more, or have the reputation of being a D1 factory. We can agree to disagree. Transfers are a much larger issue than parity, which I didn't say I wanted. I want everyone to win and lose with their kids. I don't believe entire schools, programs, and, communities should suffer because of transfers affect a teams ability to compete. I've been a part of that very scenario and it still lives (see Leto High School history). Transfers are a safety issue. Say what you want about this being a "coaches responsibility" but transfers not only have an affect on quality it affects numbers. Obviously the ones that leave won't be on your roster but if they are good, and can help your team compete then more kids want to play. In this scenario teams don't need to put kids on the field the entire game. There is no "kids vs. adults..." And you are correct, it takes an adult to sign off. This comes up because just as you did, people love to say "well if a coach (adult)..." And just as the example I gave about tangibles, good administrations are tangible! These are important to an adults career and livelihood. Coaches live and experience these situations daily. Meanwhile we have people making decisions (transfers) based on nothing but Friday night. This is the point about if another school is better and Joey wants to go there, then the school actually has to be better! Please, help me in my cause. Explain what "type of situation" may not fit a 15 - 18 year old? Exclude anything involving academics because I'm all for that. If you say good administrations are tangible, would you also say good coaches are tangible? If a kid wanted to leave to get better coaching, is that ok? I know coaches who have switched schools because the new principal was a dick, and always on their back. Are you advocating that the coach should have to stay? What if a kid wants to be a QB, but school A needs him to play WR to be more competitive. Is he wrong if he wants to go to school B to get the opportunity to play QB? If you prefer kids go to the schools in their community, do you feel the same about coaches? Should a coach have to coach at the closest school to him/her? There are 5 or 6 schools that are currently closer to my home than the school I coach at. Do you think its fair for me to have to coach at the one that is in my community? If I am a great coach and choose to coach at a school across town am I hurting my community as you say the player would be doing for making the same decision? I think using the safety issue is a huge reach. If so, do you think a school should shut down its program if they lose one or two studs to another team? If its a safety issue, why as an adult would you be willing to put the kids at risk in the said program? I'm just playing devil's advocate right now, and while I dislike all of the movement, my position is that you can't hold people to different standards and think you're being fair.
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Post by klaby on Jul 29, 2019 13:22:40 GMT -6
Safe to say that this issue is a touchy one for all. But I ask you this, are you forced to stay where you hate it?
"hey your a great WR, best in the county, but you live X and here at X we run single wing son, we throw the ball 3-4 times a game". Is this what is best for the kid?
Answer it like a parent, not like a coach.....what would you do as a parent? Would you as a dad, really look your kid in the eye and say "stay at X"....would you really??
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 5, 2019 6:48:17 GMT -6
Looks like the idea of transfers at will is trickling UP from HS to the college ranks.
Speaks volumes about the recruiting process
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Post by canesfan on Oct 6, 2019 13:42:15 GMT -6
Safe to say that this issue is a touchy one for all. But I ask you this, are you forced to stay where you hate it? "hey your a great WR, best in the county, but you live X and here at X we run single wing son, we throw the ball 3-4 times a game". Is this what is best for the kid? Answer it like a parent, not like a coach.....what would you do as a parent? Would you as a dad, really look your kid in the eye and say "stay at X"....would you really?? I hate transfer policies. Zero reason a state athletic association should have a say in what a parent can do with their child. How is a move for athletic reasons a bad thing if it’s what the family wants? For the record we get zero transfers that are not in the foster system. We also lose zero. So maybe I’d have a different opinion if we did.
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Post by fantom on Oct 6, 2019 13:52:01 GMT -6
Safe to say that this issue is a touchy one for all. But I ask you this, are you forced to stay where you hate it? "hey your a great WR, best in the county, but you live X and here at X we run single wing son, we throw the ball 3-4 times a game". Is this what is best for the kid? Answer it like a parent, not like a coach.....what would you do as a parent? Would you as a dad, really look your kid in the eye and say "stay at X"....would you really?? I hate transfer policies. Zero reason a state athletic association should have a say in what a parent can do with their child. How is a move for athletic reasons a bad thing if it’s what the family wants? For the record we get zero transfers that are not in the foster system. We also lose zero. So maybe I’d have a different opinion if we did. Nobody says that you can't transfer. They just say that if you transfer for athletic reasons you're not eligible to play.
