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Post by tentboy on Jan 8, 2019 8:24:16 GMT -6
If there was one thing about coaching today that you can change, what would it be? Parents, school administration, expectations.....etc
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Post by coachcb on Jan 8, 2019 9:31:13 GMT -6
Honestly, I would like to change the number of distractions kids have these days when it comes to technology. It's becoming harder and harder to motivate kids when they have a gigantic world of instant gratification available to them.
This last summer, we had about a half dozen kids show up in the weight room. I'd bug the kids about getting their buddies in with them and they'd all pull out their phones and I'd hear:
"Yeah, Johnny's messing around in our Snapchat group right now." "Billy and Bobby are on Facebook Live and they're playing Fortnite."
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Post by IronmanFootball on Jan 8, 2019 9:37:53 GMT -6
The adults around kids. Street agents, bad admin, AAU/7on7 coaches, slap job football coaches, w33d dealers, bagmen, Uncle Jebediah who says the swim moves works 60% of the time every time, etc
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 14:25:45 GMT -6
The sudden influx of young inexperienced coaches with HUGE egos, i could do without that
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Post by tothehouse on Jan 8, 2019 14:51:34 GMT -6
Transfers.
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 8, 2019 14:55:20 GMT -6
CULTure bros, "blessed to receive...", pretty much anything on twitter, 7 on 7, kids and parents way too focused on recruiting, people selling other people's X and O stuff repackaged/renamed, good thing the bell just rang or I would go on a while
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Post by jamesskeeler on Jan 8, 2019 15:47:01 GMT -6
The sudden influx of young inexperienced coaches with HUGE egos, i could do without that While I totally understand you sentiment, I dont think thats changing. Sean Mcvay, lincoln riley etc (not their fault) have started a trend... Every school, team etc is going to try and find the next one because its what young kids/players are gravitating to! Also what fans want as well As far as changes I would like all levels of fball adopt the same rules... No more in HS this is a penalty but allowed in the NFL but not in college etc etc
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Post by wingtol on Jan 8, 2019 16:06:45 GMT -6
The sudden influx of young inexperienced coaches with HUGE egos, i could do without that But they have twitter....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 16:14:49 GMT -6
The sudden influx of young inexperienced coaches with HUGE egos, i could do without that While I totally understand you sentiment, I dont think thats changing. Sean Mcvay, lincoln riley etc (not their fault) have started a trend... Every school, team etc is going to try and find the next one because its what young kids/players are gravitating to! Also what fans want as well As far as changes I would like all levels of fball adopt the same rules... No more in HS this is a penalty but allowed in the NFL but not in college etc etc I shouldve been clearer i apologoze coach, i mean at the HS level..younger coaches at higher levels than me usually earned their spot. Hard to argue with their success as well I agree with the rules, 2 feet in bounds etc..agree completely
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 16:15:37 GMT -6
The sudden influx of young inexperienced coaches with HUGE egos, i could do without that But they have twitter.... God help us all
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Post by jamesskeeler on Jan 8, 2019 16:18:13 GMT -6
While I totally understand you sentiment, I dont think thats changing. Sean Mcvay, lincoln riley etc (not their fault) have started a trend... Every school, team etc is going to try and find the next one because its what young kids/players are gravitating to! Also what fans want as well As far as changes I would like all levels of fball adopt the same rules... No more in HS this is a penalty but allowed in the NFL but not in college etc etc I shouldve been clearer i apologoze coach, i mean at the HS level..younger coaches at higher levels than me usually earned their spot. Hard to argue with their success as well I agree with the rules, 2 feet in bounds etc..agree completely No need to apologize, I didn't take that way... Im just saying the trend will be of that... It will trickle down to HS as well!
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Post by fantom on Jan 8, 2019 16:24:43 GMT -6
It'd be nice to go back to the days when the district paid for clinics.
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Post by wingtol on Jan 8, 2019 16:27:08 GMT -6
But they have twitter.... God help us all And they aren't afraid to use it...
