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Post by newhope on Jun 5, 2019 8:13:28 GMT -6
I don't see it as an issue of an efficient system to grade the film--I see it as a "what's the purpose in grading" issue. As someone said above, what are you going to do when a kid makes a bad grade? It's like coming up with a grading system and a rubric for an assessment that is pure BS and serves no real purpose in the first place. If you're going to give coaches more work to do, have a purpose for it and a positive result for the program that will come from it. Otherwise it's just busy work. As a head coach, I'm not using the grades for anything. I can see from the film what needs to be corrected without a grade. So, I'm not asking my coaches to give of their time to do something I'm not putting in value in. To do so, at least in my situation, would be disrespectful to them. If you're a HC and you can't watch the film and see what is being done correctly and what isn't, and what needs to be worked on and improved, you shouldn't be a HC. If the HC is giving assistants this to do in order to make them watch film, he's fooling himself. If they're too lazy and uninvested to watch the film in the first place, they'll just BS through the grading and create bigger issues for the HC. Great post. I think grading is not the most productive use of anyone’s time and bot the mist effective tool to get better. We watch film with the team. Every play. And correct everything. Literally anything I see wrong I am going to attempt to fix. And not just for that kid, I make sure everyone is paying attention. I hate when a kid makes a mistake that I just corrected for someone else. Sometimes we watch as a team. Sometimes we watch in position groups--but it's teaching from our film. We spend a lot more time on our film being used to teach than we do on the opponent's film (at least with the kids). It's important that the coaches have gone through the film thoroughly prior to film sessions with the players--they need to know what they're going to point out to them. Our secondary coach pulls out the worst and the best from each week and makes a playlist he then uses during film session---here's what we have to get better at and here's what you're doing really well at. It makes for an effective use of his meeting time.
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Post by carookie on Jun 5, 2019 9:45:20 GMT -6
I was in a very similar position before, it wasnt as hard as you think if you have a rubric and a chart. Its just like teaching- some teachers take hours to grade, I can grade 30 essays in less than an hour (same way that AP readers do); have a grading rubric- if it meets the requirement then grade it as such. Now there are some forms we used to make things easier. Have an AC or student assistant write down all play calls during the game, then type them into an Excel file immediately after (numbered too). Send it out to all the coaches, and have columns where you can put each players number, then print up the form and use the form to grade them out (+ -, whatever you use). Heck, most mornings before films, when all the other coaches were going on about things we need to do as a program and all that bluster I was able to grade out the whole game on the paper using my phone. I'd get it copied and out to the kids before they left the weight room. As with most things the key is to know what you want to get done, pare it down to the essentials, and be organized while doing it. I don't see it as an issue of an efficient system to grade the film--I see it as a "what's the purpose in grading" issue. As someone said above, what are you going to do when a kid makes a bad grade? It's like coming up with a grading system and a rubric for an assessment that is pure BS and serves no real purpose in the first place. If you're going to give coaches more work to do, have a purpose for it and a positive result for the program that will come from it. Otherwise it's just busy work. As a head coach, I'm not using the grades for anything. I can see from the film what needs to be corrected without a grade. So, I'm not asking my coaches to give of their time to do something I'm not putting in value in. To do so, at least in my situation, would be disrespectful to them. If you're a HC and you can't watch the film and see what is being done correctly and what isn't, and what needs to be worked on and improved, you shouldn't be a HC. If the HC is giving assistants this to do in order to make them watch film, he's fooling himself. If they're too lazy and uninvested to watch the film in the first place, they'll just BS through the grading and create bigger issues for the HC. I think he had a couple reasons (at least the guys I worked for). Serial Position Effect- We tend to just remember the first few items in a list and the last few. So if you are watching film you tend to more strongly remember the first couple series and the last couple. If you are not writing down what players are doing then you are not getting an accurate assessment of their actual performance. Its similar to why I mandate students take notes in class- some of them can argue that theyll remember everything, but to a person those that wrote down notes did better. Now, as you wrote, what do you do with it. For us whenever we gave a minus grade we had to note the specific reason why. Once you have a full sheet written out you can check and see if there is consistency among the negatives- if my LBers are consistently getting minuses for having 'bad eyes' then I see what specifically to work on Also, it was used for statistical purposes in regards to all league, recruiting, etc. For certain this can be a subjective grade, and fudged to help a player's numbers, but we didnt do that. And saying a kid graded out a over 90% over the year can make a difference to some. EDIT: I'll also add that we give the grade outs to the players to note where they need to improve (just another way to add a coaching point). And, if we grade them out in time they can have the sheet with them while we review films.
