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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 22:19:33 GMT -6
trackfootballconsortium.com/new-ideas-for-old-school-football-coaches/I didn't know who Tony Holler was a few days ago, but now I'm intrigued by his ideas as they relate to football practice and not just speed training. He's a very successful HS track coach who's also coached football and other sports for decades with success. The TL;DR version is that he says coaches should cut practice way back from what we normally do. Cut out "conditioning" and other old-school, non-football related activities. Admittedly, that part is hardly revolutionary, but the extent to which he takes it is through provoking. He advocates for 5-6 hours of practice a week with lots of rest, including rest between all-out reps. He says that if he were a HS football coach who wasn't worried about others' opinions, he'd give the team Thursday off and do a 3 day week Mon.-Wed. that would go full speed on Mon., a slower paced "fundamentals" and game prep practice on Tues., and then a full speed day in shirts on Wed. That's it. Personally, I like the idea of being more effective with less time, but football is still as much a game of skill as it is raw talent. I'd worry that not spending more time prepping for an opponent's offense or special teams might lead to giving up big plays that blow the game, or not spending more time throwing and catching would lead to sloppy play. Thoughts?
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Post by cwaltsmith on Nov 20, 2018 8:11:59 GMT -6
I don't agree with everything he says but its a very good article with some great points. I think too many of us do things because thats the way its always been done. I like a lot of what he says.
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Post by mrjvi on Nov 20, 2018 8:22:53 GMT -6
I followed his practice week ideas pretty much just as he described this season and the 2nd half of last season and it was good except for 1 thing. Our kids aren't as physical as they need to be. (I've been re-building at a school that hasn't won much for 10 years) That is 1 of the main areas of learning we need. I will need to include more contact-not more any 1 day but some every day. I have always had some decent contact even the day before games and physicality was never a real issue. Possibly when we get more experienced over many years of playing I'll be able to reduce contact again.
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Post by jgordon1 on Nov 20, 2018 8:25:23 GMT -6
IMO football, especially in HS, is a game of confidence, athletic ability, and the ability to teach a sound scheme. confidence come from: #1 believing...in your team, your self, your scheme #2 Jimmy's vs Joes..... nuff said develop your players #3 Teaching ability within a sound scheme
Your practice needs to reflect the above ideals. This year our team was woefully out of shape..we ran..it helped
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Post by coachcb on Nov 20, 2018 9:00:09 GMT -6
I agree with many of his points and there are things he mentions that we've already instituted such as cutting back on practice time and dropping conditioning in favor of up-tempo practices. However, his assertion that his approach will automatically lead to faster football players is flawed.
Being fast on the football field is much, much different than being fast on the track. The kids need reps at the GAME OF FOOTBALL in order to develop the knowledge and confidence to do their jobs on the field with speed. For example, if our linebackers are struggling with their reads and filling open gaps, then we need to get turns as many turns as we can at it. We need to find a way to fit in a fair amount of turns because we have other fundamentals to rep. We don't have the time to throw a group out there, rep a read drill, rest for three minutes and repeat.
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Post by jgordon1 on Nov 20, 2018 9:58:20 GMT -6
I agree with many of his points and there are things he mentions that we've already instituted such as cutting back on practice time and dropping conditioning in favor of up-tempo practices. However, his assertion that his approach will automatically lead to faster football players is flawed. Being fast on the football field is much, much different than being fast on the track. The kids need reps at the GAME OF FOOTBALL in order to develop the knowledge and confidence to do their jobs on the field with speed. For example, if our linebackers are struggling with their reads and filling open gaps, then we need to get turns as many turns as we can at it. We need to find a way to fit in a fair amount of turns because we have other fundamentals to rep. We don't have the time to throw a group out there, rep a read drill, rest for three minutes and repeat. right we actually sometimes have to have kids slow down....we practice shimmy (slowing down) every day
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Post by newhope on Nov 20, 2018 10:02:50 GMT -6
While some of what he says is worth thinking about, his whole approach turns me off. We don't practice for long periods of time, we don't condition at the end of practice, we do try to limit contact and rest their bodies, etc, etc, etc.....but his attack on coaches--much of unfounded, just some slant he has, turns me off. I wouldn't finish the article because of it. He starts by attacking the greats of the game, then goes into "always ends with conditioning", "90% are slow overachieving white guys"....and so on.