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Post by CS on Jan 8, 2019 18:41:58 GMT -6
And they aren't afraid to use it... If they are truly baller they have Snapchat. To be fair haven’t new coaches always been cocky as $hit?? I look back at what a cocky prick I was and it’s embarrassing. I didn’t have a good mentor and I found this site and realized I didn’t know much. We have a kid now that’s been at it for 2 years. Nice guy but he is a total dumba$$ with verbal diarrhea. This guy has never met a silence he couldn’t ruin. He got hired as our head freshmen coach because it was so late in the summer we had to take someone. Principal hates him. HC thinks he’s a dumbass along with everyone else. We were in the office and being dead serious he told us his plan was to move up to be a varsity coach here(not going to happen) for a few years before he takes over as HC of a state powerhouse that is currently ran by a legend in the state that a lot of you have probably heard of because he just got some award at the AFCA convention. It was phucking unbelievable
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 8, 2019 18:55:03 GMT -6
People acting like HS football is some all important moment in people's lives.
It's a freaking game. Winning or losing on a Friday night is not going to make or ruin your life.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 20:35:25 GMT -6
And they aren't afraid to use it... "Blessed"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 20:44:55 GMT -6
I shouldve been clearer i apologoze coach, i mean at the HS level..younger coaches at higher levels than me usually earned their spot. Hard to argue with their success as well I agree with the rules, 2 feet in bounds etc..agree completely No need to apologize, I didn't take that way... Im just saying the trend will be of that... It will trickle down to HS as well! Oh its there, I just got done interviewing a few, funny how many guys know how a team should be run , even with less experience than my 11 yo daughter coaching ball Humility is in very short order nowadays
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 9, 2019 8:13:08 GMT -6
People acting like HS football is some all important moment in people's lives. It's a freaking game. Winning or losing on a Friday night is not going to make or ruin your life. I was joking in the office about how all these guys who didn't play high school football just have no idea how to be "husbands and fathers"...putting diapers on backwards, mowing the lawn in a circle pattern...just didn't ever learn how it's done because they didn't play me and one other guy found it hilarious....everybody else was not amused
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Post by stilltryin on Jan 9, 2019 8:43:15 GMT -6
Parents. Schools that recruit your kids (sometimes right in the handshake line). Parents. Travel teams in every sport. Parents. Year-round specialization. Parents. Administrators who react to every phone call, and don't back their own people. Parents.
I love Gino Auriemma's line to his players: "Hey, it's not your fault you're the way you are. You were raised to be this way."
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Post by funkfriss on Jan 9, 2019 9:17:31 GMT -6
Like every problem in our society, I would change media. Television and movies that burn fantasy pictures in peoples heads that the any Joe can be All-American or that if you're not Coach Carter you're a pile of chit. Social media that has given morans a platform to spue garbage that sounds great but is nothing but blatant lies or fool's gold.
Not to mention kids today can't carry face to face conversations because they're only comfortable communicating with their thumbs.
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Post by MICoach on Jan 9, 2019 9:24:07 GMT -6
Parents not holding kids accountable, and often times being a detriment to their own willingness to be held accountable (i.e. taking kids on vacation, out of school, etc. during the season against their own will)
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Post by coachcb on Jan 9, 2019 9:47:26 GMT -6
The sudden influx of young inexperienced coaches with HUGE egos, i could do without that I agree but I don't see it changing much as a) fewer and fewer people are willing to coach and b) people with experience are leaving the profession. With that being said, I worked with a young staff this year and it was great. But, the HC was smart in his hires and he looked for coaches that had reputations as guys that were easy to work with. Honestly, it was one of the most productive seasons I've experienced in terms of meetings and game-planning. We sat down and hammered stuff out but there was always the understanding that the coordinators made the final call and any suggestion was dead as soon as they axed it.