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Post by bigcoach38 on Jun 5, 2019 10:21:44 GMT -6
One of my friends is a very successful head coach and his staff does not meet at all on weekends. They all are expected to watch film on Hudl, do stats, come up with gameplan ideas for the coordinators. Each coordinator has a google doc shared with the respective staff to put notes, ideas etc, they also have group texts going all weekend but get to be with their families....I LOVE THIS CONCEPT. With today's technology, this seems to be very efficient as long as everyone does their job.
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Post by buckeye7525 on Jun 5, 2019 11:35:00 GMT -6
One of my friends is a very successful head coach and his staff does not meet at all on weekends. They all are expected to watch film on Hudl, do stats, come up with gameplan ideas for the coordinators. Each coordinator has a google doc shared with the respective staff to put notes, ideas etc, they also have group texts going all weekend but get to be with their families....I LOVE THIS CONCEPT. With today's technology, this seems to be very efficient as long as everyone does their job. The last year I was an OC we did this and really liked it
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Post by coach31 on Jun 5, 2019 14:47:24 GMT -6
I grade. I’m the OC and I grade every skill kid. OL coach grades OL. I think it helps me focus on the film and prevents me from getting fixated on a play or missing something. Kids like getting a grade. It works for us. On D, our DL is the only group that grades. I don’t think our LB get a lot better during the year
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Post by fballcoachg on Jun 5, 2019 20:51:27 GMT -6
Friday-some coaches go out for a little bit Saturday-9th and JV have games back to back, 2 coaches come in w varsity for a lift and a run. Kids who need treatment get it, we don’t watch film bc we don’t find it too productive right then. Varsity kids typically stick around if JV is at home and watch for awhile. After the 9th&JV games coaches go home. No meetings. Film is shared via hudl and they work on it when they can. Sunday-No meeting, coaches are expected to do their jobs, break down film send a list of 15 plays to their position group of what they did well and what they need to work/focus on. Coaches communicate via phone and text what the plans and changes for the upcoming week are. All roles are divided up and expected to be done but there is trust that they will be done. We beleive we can do that on our own time, may not work for all but has worked for us. Do you guys watch the previous games film on Monday at all or are the kids just expected to watch the 15 play list on their own? In theory they watch it on their own...but theory is theory so we watch the clips together now on Monday. im one of 2 coaches on campus so I actually take those clips and cut them even lower, go over what we did well and what we need to improve on. Actually met with a small group of kids every other week this off-season, one of the things they said was we move on too fast. So we will now have a “correction period” in practice on Monday to walk through and drill those core 2-3 things we need to focus on improving. It’s important that these are transferable skills that we will need throughout the year so it’s going to be quality time spent. last place I was at did team film Saturday morning and coach meetings Sunday, we had great results but I don’t think that was the reason. This works well for us and our kids but we obviously need to get better with the process and communication. ive also been tinkering with making an interactive scout guide for the kids to use while watching film/to make sure they watch the clips but haven’t quite figured it out yet
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Post by coachjps on Jun 7, 2019 22:00:13 GMT -6
We usually play on Friday night (except for this upcoming season), Saturday 7:30 am - coaches meet and watch film 8:30 Kids run/lift (usually with strength coach) 9:30 Watch film w/kids 11 - Watch JV or start watching next week opponent if we have film Sunday Coaches watch and break down next opponent ( I am DC, so usually 8am to 12pm) 6pm - 8ish: Meet as a staff and Game Plan
As for grading film, I am not a big fan of it, there are only so many hours during the season.
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