I'm sure those attacks probably fuel the crowd he's really after--and it's not the "old school" coaches. Rather, it's those who aren't. Bet he wears a visor...and shades....and uses "bro" and "culture" a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 11:06:39 GMT -6
While some of what he says is worth thinking about, his whole approach turns me off. We don't practice for long periods of time, we don't condition at the end of practice, we do try to limit contact and rest their bodies, etc, etc, etc.....but his attack on coaches--much of unfounded, just some slant he has, turns me off. I wouldn't finish the article because of it. He starts by attacking the greats of the game, then goes into "always ends with conditioning", "90% are slow overachieving white guys"....and so on. I'm sure those attacks probably fuel the crowd he's really after--and it's not the "old school" coaches. Rather, it's those who aren't. Bet he wears a visor...and shades....and uses "bro" and "culture" a lot. Those were thoughts I had, too. I think he's got some great ideas, but he also comes off as pretty condescending towards football coaches here. He's coming at this from the perspective of a track and field coach who's training sprinters to go for max effort in short bursts. There is technique involved in that, but it's nothing compared to all the different mental and physical things a football player will need to do on any one play. However, he has also coached football and other sports, including some successful HS football teams. In one of his other articles, described a HC he worked under who took his team to state as a major grinder who was into 4+ hour practices. That HC left and the new guy came in and only did the 3 days a week Holler advises... then got fired despite going 65-22 with a bunch of deep playoff runs and a state championship game of his own.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 11:22:51 GMT -6
I agree with many of his points and there are things he mentions that we've already instituted such as cutting back on practice time and dropping conditioning in favor of up-tempo practices. However, his assertion that his approach will automatically lead to faster football players is flawed. Being fast on the football field is much, much different than being fast on the track. The kids need reps at the GAME OF FOOTBALL in order to develop the knowledge and confidence to do their jobs on the field with speed. For example, if our linebackers are struggling with their reads and filling open gaps, then we need to get turns as many turns as we can at it. We need to find a way to fit in a fair amount of turns because we have other fundamentals to rep. We don't have the time to throw a group out there, rep a read drill, rest for three minutes and repeat. That assertion about this approach=faster athletes across the board=more success seems very fundamentally flawed to me, too. He's not even a fan of up-tempo practices. From reading this and his follow-up article, I'm not sure what exactly he wants a football practice to look like. He spends a lot of time shooting down strawmen about "grinding." He says there should be 1 day a week of all out, intense full speed effort with a "choppy" tempo that reflects the rests between plays in a game and it should be early in the week to give players adequate rest and recovery by gametime. That part makes perfect sense to me. He says to do things at "game speed" in shirts for a very short practice a day or two before games so players have gas in the tank and are rested for Fridays, I can get behind that, too. Then he says you should have 1-2 days a week of sub-full speed effort to work on fundamentals, scheme, and special teams. That's where I scratch my head. How do you teach those things adequately if everyone's just jogging, walking, or standing around and talking? Most "new school" ideology has been about trying to cut those things down as much as possible. Even Chip Kelly, the man that Holler cites as an example of new and improved football practice methodology, is known for keeping his practices moving very briskly without ever slowing down.
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Post by coachcb on Nov 20, 2018 11:41:19 GMT -6
I agree with many of his points and there are things he mentions that we've already instituted such as cutting back on practice time and dropping conditioning in favor of up-tempo practices. However, his assertion that his approach will automatically lead to faster football players is flawed. Being fast on the football field is much, much different than being fast on the track. The kids need reps at the GAME OF FOOTBALL in order to develop the knowledge and confidence to do their jobs on the field with speed. For example, if our linebackers are struggling with their reads and filling open gaps, then we need to get turns as many turns as we can at it. We need to find a way to fit in a fair amount of turns because we have other fundamentals to rep. We don't have the time to throw a group out there, rep a read drill, rest for three minutes and repeat. That assertion about this approach=faster athletes across the board=more success seems very fundamentally flawed to me, too. He's not even a fan of up-tempo practices. From reading this and his follow-up article, I'm not sure what exactly he wants a football practice to look like. He spends a lot of time shooting down strawmen about "grinding." He says there should be 1 day a week of all out, intense full speed effort with a "choppy" tempo that reflects the rests between plays in a game and it should be early in the week to give players adequate rest and recovery by gametime. That part makes perfect sense to me. He says to do things at "game speed" in shirts for a very short practice a day or two before games so players have gas in the tank and are rested for Fridays, I can get behind that, too. Then he says you should have 1-2 days a week of sub-full speed effort to work on fundamentals, scheme, and special teams. That's where I scratch my head. How do you teach those things adequately if everyone's just jogging, walking, or standing around and talking? Most "new school" ideology has been about trying to cut those things down as much as possible. Even Chip Kelly, the man that Holler cites as an example of new and improved football practice methodology, is known for keeping his practices moving very briskly without ever slowing down. I'm a track coach as well (throws) so I see the correlation he is trying to make: optimize performance on a physiological level. But, that particular coaching model applies to track and field events; not team sports. There is a huge disconnect as he's applying that ONE physiological variable to the entire week of practice without considering everything else that goes along with playing a team sport. He's basically viewing every down in football as simple footrace and not a complex series of decisions, reactions, and movements.
