Scheme Defeats Culture Or Other Way Around - Your Thoughts Mar 14, 2019 10:20:57 GMT -6 Coach Vint, shocktroop34, and 4 more like this
Post by eagleoc on Mar 14, 2019 10:20:57 GMT -6
eagleoc , Here is what I agree with you about...
Trust. But, with some reservations. Yes, we all want our roster to believe in us as coaches, but they can believe in us without the rah-rah, culture, win one for the gipper speech. However, I am not doing anything different than you are in your program, and in all reality, we are probably doing ALOT less when it comes to all the rah-rah/culture stuff. Example - Yesterday, we installed tags off RPO on offense and another strong & weak blitz on defense, while some of our opponents (who we haven't lost to in 5 years) tweeted out that they were doing some leadership manual, trust falls, and whatever other stuff. We...were doing FOOTBALL! Yes, these opponents will beat us one day, but for now, in March, we are trying to beat them on the field. Have never seen a conference championship/playoff win/gold ball handed out for winning the culture fight.
Just finished up year 12 in this business, and I have been 13-1 and I have been 2-8 in my career, and here is the difference I notice...
The 13-1 year, yes we had 3 MID-MAJOR FBS kids (and I know that makes a difference), but we did very little when it came to the whole culture thing. We did the same drills, same lifts, same film study everyone does, but devoted our time as coaches to the office and to the players getting better in the weight room and on the field! All the leadership manual/ropes course stuff, we saw as a time that could be spent on something else, ya know like...FOOTBALL!
The 2-8 year, and yes, we still had 1 MID-MAJOR FBS kid, we spent more freaking time on culture and leadership manuals than we did studying the game, thus I got my butt out of there.
Again, respectfully disagree. My kids can watch the same amount of film, do less sprints, do less squats, less time at the field-house, and not have to hear the word "culture", and still believe they can win.
You're down 18-0, and YOUR KID excites the team...Again, has nothing to do with your coaches. I still believe that is kid led.
You're telling me that going 0-10/2-8, you don't need to spend more time on X's & O's? Come on now. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to run into Friday night with only IZ, OZ, Counter and one front, one coverage, and one blitz and hope for the best. I am going to give my kids a chance with scheme, if we get beat, ok. But, I am not going to walk off the field saying, "I wish I had more tools in my toolbox."
Again, thank you all for the responses. This has been a healthy discussion. I look forward to reading more.
Some thoughts, respectfully.
Just finished my 17th year and have spent alot of time trying to emulate some of the good teams I was apart of.
I was fortunate enough to play on 3 state championship teams in HS, 1 Runner up and 2 National Champions in College and one runner up.
Our head coaches never used the word culture once, but I can guarantee you they were thinking about it, whether you call it team climate, etc. The culture was how we did things. For example in college our coach was really big on grades and having the best GPA in the conference. I dont think the fact that we were successful off and on the field were unrelated.
I don't believe culture is the rah rah stuff you allude to. Culture is what you do everyday and what is expected in your program. Speeches are not culture. Culture is what you do and believe in. So therefore in your program, it seems, that your culture has a major emphasis on the x's and o's over all else. Nothing good or bad about that.
It sounds like your culture of accountability and kids working and knowing what is expected is already established. It is not at many schools. You saying your kids believing they can win is part of your culture. They expect to win. Once again. This is not everywhere.
My first year at our school , we found out later, the seniors joked about how bad a certain team was going to beat them. Guess what they got beat. We focused on competing and trying to learn how to win. Within a few years, we didn't get running clocked and made them play the whole game. That was a step in the right direction for our program and it did not come because we had installed new schemes. It happened because we focused on doing things the right way, hard work, trust, etc.
When we went 2-9, the year after we were 10-3, I strongly believe that it would not have mattered how much we worked on x's and o's. We weren't good, period. We had several kids on the field who we had said if one of them is on the field then we are in trouble. At one point, all 3 were on the field. We had nothing else. What i was worried about is still having the focus be on doing things the right way because i knew that the next year we would be better. I worried about teaching the younger kids and keeping them in the program and excited even though we were not good and it was a long season. The next year we were better and I believe what we did the year before paid off. And though we didn't get a trophy for culture, we did get a district championship trophy the next year. I believe that was because in the bad times we focused on the things I have discussed before.
I don't think kids need to hear the word culture. I don't know if I ever said it to them nor do you need to. Just saying culture means nothing.
Being down 18-0, i agree the kid did get our team going. This was the same kid who our whole staff had worked tirelessly on improving him as a positive leader. He was a good player and kids respected him, but when it hit the fan he crumbled and as an influencer, brought others down. I believe he was able to get the team excited because we had spend time focusing on how he responded to adversity, a focus of ours. This kid would have been on the bench pouting the year before. This was the kids we had and we had to work with what we had to make them better, not just with technique and schematically, but as individuals.
I'm not saying that you neglect the x's and o's. If you do that, you are insane. I just think that you have to make culture or whatever you want to call it a priority and focus on it.
If you can't run your main plays properly, there is no need to add more. If all you can run is 3 plays successfully that is a lot better than 6 run sub par in my opinion.
I think it is important to remember that culture is how you do things. Culture is not a cure all, but neither is a great playbook. You have to get the kids to execute both parts.
I think it also depends on your role. I think HC's need to spend the time thinking about the culture as well as the x's and o's. AC's should be more focused on x's and o's.
Just my 2 cents. Good discussion.