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 9, 2019 11:15:09 GMT -6
Coaches wanting each others jobs and tearing them down behind their backs outside the coaches office, happens everywhere all the time, damn shame but the male ego is the male ego after all
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 9, 2019 11:31:52 GMT -6
also the phrase "so it's just....." like when you talk X's and O's and are explaining something and somebody says "oh it's just cover 2"
it's no mfer it isn't, if it was then we'd just call it mf'ing cover 2
I'm watching the Bama guy give a talk in Texas (of course, everybody here is vince lombardi) where he is describing their "switch" adjustment to 2 read....so a guy in the audience says "oh so it's just 2 man"....speaker says no..it's not just 2 man...... dude actually argues...."well it looks like 2 man"
dude....guy coaches secondary for saban, but you probably know what the coverage is better than him because you guys beat mumford over at the their place 28-17.....unreal
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Post by 33coach on Jan 9, 2019 11:36:47 GMT -6
The sudden influx of young inexperienced coaches with HUGE egos, i could do without that i think everyone in their first year(s) is that way. hell i sure was (and still am to some degree) my head coach likes to tell me: you dont know {censored}, and you dont know it yet.
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Post by 33coach on Jan 9, 2019 11:38:07 GMT -6
also the phrase "so it's just....." like when you talk X's and O's and are explaining something and somebody says "oh it's just cover 2" it's no mfer it isn't, if it was then we'd just call it mf'ing cover 2 I'm watching the Bama guy give a talk in Texas (of course, everybody here is vince lombardi) where he is describing their "switch" adjustment to 2 read....so a guy in the audience says "oh so it's just 2 man"....speaker says no..it's not just 2 man...... dudesactually argues...."well it looks like 2 man" dude....guy coaches secondary for saban, but you probably know what the coverage is better than him because you guys beat mumford over at the their place 28-17.....unreal i laugh in clinics when that happens: "its just like cover 3, but we have changed all the assignments and we have 4 deep....." -- uhh coach, then it aint cover 3...
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Post by nicku on Jan 9, 2019 11:45:17 GMT -6
I'm gonna duck right after I say all of this, but...the coaching culture.
I can't speak for every coach in every region of the US. But here in Texas, the amount of time that coaches sit around and "grind" and "prepare" is borderline insane. I'm sure its similar elsewhere.
I love football. I want to win. I love to win. I enjoy film, and I enjoy gameplanning. But this is a GAME. It does not matter as much as we want to think it does. And we need to start realizing it.
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Post by 33coach on Jan 9, 2019 11:51:41 GMT -6
I'm gonna duck right after I say all of this, but...the coaching culture. I can't speak for every coach in every region of the US. But here in Texas, the amount of time that coaches sit around and "grind" and "prepare" is borderline insane. I'm sure its similar elsewhere. I love football. I want to win. I love to win. I enjoy film, and I enjoy gameplanning. But this is a GAME. It does not matter as much as we want to think it does. And we need to start realizing it. if a business ran meetings like a HS staff, they would be out of business the next day. too much wasted time in the room while they applaud themselves for "grinding".
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Post by wolverine55 on Jan 9, 2019 11:52:17 GMT -6
I'm gonna duck right after I say all of this, but...the coaching culture. I can't speak for every coach in every region of the US. But here in Texas, the amount of time that coaches sit around and "grind" and "prepare" is borderline insane. I'm sure its similar elsewhere. I love football. I want to win. I love to win. I enjoy film, and I enjoy gameplanning. But this is a GAME. It does not matter as much as we want to think it does. And we need to start realizing it. To go along with this, my change would be the summer participation. I wish the summer "grind" went back to the way it was when I was in school: everyone did weights in the morning, a camp at the end of July...and that was about it. Now, before someone says, "Well, you don't have to do it then" I will say that I still enjoy it, for the most part. I just don't like feeling like the season starts June 1st.
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Post by justafbcoach on Jan 9, 2019 11:54:18 GMT -6
I'm in Florida, so I hate the transfer rule. Students basically have free reign to transfer between schools with no real penalty. It's to the point that, in my area, one school is good at football, one is good at wrestling, one is good at track, etc. So, students are trying to play Sport A at one school, then Sport B at another. It's setting kids up to fail at life when they realize high school sports isn't the end all, be all of the world.
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