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Post by CS on Nov 20, 2018 11:48:36 GMT -6
I think despite what his actual words are it’s the message that needs to be taken from it. Don’t beat the $hit out of your players.
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Post by mrjvi on Nov 20, 2018 12:03:24 GMT -6
I am also a track coach (Throws and sprinters) and I agree with an above post that track sprinters and FB players are somewhat different animals. Much of the speed work for sprinters can relate when you want to increase FB players speed but there are other things FB players need as well. I have always maintained that there are 2 areas of conditioning in football, physical exertion done repeatedly and collision conditioning-being able to deal with repeated contact and recover from it. Track does not need collision conditioning.
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Post by knightfan64 on Nov 20, 2018 13:11:47 GMT -6
I have a theory that 90% of all coaches are slow over-achieving white guys who busted their ass. The mediocre results these guys got from their hard work fueled their interest in coaching.
That was the quote that got my attention in the article.....sort of screamed what football coaches are to me, and I fall into that criteria too.
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Post by spreadjet31 on Nov 20, 2018 15:01:57 GMT -6
trackfootballconsortium.com/new-ideas-for-old-school-football-coaches/I didn't know who Tony Holler was a few days ago, but now I'm intrigued by his ideas as they relate to football practice and not just speed training. He's a very successful HS track coach who's also coached football and other sports for decades with success. The TL;DR version is that he says coaches should cut practice way back from what we normally do. Cut out "conditioning" and other old-school, non-football related activities. Admittedly, that part is hardly revolutionary, but the extent to which he takes it is through provoking. He advocates for 5-6 hours of practice a week with lots of rest, including rest between all-out reps. He says that if he were a HS football coach who wasn't worried about others' opinions, he'd give the team Thursday off and do a 3 day week Mon.-Wed. that would go full speed on Mon., a slower paced "fundamentals" and game prep practice on Tues., and then a full speed day in shirts on Wed. That's it. Personally, I like the idea of being more effective with less time, but football is still as much a game of skill as it is raw talent. I'd worry that not spending more time prepping for an opponent's offense or special teams might lead to giving up big plays that blow the game, or not spending more time throwing and catching would lead to sloppy play. Thoughts? he doesn't believe in what he writes. Curious as to how you came to this conclusion.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 15:35:05 GMT -6
I followed his practice week ideas pretty much just as he described this season and the 2nd half of last season and it was good except for 1 thing. Our kids aren't as physical as they need to be. (I've been re-building at a school that hasn't won much for 10 years) That is 1 of the main areas of learning we need. I will need to include more contact-not more any 1 day but some every day. I have always had some decent contact even the day before games and physicality was never a real issue. Possibly when we get more experienced over many years of playing I'll be able to reduce contact again. Here's the followup article: trackfootballconsortium.com/football-dosage-and-approach-questions-and-answers/In that article, he discusses how Kentucky tried something similar under Stoops back in 2014 and 2015. Kentucky would get off to good starts to the season, including 5-1 in 2014, but then went 5-7 and weren't physical down the stretch of the season. Stoops went to a more old school practice and wound up 7-5. He tries to address worries about these things in the second article, but he never really does beyond simply dismissing them out of hand and saying that more grueling workouts aren't really better, but players are more confident because of them so they play better (which, it would seem to me... actually shows that the more old school approach is better). The one piece of actual evidence he sites (Kentucky) seems to prove the opposite of what he's trying to sell.