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Post by canesfan on Oct 6, 2019 17:22:51 GMT -6
I hate transfer policies. Zero reason a state athletic association should have a say in what a parent can do with their child. How is a move for athletic reasons a bad thing if it’s what the family wants? For the record we get zero transfers that are not in the foster system. We also lose zero. So maybe I’d have a different opinion if we did. Nobody says that you can't transfer. They just say that if you transfer for athletic reasons you're not eligible to play. Just don’t get why that should be the case. If a school is willing to take them I just don’t see who it really hurts.
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Post by fantom on Oct 6, 2019 18:03:28 GMT -6
Nobody says that you can't transfer. They just say that if you transfer for athletic reasons you're not eligible to play. Just don’t get why that should be the case. If a school is willing to take them I just don’t see who it really hurts. How about fairness? If a family makes a legitimate move, fine. If there's an academic reason for moving, of course that's OK. Transferring to play on a better team sounds OK to you? Maybe his old team would be better if he didn't transfer.
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Post by canesfan on Oct 6, 2019 21:52:08 GMT -6
Just don’t get why that should be the case. If a school is willing to take them I just don’t see who it really hurts. How about fairness? If a family makes a legitimate move, fine. If there's an academic reason for moving, of course that's OK. Transferring to play on a better team sounds OK to you? Maybe his old team would be better if he didn't transfer. Yes it does sound ok. I’m not his parent and if a parent decides that they want their kid to go to any school for any reason, I don’t feel it’s my place to stop them or punish them. How are academics a more legitimate reason that sports? Is there any school in America that graduates zero successful kids? I get school is school, but who are any of us to tell someone what they should prioritize in their child’s education? People leave for better jobs all the time. People leave jobs, towns, etc. for various reasons. Changing schools for academics, band, chess club, etc is really not much different than leaving for sports. Maybe it changes your kids future. Maybe it doesn’t. But I just don’t think anyone should tell a parent what to do with their kid as long as the kid is being taken care of (food, water, shelter). If someone wants to leave bad enough they will find a way. Maybe we should ask why they leave in the first place? I don’t have a dog in the fight. No one is moving to our town for athletics and our kids probably aren’t leaving to go somewhere else. Just have always thought it was crazy to try to prevent kids from leaving schools.
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Post by newhope on Oct 8, 2019 12:11:09 GMT -6
It doesn't matter what's in writing. They find a way to transfer and rarely is anything done about it, no matter how blatant. A team in our area picked up about half a dozen kids from a neighboring school. NADA. Another school was bringing them in from out of state. Big investigation. NADA. The powers that be don't want to mess with it.
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Post by klaby on Oct 9, 2019 11:42:10 GMT -6
Just don’t get why that should be the case. If a school is willing to take them I just don’t see who it really hurts. How about fairness? If a family makes a legitimate move, fine. If there's an academic reason for moving, of course that's OK. Transferring to play on a better team sounds OK to you? Maybe his old team would be better if he didn't transfer. Life isn't fair. I am so sick of this fairness crap. Is it fair for my kid or any kid to play on a crappy team, crappy coach, crappy scheme, with crappy support and crappy equipment, just because he lives in X town. Fair, if life was fair, squirrels would have machine guns and Hawks wouldn't F*(& them....fair. Like it or not there are good coaches and bad coaches. Why is it fair to stay in a bad coach's program? Fair....screw that, earn your salt, nothing in life is fair, and frankly the sooner we teach kids this and stop trying to make crap fair, the better off they will be when life jumps up and kicks them in the nuts, because life will and it inst fair.
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Post by gccwolverine on Oct 9, 2019 13:15:24 GMT -6
Safe to say that this issue is a touchy one for all. But I ask you this, are you forced to stay where you hate it? "hey your a great WR, best in the county, but you live X and here at X we run single wing son, we throw the ball 3-4 times a game". Is this what is best for the kid? Answer it like a parent, not like a coach.....what would you do as a parent? Would you as a dad, really look your kid in the eye and say "stay at X"....would you really?? I hate transfer policies. Zero reason a state athletic association should have a say in what a parent can do with their child. How is a move for athletic reasons a bad thing if it’s what the family wants? For the record we get zero transfers that are not in the foster system. We also lose zero. So maybe I’d have a different opinion if we did. Because generally lack on continuity in education and constant change in education is a bad thing. Kids that hop school have far less success academically then kids who stay put and aren't living the transient life style. Governments have a vested interest in ensuring the best possible educational outcomes for kids, and hoping from school to school looking for better athletic fits are contrary to what the goal of this whole thing is and should be.
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