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Post by fshamrock on May 1, 2019 8:02:10 GMT -6
we have a few kids today signing on to play a club sport
water polo at a big university, not NCAA.....club
I played a year of inter mural rugby......never had a signing day...I feel cheated
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on May 1, 2019 8:09:32 GMT -6
Same here. Had a kid "commit" to track at a school in VA...there was no recruitment. I was confused...the kid is a senior and throws the shot 36 feet from power position. WTF
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Post by MICoach on May 1, 2019 8:58:39 GMT -6
I've posted my thoughts on D3 signings on here before...I guess if it makes the kids happy that's fine.
My school has now started letting signees bring friends to watch the signing so I had three kids out this morning, one signing and two watching.
Then a fourth asked to go watch her basketball teammate's signing, though she couldn't tell me who she was signing with when I asked...
Seniors have 9 days left, at this point I'm just trying to make sure they pass.
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Post by agap on May 1, 2019 14:00:17 GMT -6
I thought of Dan Hawkins when I first read this thread.
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Post by 19delta on May 1, 2019 17:43:07 GMT -6
I just heard a radio interview with a local kid who de-committed from one D3 school so he could go to another D3 school.
I didn't even know that was a thing...😆
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Post by larrymoe on May 1, 2019 21:12:17 GMT -6
I just heard a radio interview with a local kid who de-committed from one D3 school so he could go to another D3 school. I didn't even know that was a thing...😆 I saw a tweet yesterday of a kid saying all the D3 camps he was going to this summer so he could show them how he'll impact their programs. Ooooooooook.... |
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Post by coachd5085 on May 2, 2019 5:28:42 GMT -6
I just heard a radio interview with a local kid who de-committed from one D3 school so he could go to another D3 school. I didn't even know that was a thing...😆 If you think about it though, with the crazy rules and landscape of recruiting, it is probably one of the more accurate statements. No signing, just a commitment to show up at that school when practice starts. That is the world in which D3 operates. Recruiting until they are enrolled. |
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Post by 19delta on May 2, 2019 6:45:10 GMT -6
I just heard a radio interview with a local kid who de-committed from one D3 school so he could go to another D3 school. I didn't even know that was a thing...😆 If you think about it though, with the crazy rules and landscape of recruiting, it is probably one of the more accurate statements. No signing, just a commitment to show up at that school when practice starts. That is the world in which D3 operates. Recruiting until they are enrolled. Oh, they had already done a signing. That was all over the Twitter. |
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Post by fantom on May 2, 2019 8:39:45 GMT -6
Is it "worse" to have a signing day for a D.3 or for a juco?
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Post by fshamrock on May 2, 2019 10:37:26 GMT -6
Is it "worse" to have a signing day for a D.3 or for a juco? I don't think either is necessarily bad, but i'd say d3 is worse....Juco's you don't pay though the nose to go there at least |
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Post by fshamrock on May 2, 2019 10:46:14 GMT -6
Is it "worse" to have a signing day for a D.3 or for a juco? I don't think either is necessarily bad, but i'd say d3 is worse....Juco's you don't pay though the nose to go there at least I've probably been a little too hard on D3's the more I think about and am around education, I realize that D3's aren't really that much more of scam than any other college. So what if the kids pay private college tuition just so they can play sports, there are plenty of way dumber financial decisions being made in universities all over the country. The whole system is geared around getting money off of young and impressionable youngsters, D3's are just swimming with the current |
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Post by Defcord on May 2, 2019 11:11:13 GMT -6
Is it "worse" to have a signing day for a D.3 or for a juco? I don't think either is necessarily bad, but i'd say d3 is worse....Juco's you don't pay though the nose to go there at least I am waiting for semi-pro signing announcements. Those will be epic! |
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Post by fantom on May 2, 2019 11:27:40 GMT -6
I don't think either is necessarily bad, but i'd say d3 is worse....Juco's you don't pay though the nose to go there at least I've probably been a little too hard on D3's the more I think about and am around education, I realize that D3's aren't really that much more of scam than any other college. So what if the kids pay private college tuition just so they can play sports, there are plenty of way dumber financial decisions being made in universities all over the country. The whole system is geared around getting money off of young and impressionable youngsters, D3's are just swimming with the current But are the kids choosing to go to college strictly so that they can play football or were they going to go to college anyway but chose a college where they could play football? |
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Post by 19delta on May 2, 2019 12:25:56 GMT -6
I've probably been a little too hard on D3's the more I think about and am around education, I realize that D3's aren't really that much more of scam than any other college. So what if the kids pay private college tuition just so they can play sports, there are plenty of way dumber financial decisions being made in universities all over the country. The whole system is geared around getting money off of young and impressionable youngsters, D3's are just swimming with the current But are the kids choosing to go to college strictly so that they can play football or were they going to go to college anyway but chose a college where they could play football? In many cases, I think kids are going so they can play football. |
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Post by NC1974 on May 2, 2019 13:42:42 GMT -6
I don't like that we're all (coaches, kids, parents) in on the joke that there is nothing to sign for the D3 kids. It's like we're all taking part in the lie. I suggested we have a "college sport day" where anyone who is planning on playing in college gets a chance to wear their tshirt or whatever, take a few pics with coaches parents etc, have a cookie...I don't know. And then have a separate event for a kid who is actually signing a LOI. I chose to walk on at a program, and had someone suggested I sign a blank sheet of paper, I would have felt like a fraud. If a kid chooses to go play D3 we should be proud of him, celebrate him, and treat him with enough dignity to assume he doesn't want to fake anything. I don't know, I'm old. LOL
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Post by wolverine55 on May 2, 2019 13:49:44 GMT -6
I always point this out when this topic comes up, but remember it's not always the kids and families wanting the "glory" of a signing ceremony, the colleges like the publicity too. At a previous job, we had a kid commit to a JUCO for basketball and said he didn't want to do the "ceremony". It was the college that told him he had to.