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Post by CS on Nov 20, 2018 16:33:22 GMT -6
I followed his practice week ideas pretty much just as he described this season and the 2nd half of last season and it was good except for 1 thing. Our kids aren't as physical as they need to be. (I've been re-building at a school that hasn't won much for 10 years) That is 1 of the main areas of learning we need. I will need to include more contact-not more any 1 day but some every day. I have always had some decent contact even the day before games and physicality was never a real issue. Possibly when we get more experienced over many years of playing I'll be able to reduce contact again. Here's the followup article: trackfootballconsortium.com/football-dosage-and-approach-questions-and-answers/In that article, he discusses how Kentucky tried something similar under Stoops back in 2014 and 2015. Kentucky would get off to good starts to the season, including 5-1 in 2014, but then went 5-7 and weren't physical down the stretch of the season. Stoops went to a more old school practice and wound up 7-5. He tries to address worries about these things in the second article, but he never really does beyond simply dismissing them out of hand and saying that more grueling workouts aren't really better, but players are more confident because of them so they play better (which, it would seem to me... actually shows that the more old school approach is better). The one piece of actual evidence he sites (Kentucky) seems to prove the opposite of what he's trying to sell. He didn’t say that the kids got more confident because of grueling workouts he said that the coaches sell the “grind” to kids well. Just about everything he says I agree with in the article. I would hit like normal but a 2 hour practice in the summer with some teaching in the classroom sounds good. High tempo practices that don’t ruin the next days practice is good. Not beating on your players all season. All of these things are discussed on this site as best practice a lot There are a few coaches on twitter that follow Hollers principles on practice as well. One is playing for a state title this week
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 17:06:12 GMT -6
He didn’t say that the kids got more confident because of grueling workouts he said that the coaches sell the “grind” to kids well. Just about everything he says I agree with in the article. I would hit like normal but a 2 hour practice in the summer with some teaching in the classroom sounds good. High tempo practices that don’t ruin the next days practice is good. Not beating on your players all season. All of these things are discussed on this site as best practice a lot I'm not disagreeing with the idea that you should be efficient and not beat your players up or work them to death without recovery. "Grueling" workouts were a poor choice of words on my part: I should have said "traditional." I once played under a coach who was a fan of 4 hour, full contact practices all week, including Thursdays. That left us beat up and exhausted when game time started. You don't have to convince me that's a bad idea. But the point is that a "speed-based" practice plan he advocates is really a radical departure from the "skills based" practice plans that are discussed on here, though. In another thread, coaches said the best thing they did this year was treat Thursday as a normal, full padded practice day. To him, that's a huge mistake. The idea that you only work on scheme once a week and only let players run full speed once a week on a different day... those are unconventional and provocative, though he doesn't provide much support to back them up besides drawing on his experience as a coach of track athletes.
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Post by carookie on Nov 20, 2018 17:41:42 GMT -6
While some of what he says is worth thinking about, his whole approach turns me off. We don't practice for long periods of time, we don't condition at the end of practice, we do try to limit contact and rest their bodies, etc, etc, etc.....but his attack on coaches--much of unfounded, just some slant he has, turns me off. I wouldn't finish the article because of it. He starts by attacking the greats of the game, then goes into "always ends with conditioning", "90% are slow overachieving white guys"....and so on. I'm sure those attacks probably fuel the crowd he's really after--and it's not the "old school" coaches. Rather, it's those who aren't. Bet he wears a visor...and shades....and uses "bro" and "culture" a lot. Someone posted this on here awhile back and I had the exact same sentiment. Once again someone is buying into the belief that all coaches do are draw up plays, run team, and bark at players for more up downs. Its as if he is making an argument towards a bunch of HS coaches in the mid 80s; whats next an op-ed piece about foul language in popular music? A call for better relations with the Soviet Union?
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Post by CS on Nov 20, 2018 18:35:43 GMT -6
He didn’t say that the kids got more confident because of grueling workouts he said that the coaches sell the “grind” to kids well. Just about everything he says I agree with in the article. I would hit like normal but a 2 hour practice in the summer with some teaching in the classroom sounds good. High tempo practices that don’t ruin the next days practice is good. Not beating on your players all season. All of these things are discussed on this site as best practice a lot I'm not disagreeing with the idea that you should be efficient and not beat your players up or work them to death without recovery. "Grueling" workouts were a poor choice of words on my part: I should have said "traditional." I once played under a coach who was a fan of 4 hour, full contact practices all week, including Thursdays. That left us beat up and exhausted when game time started. You don't have to convince me that's a bad idea. But the point is that a "speed-based" practice plan he advocates is really a radical departure from the "skills based" practice plans that are discussed on here, though. In another thread, coaches said the best thing they did this year was treat Thursday as a normal, full padded practice day. To him, that's a huge mistake. The idea that you only work on scheme once a week and only let players run full speed once a week on a different day... those are unconventional and provocative, though he doesn't provide much support to back them up besides drawing on his experience as a coach of track athletes. I didn’t see the part where he said only work on scheme one day a week. I have read both articles and I guess I missed it. The way I read it is that you have a hard day. The next day should be lighter for recovery. So I have a harder more contact more running practice on Monday and Wednesday and lighter more thought and skill on Tuesday and Thursday
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 19:38:01 GMT -6
Did the 3 day practice week this year. Also ran team vs handshields all year long. We were 3 and 7 last year, finished 10 and 2 this year. I am a believer in this philosophy.
