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Post by bigugly55 on Mar 4, 2019 22:08:43 GMT -6
Not sure if this is the right place to post, but I could use a little advice.
I’ve been at a small 3A school in my state for the last 5 years coaching offensive line. I just recently took the OL job at a large 5A school much closer to my house. I just started going over there to do drills and workouts with my new guys a couple days a week after I finish my last class period at my current school.
Here’s my dilemma, at the smaller school I’ve never had more than 20 linemen at a time. We were also a Wing T team, so I built in certain times during my Indy periods for my OC to either come take guards or tackles (we alternated groups) since some of the different OL skills in Wing T are so position specific.
At my new school I have nearly 35 linemen. It’s a mostly brand new staff and we’re still hiring a couple of coaches but I’m not sure how much help I’ll have.
What’s the best way to get a large group of guys like that moving around? I had them in 6 lines the other day and I would have a group of three lines do the drill and then the next group of 3 would go. I’d like to maximize my time and not have much standing around time, but I don’t want too many kids going at once because you can’t get eyes on all of them and have wasted reps. I’m excited about my new job and these kids were doing a good job of picking up the things I showed them.
Thanks for any help. I’m definitely learning that it’s going to take some coaching adjustments jumping up in school size.
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Post by coachscdub on Mar 5, 2019 1:43:41 GMT -6
Hey coach, i would recommend looking up the TFS OL video on youtube. It doesnt matter what type of O you guys run, they just have a good structure of getting reps.
Personally, i like to use 5 lines on the field and line up as many guys deep as i can and go through basic footwork and progressions.
So from this set up i would do... Pass sets (vertical set or kick slide, etc) Zone steps (ISZ RT/LT) 1st step, reset, 1st step, reset, repeat. 1 2 step, reset, 1 2 step, reset, repeat. Reach steps (RT/LT) same as ISZ Pulls (RT/LT) Drop step, reset, drop step, reset, repeat. full pull, reset, etc.
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Post by realdawg on Mar 5, 2019 4:37:25 GMT -6
Lots of lines of drills going, but make sure you put the 5-10 kids you are counting on in the same couple lines so you can watch them most closely. I hate to say this, but you are not going to play 35 OL. So make sure the kids who you are counting on get reps and do the best you can with the rest.
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Post by bluboy on Mar 5, 2019 5:37:49 GMT -6
Lots of lines of drills going, but make sure you put the 5-10 kids you are counting on in the same couple lines so you can watch them most closely. I hate to say this, but you are not going to play 35 OL. So make sure the kids who you are counting on get reps and do the best you can with the rest. I do this same thing. I coach DB's and usually have a ton of them. The ones who are going to play are in the front. Everybody doing something is better than some guys standing around. The "young guys" will get better, eventually.
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Post by realdawg on Mar 5, 2019 6:22:48 GMT -6
One good thing about coaching LB whether it be ILB or OLB is that it is usually the smallest group. From year to year I probably only have somewhere between 4-6 in my LB group.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 7:17:29 GMT -6
Hopefully you can get an assistant OL coach to help you with them. Frankly, one coach to 35 kids is going to be extremely difficult. Either some kids aren't going to get as much coaching or they're all not going to get much coaching. You should prioritize your starters and 2nd string getting the most work, as they're the ones your whole team will rely on more.
Are you still Wing-T? If so, look up the old Delaware "shoulder skills" drill with your kids on a grid and incorporate as much of that as possible with them all going at the same time or with a partner. You can also work stuff like pass pro footwork and first steps this way, too. Put your starters on the front line, 2nd string on the next line, and so on as you work down the depth chart with the bottom farthest away from you.
The other thing is to break them into maybe 7 lines of 5 or 5 lines of 7. Have the first line do a rep, then go and so on and so on. This works for sled drills and stuff like that, too. When someone's absent, the guy behind him in the lines will just step up to fill in the lines in front of him.
Try to do the basic individual drills with 1-3 reps for all kids, working to each side. Then for the more intricate stuff (Trap Drill, Buck Sweep drill, etc.) focus on the top 2 groups while the others mostly "service."
Then you need to try to "steal" as much coaching time with them as you can from other drills. When the rest of the team is working STs, pull your OL who are standing around to the opposite end of the field and work on some basic stuff. When your guys are on Scout OL, coach them up on their techniques then as much as possible.
You may even want to take your JV or Frosh kids for a little extra individual period either pre-practice or post-practice and work on a very little bit of basic stuff--decide on like 3-5 plays for them to get good at and work those.
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Post by echoofthewhistle on Mar 5, 2019 10:28:14 GMT -6
1. Get an assistant to help out 2. Squares (5 x 5). Six wide and 8 or 9 deep. 3. 5 line Chute and sled drills. 4. Mixing in quick tempo, squares might be slow tempo teaching, and chutes or sled are as fast as possible, stressing the next group being ready in the chutes 5. Tape practice and review it to see things you need to focus on during the next practice.
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Post by Coach Vint on Mar 6, 2019 14:03:32 GMT -6
We used grid squares. I went 5 across and 7 rows deep, 3 yards of space between each line. It worked very well when I was coaching large OL Groups.
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Post by planck on Mar 6, 2019 14:37:24 GMT -6
Find leaders in the position group. These guys are coaching, but they should be able to crack the whip and keep the drill moving. For example, if I'm running a double team drill progression, I'll get 'pods' of groups, so we can rapid fire the drill. One pod goes (usually 2 groups of 4 OL) and I observe and give feedback. When they finish, I move to the next pod and they go. Essentially, someone is running a drill 100% of the time, and when they're not going they're getting set so I don't have to wait for them.
Also, get an assistant if you can.
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Post by center on Mar 6, 2019 14:52:51 GMT -6
Do whatever you can do to get help. You can drill kids as a large group. But for them to really improve individually you need to be able to watch them more closely as they do their drills and provide feedback.
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