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Post by fballcoachg on May 31, 2019 13:36:10 GMT -6
Looked back on the past couple of years and noticed we barely run certain offensive plays and defensive calls. What would be the magic percentage or times per game you called something before you decided it wasn’t worth carrying anymore? For instance, we only called a variation of power under 2 times per game the past 3 seasons...that’s not efficient to practice. However, we called trap 5 times per game, I think that’s good enough to keep
thoughts?
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Post by newt21 on May 31, 2019 14:23:59 GMT -6
Were the effective when you did call them? What is the reasoning behind having them in the first place? Do they exploit something the defense is specifically doing that you don't have another answer for? These are questions that should help you to find the answer you're looking for.
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Post by bleefb on May 31, 2019 16:38:50 GMT -6
Looked back on the past couple of years and noticed we barely run certain offensive plays and defensive calls. What would be the magic percentage or times per game you called something before you decided it wasn’t worth carrying anymore? For instance, we only called a variation of power under 2 times per game the past 3 seasons...that’s not efficient to practice. However, we called trap 5 times per game, I think that’s good enough to keep thoughts? I also think you have to determine WHY you weren't calling it. Was it a change in personnel from previous years, is it a play that you don't really have a belief in, was it generally unsuccessful? Most coordinators, either side of the ball, are guilty of having too much in the playbook. I've certainly been guilty of that. Generally speaking, "When in doubt, throw it out." |
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Post by fantom on May 31, 2019 16:45:44 GMT -6
Looked back on the past couple of years and noticed we barely run certain offensive plays and defensive calls. What would be the magic percentage or times per game you called something before you decided it wasn’t worth carrying anymore? For instance, we only called a variation of power under 2 times per game the past 3 seasons...that’s not efficient to practice. However, we called trap 5 times per game, I think that’s good enough to keep thoughts? I also think you have to determine WHY you weren't calling it. Was it a change in personnel from previous years, is it a play that you don't really have a belief in, was it generally unsuccessful? Most coordinators, either side of the ball, are guilty of having too much in the playbook. I've certainly been guilty of that. Generally speaking, "When in doubt, throw it out." I feel the opposite. We rarely threw anything out completely. If something doesn't fit this year it may next. That doesn't mean that we install everything that's in the playbook every year. |
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Post by coachscdub on May 31, 2019 17:20:31 GMT -6
maybe dont only look at times called, but how effective the plays were those times, and why they were effective.
One coach i heard talk, mentioned that he only called a play twice a game, but each time that play went for over 15YDS.
He studied those plays and saw that they werent fluke gains, from a blown defensive assignment or a scramble, they were actual legitimately executed plays, so he said he will now call that play more.
Similarly, he examined the plays he called most frequently, one of his plays, i think it was Power, barely averaged 3YDS, so they decided to scrap that one instead.
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Post by funkfriss on Jun 1, 2019 19:43:47 GMT -6
I think what you really need to ask yourself isn’t what you should scrap, but how much time you should invest and when you should invest that time. We have some concepts, run and pass, that are best vs certain fronts or coverages, so we may not run a certain play for three weeks and not practice it at all, then need it for the next opponent and rep it more that week.
One of the ways we get away with this is that there’s quite a bit of carryover in our plays. For example, we run multiple run plays using a down blocking scheme (Power, Power Read, Jet Read, Toss Read, GT, etc). We haven’t had a reason to run Trap recently, but it really wouldn’t be that expensive for us to put in Trap one week for an opponent if we thought it necessary b/c it would be a variation of our Down scheme.
I also agree with others who have said how effective the play is matters as well. We ran a reverse at most twice a game, but had great success with it and would never think of cutting it. Now, we didn’t practice it a ton either...
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Post by fballcoachg on Jun 1, 2019 21:50:34 GMT -6
Obviously there are reasons we have the plays in but there are only so many calls in a game. I haven’t had any issue cutting pass routes that have had historically low returns and completion.
I agree the key is how much practice time. Talking to other staff guys, we will install just so that we have it in, see what we are best ay and go from there. I just know we’ve allocated far more practice time than we should have to stuff we barely ran after game planning week to week.
I like what fantom is saying, keep the tool in the toolbox even if you don’t use it that year.
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