Granted, we didn't do the days like laid out in the article, and we frontloaded our conditioning (6 7 second sprints, 53 seconds of rest after each one).
There are many other factors at play here, but we also had zero games missed due to injury. The kids were fresh the entire season.
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Post by 60zgo on Nov 20, 2018 21:24:12 GMT -6
I would encourage anyone to attend his Track Football Consortium. Go with an open mind. I have coached Football AND track for 18 years. Holler is a great guy. But if you know anything about track he associates with a ton of outlier type guys. People who are into neural theory and PhD types. If you go to one of his clinics you will be listening to a Westside Barbell guy and then an hour later listening to some PhD candidate telling you how dumb you are because you don't understand the krebs cyle as it relates to football workouts.
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Post by klaby on Nov 21, 2018 13:53:29 GMT -6
I personally liked the comment about practice being like boot camp...clearly he has never been to Marine Corps Boot Camp...just sayin...only those that have never been make that ridiculous comparison..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 17:33:47 GMT -6
I didn’t see the part where he said only work on scheme one day a week. I have read both articles and I guess I missed it. The way I read it is that you have a hard day. The next day should be lighter for recovery. So I have a harder more contact more running practice on Monday and Wednesday and lighter more thought and skill on Tuesday and Thursday It was in the first article, where he outlines his ideal week of practice. "Game-Prep Wednesday – 90 minutes of practice that football coaches love the most … the chess game. 75% of a football coach’s attention seems to be focused on the next opponent. The hours and hours of watching film (old school term of course) pollutes the brain and creates a near-psychotic obsession with the other team’s formations, tendencies, schemes, etc. My weekly plan forces football coaches to focus inward until Wednesday. Defensive recognition, review, and special teams can be addressed in this one practice session. No sprinting. No conditioning. Do nothing on Wednesday that will interfere with “Super-Speed Thursday”. Weight room following practice should be effective minimum dose upper-body work. Wednesday is a recovery day." His 4 day play was to work fundamentals without running full speed on Mon., run full speed and work fundamentals again on Tues., then coach scheme and special teams on Wed. before doing a short, low-volume walkthrough on Thursday. His ideal 3 day play condenses the "Fundamental Monday" and "Game Prep Wednesday" into one day: Tuesday. You'd run wide open Monday, do that stuff on Tuesday, do a quick 1 hour walkthrough in shirts on Wed., and then take Thursday off.I guess I'm mostly confused about how much "dosage" of wide open running he's trying to tell us we should do on the non-full speed days. I thought he meant zero at first. He says to only run all out, full speed 1 day a week in practice, but then he says to do a quick walkthrough in shirts where players run at "game speed" but only for a very quick practice so they can recover by Friday.
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Post by 60zgo on Nov 21, 2018 18:13:28 GMT -6
I didn’t see the part where he said only work on scheme one day a week. I have read both articles and I guess I missed it. The way I read it is that you have a hard day. The next day should be lighter for recovery. So I have a harder more contact more running practice on Monday and Wednesday and lighter more thought and skill on Tuesday and Thursday It was in the first article, where he outlines his ideal week of practice. "Game-Prep Wednesday – 90 minutes of practice that football coaches love the most … the chess game. 75% of a football coach’s attention seems to be focused on the next opponent. The hours and hours of watching film (old school term of course) pollutes the brain and creates a near-psychotic obsession with the other team’s formations, tendencies, schemes, etc. My weekly plan forces football coaches to focus inward until Wednesday. Defensive recognition, review, and special teams can be addressed in this one practice session. No sprinting. No conditioning. Do nothing on Wednesday that will interfere with “Super-Speed Thursday”. Weight room following practice should be effective minimum dose upper-body work. Wednesday is a recovery day." His 4 day play was to work fundamentals without running full speed on Mon., run full speed and work fundamentals again on Tues., then coach scheme and special teams on Wed. before doing a short, low-volume walkthrough on Thursday. His ideal 3 day play condenses the "Fundamental Monday" and "Game Prep Wednesday" into one day: Tuesday. You'd run wide open Monday, do that stuff on Tuesday, do a quick 1 hour walkthrough in shirts on Wed., and then take Thursday off.I guess I'm mostly confused about how much "dosage" of wide open running he's trying to tell us we should do on the non-full speed days. I thought he meant zero at first. He says to only run all out, full speed 1 day a week in practice, but then he says to do a quick walkthrough in shirts where players run at "game speed" but only for a very quick practice so they can recover by Friday. Holler would suggest the minimum effective dose... Some of his track workouts consist of 3 x 40 with complete rest for kids running 200m+... That's where the whole choppy practice comes in. You might have the first team run a pass play and the WR might 4-5 plays off. Then another play. Then another 4-5 plays off.