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Post by larrymoe on May 2, 2019 15:51:28 GMT -6
I always point this out when this topic comes up, but remember it's not always the kids and families wanting the "glory" of a signing ceremony, the colleges like the publicity too. At a previous job, we had a kid commit to a JUCO for basketball and said he didn't want to do the "ceremony". It was the college that told him he had to. Not doubting you, but how can they tell you you "have" to do something? |
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Post by wolverine55 on May 2, 2019 16:15:31 GMT -6
I don’t know honestly. I just remember the kid telling me that.
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Post by fshamrock on May 6, 2019 8:05:06 GMT -6
We had a kid sign with some far flung school in february. He now has decided he's not going, when asked why he said he really just wanted to have the signing day wasn't really interested in going to the college. This seemed like a perfectly acceptable reason to him.
of course this is the same kid who played center for us and in the biggest game of the year let a mike backer run straight through the A gap in pass protection no less than 5 times
when asked what happened he said he had audibled the protection to something else that he apparently invented on the fly and didn't bother tell any other o-lineman about
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Post by fshamrock on May 6, 2019 8:10:48 GMT -6
I don't think either is necessarily bad, but i'd say d3 is worse....Juco's you don't pay though the nose to go there at least I am waiting for semi-pro signing announcements. Those will be epic! There was a guy that played for a beer league semi-pro team in the general area of my hometown this league was amazing for a number of reasons, the injuries were horrific and lot of the guys smoked cigarettes on the sideline while they were waiting to go in..anyway....he was an all time classic dude that did many hilarious things he would come into the high school weight room years after he had graduated and load up a bar with 45's all the way out until there was no room for any more....he would then do like 2 reps of barbell shrugs max effort and leave without cleaning any of it up most famously..when he was playing for the semi pro league, they had a gathering at like buffalo wild wings where there was "media" there to report on the formation of the team he wore a suit and bluetooth headset like he was at the draft, when a reporter asked him about how it felt to be playing semi pro football he replied: "I don't necessarily like the label of semi-professional, i mean it's professional football, we are getting paid, I wouldn't refer to you as a semi-professional reporter" he was awesome |
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Post by QBCoachDurham on May 6, 2019 10:30:30 GMT -6
We just had three kids sign to play baseball at an NAIA school. The best part about...none of the three have ever played baseball! Not only that, one of them is currently classified as a 10th grader because he has only one math credit. He has failed his last 5 math classes, and is currently taking 3 math classes this semester to attempt to graduate. One of the other two has a CORE GPA of 1.1 and is ranked 104 of 116 in his class. At the signing I was asked to speak at the beginning because all 3 played football for me (though 2 of the 3 quit) and I am the AD. I refused. Told the principal I wasn't getting up in front of our other athletes and lying about what a great job these kids had done.
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Post by 19delta on May 6, 2019 17:56:07 GMT -6
We just had three kids sign to play baseball at an NAIA school. The best part about...none of the three have ever played baseball! Not only that, one of them is currently classified as a 10th grader because he has only one math credit. He has failed his last 5 math classes, and is currently taking 3 math classes this semester to attempt to graduate. One of the other two has a CORE GPA of 1.1 and is ranked 104 of 116 in his class. At the signing I was asked to speak at the beginning because all 3 played football for me (though 2 of the 3 quit) and I am the AD. I refused. Told the principal I wasn't getting up in front of our other athletes and lying about what a great job these kids had done. WTF? How did your administration even allow this to proceed? |
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Post by coachd5085 on May 6, 2019 18:08:48 GMT -6
We just had three kids sign to play baseball at an NAIA school. The best part about...none of the three have ever played baseball! Not only that, one of them is currently classified as a 10th grader because he has only one math credit. He has failed his last 5 math classes, and is currently taking 3 math classes this semester to attempt to graduate. One of the other two has a CORE GPA of 1.1 and is ranked 104 of 116 in his class. At the signing I was asked to speak at the beginning because all 3 played football for me (though 2 of the 3 quit) and I am the AD. I refused. Told the principal I wasn't getting up in front of our other athletes and lying about what a great job these kids had done. WTF? How did your administration even allow this to proceed? Yet another in a long line of stories that REALLY make me think US sports need to strongly consider shifting to the club model |
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Post by QBCoachDurham on May 7, 2019 6:00:33 GMT -6
We just had three kids sign to play baseball at an NAIA school. The best part about...none of the three have ever played baseball! Not only that, one of them is currently classified as a 10th grader because he has only one math credit. He has failed his last 5 math classes, and is currently taking 3 math classes this semester to attempt to graduate. One of the other two has a CORE GPA of 1.1 and is ranked 104 of 116 in his class. At the signing I was asked to speak at the beginning because all 3 played football for me (though 2 of the 3 quit) and I am the AD. I refused. Told the principal I wasn't getting up in front of our other athletes and lying about what a great job these kids had done. WTF? How did your administration even allow this to proceed? Its all about appeasing parents. |
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