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Post by bobgoodman on Nov 21, 2018 20:21:08 GMT -6
The TL;DR version is that he says coaches should cut practice way back from what we normally do. Cut out "conditioning" and other old-school, non-football related activities. In-season conditioning is a waste. You can't do enough of it to be effective during the time you need it. For me it's even more of a waste, because I coach children, and endurance never makes a difference in their games. When they say they're tired, they really mean they're bored, afraid, or have performance anxiety. Most in-season agility drills are a similar waste, because again, you can't do it enough to be effective during the time you need it. Work on the particular moves you need instead.
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Post by Davs on Nov 21, 2018 23:29:35 GMT -6
While some of what he says is worth thinking about, his whole approach turns me off. We don't practice for long periods of time, we don't condition at the end of practice, we do try to limit contact and rest their bodies, etc, etc, etc.....but his attack on coaches--much of unfounded, just some slant he has, turns me off. I wouldn't finish the article because of it. He starts by attacking the greats of the game, then goes into "always ends with conditioning", "90% are slow overachieving white guys"....and so on. I'm sure those attacks probably fuel the crowd he's really after--and it's not the "old school" coaches. Rather, it's those who aren't. Bet he wears a visor...and shades....and uses "bro" and "culture" a lot. Actually he doesn't wear a visor or shades, and is one of the nicest people I ever had the chance of talking to. He allowed me to chew his ear at his speed camp for 2 weeks this past summer and was incredibly helpful. Just so you know the first time I read his stuff I wanted to fight the man. It went against everything I was brought up on. I am a former powerlifter meathead. This meathead read his stuff again, and realized he was on to something.
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Post by Davs on Nov 21, 2018 23:39:00 GMT -6
I would encourage anyone to attend his Track Football Consortium. Go with an open mind. I have coached Football AND track for 18 years. Holler is a great guy. But if you know anything about track he associates with a ton of outlier type guys. People who are into neural theory and PhD types. If you go to one of his clinics you will be listening to a Westside Barbell guy and then an hour later listening to some PhD candidate telling you how dumb you are because you don't understand the krebs cyle as it relates to football workouts. And I have my ticket to TFC 8. I am also eager to get my RPR level 2 training. Soon I hope.
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Post by mholst40 on Nov 22, 2018 0:42:23 GMT -6
I can buy into some of his principles because I like different and the norm isn’t always correct.
But, how does this apply in the real world? How does he know this works?
The assumption is that a fast, fresh team should win if talent is equal. The next question becomes: Does speed matter more than anything else in football?
How did he determine optimal time, reps, etc? Shouldn’t these teams be less injured and win a lot of games consistently?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2018 1:14:01 GMT -6
So... my question for 60zgo and Davs, since you follow his advice, is a simple one: How do you figure "minimum effective dose with rest between reps" and put that into practice effectively enough to still adequately teach football-specific skills at a high level? For example, if a receiver is resting 4-5 plays in practice for every route he runs at full speed, and you only run 20 plays in team period, then he's only going to get 3-5 reps in a 10 minute period. When you've pared the playbook down as much as possible, but you're a passing team with 6 core concepts to rep, aren't those football specific skills and the nuances going to erode or never even develop? I'm all for taking as much of the grind out of practice as possible, including doing as little contact and unnecessary running as possible to keep guys fresh and healthy. My big concern is "what defines a 'minimum effective dose?'" and "how much of a tradeoff between skill development and explosiveness in games is there?"
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Post by Victor on Nov 22, 2018 5:38:12 GMT -6
I guess it should be done at the off season. It looks it is for college or big high school programs. Too much things to control
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